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QUOTE(Goldmember @ Feb 11, 2006 -> 11:59 AM) http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stor...ED?OpenDocument (wtf?) was of course added by me. why in the hell would you write that in the story? It is suppose to humanize the story, help the reader to make a connection. For lack of a better word or phrase, this is a human interest story as much as a crime story and one thing the reporter should do is make than connection. This was not a good example, I think the reporter fumbled, but that's the reason. It's the difference between reading the police report and reading a newspaper account.

QUOTE(SnB @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 04:25 PM) I had to go see a play.........f***, not just a play, a musical. So i know what you're feeling. Barry Manilow.lawn seats.Popular Creek

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 01:09 PM) I still think the first response shoulds be at the local and state level. They have resources in place to do the job. You know, like all those parked school buses. How about command and control from the feds, sending state and local resources? I know that has problems but it would avoid a switch in command and control later when the s*** is really hitting the fan. It avoids turf battles, maybe.

That must have been scary for you, ankle twisted in bed sheets and you all alone I got wedged into a car once. I couldn't figure out how my knee wound up where it did. I couldn't lift it straight up and I couldn't figure out how to move much forward or back. LMAO for 5 minutes.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 12:39 PM) Bunch of lemmings. They know they are getting conned and ripped off to see an, at best, mediocre product and they still keep going. It reminds of the old movie "The Time Machine" when the sirens would go off and the people of the future would walk zombie-like to their deaths. Sox fans get pissed, and they let them know at the box office. Cub fans are idiots, I think that is by definition. But we should consider this Sox fans stay away when the product sucks True Sox fans support the team through thick and then Bandwagon jumpers only show up when the team is winning I am so confused

I guess he didn't like the rebates?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) Man am I stupid. Your point was still valid. If these levees were in Bagdad, we'd probably already have Haliburton fixing them after we'd bombed the hell out of them. I do have an American me first mentality with this rebuilding. IMHO if we need to bomb someone, we needed to bomb them, we should not be paying to rebuild it, especially with all the damn oil money they have. Spend that money fixing stuff at home first. BTW, does that make me a conservative?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 11:12 AM) First of all...I don't think I've seen any estimate which says that making the NO Levees structurally sound enough to take the surge from a Cat 5 would have cost $67 billion. A couple billion yes, but not that number. Sorry, I should have been clearer, It's 67 million and that was a guess on mobilizing resources to get people out of harms way, secure the city, etc.

I am sittng here wondering how much time and money should have been spent on the possibility that NO would take a direct hit, and the levees would break, and this and that. While we have an unlimted budget to destroy and rebuild Iraq, we don't have an unlimited budget to mobilize thousands of people and tons of equipment on a worse case scenario. All that has to be balanced in the response. Can you imagine the headlines $67,000,000 spent on diaster that never came. What a waste of our tax dollars.

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 09:06 AM) Disecting is great! Pointing fingers and accusing people of racism is not! FEMA was overwelmed. Something this big had never happened before. I don't fault them for be overwelmed. I agree that the racism stuff isn't useful, unless there was some proof, which there is none that I have seen. But there are two ways to discect and investigate 1. Independent 2. Let each agency investigate their own. One leads to finger pointing, option two leads to a watered down it's not my fault response. I'm not certain which is better, but I'd rather some finger pointing happen then a buddy buddy I'll cover your ass, you cover mine mentality.

How about just cuddle day . . . ?

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 08:39 AM) LOL, Im just waiting for one of Juggs patented "I talked to a Japanese father the other day, and we decided that Japanese culture is taking over..." discussions. The Mile High Club seems like a leftist nut-job thing to do, lol. I'm betting when he was in school and was told to write a 500 word essay, he was told that his had to be less than 500. Teacher A "What are you doing for spring break?" Teacher B "Reading essays" "That should take, what about a day?" "Nope all week, I have Juggs in my class"

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 08:13 AM) I guess that's what I don't get. OK, The Feds made a mistake. That's a suprise? But, do people honestly believe there was malice intended? I think humans being humans, if this was Washington getting hit, there would have been a better response. Another silly analogy, if Wrigley was in danger of flooding and needing to be sandbagged, how fast would you get there? If it was the Cell, how fast? If it was a major military center like San Diego, or perhaps a Texas city like Houston, the response may have been quicker and better. But no, I don't think it was intentional. I don't think anyone in the Federal government cared if the city was black, white, red, or blue. If anything I'll bet there was a HOLY f***ING s*** I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING WHAT THE f*** CAN WE DO and like those minutes between getting hit in the gut and not being able to breath, not much happens. How surreal is it knowing the extent of this disaster and trying to think of the millions things to do. Where do you start? Could we have done better, yes. And the #1 thing I know about Americans we will discect this for years and better procedures will come out and, I pry this never happens again, but if it does, the response will be much better.

