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QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) No sense in living in the past...? I agree it's all bulls*** and they are all cream of the crop bulls*** dishers.. but 2 wrongs don't make a right Kap. In order to make changes to make the future better we have to correct things as they happen. No? The fastest change will happen when Dems stop making excuses for "their people" and the GOP stops making excuses for "their people".

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 08:36 AM) Yeah, I know. Theres some people out there who would whine to the press about a White House conspirasy if they slipped on a bananna peel in their own kitchen. And some would complain when a White House conspiracy was found, that it was a liberal biased media conspiracy . . .

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 07:02 AM) Could you please point out where in the Texas hunting code it saids that you have to report hunting accidents to the press, and how long is proper to wait for a news confrence afterwards? The government is under no obligation to report this. That is true. If that is how you believe the government should operate, in secrecy, that is certainly a valid method. In the US we have a long history of not allowing the government to hide stuff and operate in secrecy. I don't think it would be a step forward when the Veep can shoot someone and be able to hide that information. I also believe it would be state law to report a shooting, but I may be wrong. Maybe the victim has to report the shooting. Is a hunting accident less of a story than a blow job? Than a petty breaking and entering at an office (Watergate). An accident is not much of a story, a drunk VP shooting someone is a story. How will the American public know the difference? We could just accept the White House explaination, and for many that is reasonable. But of course that would be the GOP fans. Same as the Dem fans felt a blow job was a non story. But so far Clinton brought up? check Vince Foster? check Al Gore? check media blamed? check Sounds like a GOP victory. Who needs a free press when you have news releases from the government?

Just so no Sosa, retire and hide.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 08:42 PM) The point is any soundbite you use when you talk like this on foreign soil especially will go straight to recruting people to come and kill US. But apparently, it's ok, and he gets a pass. WTF ever. You are worried about recruiting people to come to the US to kill us? Ahhh, isn't taking over Iraq a better recruiting tool? Kap, they can make s*** up and attach Bush's name, Gore's name, your name, my name. This is a non issue for recruiting people to come kill us.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) My biggest complaint with Gore's speech is not what he said, but where he said it. If he wants to give a speech here in the U.S. to spur policy changes, that's one thing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 02:44 AM) What about notification of the lawyers family? Shouldn't that be taken into consideration when determining when to go to the press with something like this? Absolutely YAS. BREAKING NEWS . . . the White House is reporting that VP Dick Chaney accidentaly shot an unidentified guest at the blah blah blah. The guest is being attended to . . . identification of the accident victim is pending notification of relatives. Happens all the time and I am certain Chaney's people knew how to word the release. Which would have been better: Notification via press release in an hour and Chaney appears before the American public, shaken and apologetic ~or~ Notification almost a day later? One of our great freedoms is we have literally thousands of eyes, via a free press, that keeps their eyes on our government, and has the freedom and protection to report on almost everything. Nixon "I am not a crook" Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that. Boris and Natashia "well that clears that up. we'll STFU" Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that Boris and Natashia "well that clears that up, we'll STFU Vince Foster sadly died of an apparent suicide Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that Boris and Natashia "how about a vodka and cavier?" Vice President Dick Chaney accidentaly shot a guest Bob and Carl ~ we'll see about that Boris and Natashia "well no story here, we'll STFU They may not be perfect, no human is, but it keeps us free.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 16, 2006 -> 03:04 AM) She's about as far from center as Michael Moore. And just as relevant. I have about the same respect for both of them. They are Howard Stern without the talent. Seriously, if the address change didn't result in her voting in an election she wasn't entitled to, I don't think it's that big of a deal and it certainly doesn't seem like voter fraud was her intent. Now if for some bizarre reason, and I can't think of one, there are a hundred voters registered at that address, I'd be interested, but this is just kind of sad when someone thinks they have to hide from the government.

Happy Birthday!!

A top level government official shoots someone and the press shouldn't report anything other than the official government account. The public is expected to accept without questioning the official government account. Does that happen in the United States Russia Saudi Arabia All I am saying is this should be a non story. Dick Chaney should have appeared as soon as possible after the accident, explained the terrible mistake, offered to take a drug and alchohol test and been forthright. When they try and hide it, it looks like they have something to hide. And yes, there is some predictible behavior here. Some liberals want the whole story, enjoy the jokes, and are critical of the long delays. Some conservatives will blame the media, and defend anything their guy does. In my lifetime, it's the first time a Veep has shot someone, maybe that isn't newsworthy to y'all, but it sure is interesting to me. And it is uncommon, but understandable. I believe it happens a lot more than the 2.7%, but most time the range is further and it doesn't draw blood.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 05:03 AM) Terrell Owens is football's version of Sammy Sosa. Sammy Sosa needed to illegally enhance his physical tools TO needs to enhance his personality and attitude Other than that, they are both tools, you are correct. Shall we start an all-idiots team thread?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 01:12 AM) Just in case you are forgetting, this was damn hunting accident. This s*** happens all over the country all the time. f***ing Al Gore was in Saudi Arabia batmouthing the US for abusive treatment of Arabs and this damn Cheney s*** is all the media can think about. Let's let an ex-vp go overseas and inflame even more Arabs against America and Americans so they'll run to Iraq and join the insugency, with minscule press coverage. But let Cheney have an accident and the f***ing media is swarming like vultures. There's an example disgusting for you. LMAO still. In case you forgot the other was a damn blow job between two adults. That s***s happens even more frequently, and it turned out to be the most expensive in history. Would you have so quicky accepted the hunting accident explaination if it was Ted Kennedy? John Kerry? Al Gore? But the American public should just accept the hunting accident story. Because the government never lies So that's the new rule, we always accept the WH story when someone gets shot What is amazing is if the lawyer had given Chaney a blow job instead of getting shot, that's news and a special prosecutor would be assigned. Gotta love conservatives, they will defend anything their party does, just like Cub fans.

LMAO. Let's look at two events Bill Clinton accepts a blow job, and we invest hundreds of millions of dollars and a special prosecutor, and hold impeachment proceedings. Vince Fosters name comes up. The Veep shoots a man