YAS, isn't it nice to know, if we ever meet in person at least we won't argue about music

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 07:08 AM) .........and I'm sure there was more than 1 restroom on the plane. I was in a training class with an ex-flight attendant who did the Japan route. Seems that in Japanese culture it is important to die in your homeland. Sometimes their timing is off by just a little bit. In two years she experienced 5 people dying on the flights. Couple of rules they had: If you can move the corpse, do so. Lock them in a lav and place in out of order sign. If you can't move them, cover them and hope it's a family members sitting next to them, or it isn't a sold out flight and you can move the passengers. Fligths were not diverted if they were dead. Also, she claims it is against that airlines rules to break up mile high club encounters.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 06:43 AM) The governor of LA would have thrown at good old fashioned tantrum if Bush would have tried to muscle in on her turf. Once she found that she was incapable of handling things, then they started screaming "Where are the Feds?" Couple of thoughts Mr. YAS You are correct, she would most likely have thrown a hissy fit. And Bush calmly says, we knew this was serious and would require Federal Assistance. This is a National disaster, one of the US's vital cities has been struck with a serious weather disaster. We knew the correct thing to do was to get relief there, and as much as we could muster, and the great residence of New Orleans would not care if it carried a state of federal label. Frankly, I am shocked the Governor of LA would be upset at having the resources of every American coming to her aid. Game.Set.Match for the Texan. There is some hindsight in all this, but once the President grabs a bullhorn and a spot light, she would have been toast. And just like I have cut Dubya slack for not being personally responsible for the Federal response, I don't believe she should carry all the blame. But for those that blame Bush, I believe the Governor should carry the same responsibility as head of the organization.

Section 1. No Time - Guess Who vs. White Room - Cream While My Guitar Gently Weeps - The Beatles vs. Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynard vs. Strawberry Field Forever - The Beatles Ticket to Ride - The Beatles vs. Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan The Boys Are Back In Town - Thin Lizzy vs. Sympathy for the Devil - The Rolling Stones A Day in the Life - The Beatles vs. All Along the Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix Section 2. Surrender - Cheap Trick vs. When the Levee Breaks- Led Zeppelin Dream On - Aerosmith vs. Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen Street Fighting Man - The Rolling Stones vs. Thunderstruck - AC/DC Stay With Me - The Faces vs. Pinball Wizard - The Who Crazy Train - Ozzy Osborne vs. Baba O'Reilly - The Who I don't know how others are voting, but I was basing this on "classic rock" not favorite song. I would have switched in some cases, Free Bird seems classic to the point of being a parody of itself, SFF is my fav in that group.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:00 AM) You speculate this. I'll speculate that. You speculate a response, then I'll do likewise. People. Nobody here KNOWS a damn thing about what was or was not there and what our, and others, intellingence reports were saying. Saddam was a brutal dictator that was playing hardball with UN inspections and he was shooting at US planes assigned to enforce UN sanctions. He was giving the impression that he had WMD's. These things are facts. All this speculation is meaningless and petty. We do know, Bush and Powel told us. Remember the addresses to the UN? That is what they told the world to gather support for an invasion, most of the world said they were wrong, we invaded, then talked about Saddam being evil when none were found. Are you saying we can't believe what our government tells us? This just in http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...&referrer=email

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 8, 2006 -> 02:25 PM) There's been a lot of speculation since before we went in that they moved the stuff to Syria. But that can't be true, because Bush has to pay for the WMD's not being there like the liberals knew all along. Damn those liberals for disagreeing. Thank God that conservative STFU when a Democrat was in the White House. No criticism there BTW over 2,000 Americans dead >>>>>>> a b.j. to express concern and protest about. And remember after they didn't find any, the official WH spin is a regime change was necessary to protect the Iraqi people. WMD was not the primary reason. It is tough to keep up with party spin. I don't have an answer to this but, how many American lives and money to we invest to save a life of a foreign national? Have 10 soldiers die to save one? Do we go trillions in debt, possibly bankrupting this country, to save another? What is the limit to our generosity?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 01:44 AM) \ Second, the first response is the responsibility of the state, not the Feds. Not specific to this, but isn't it the ultimate responsibility to the Feds and the WH to assure the emergency response was happening, no matter from who? We created FEMA for a reason. What is really sad is people's opinions of what the Feds and especially the White House whould have done seem t hinge on wether or not you voted for the current imhabitants.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 10:52 PM) Yeah, but he f***ed up everyone else's flight plans. WHich seems kind of dumb, why not just fly on to your destination? It's not like he's going to know the difference.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 05:59 PM) It's a little tough being from Iowa True, very true . . .

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 9, 2006 -> 07:15 PM) The cool thing about women in the South is they LOVE football. Super Bowl Sunday includes women. Hell, every Saturday from late August to January, includes women. Friday Night Texas High School Football is a big date and family night. They love NASCAR also Southern belles

Aerosmith was a great concert, The Dead was a great weekend.

Nice touch. If someone is going to kill themselves, I like someone that doesn't make a huge mess, and is unusual about it. Don't just slit the wrists in the bath tub, hanging in an airplane lav, that's cool. Too bad, I bet he had a great sense of humor.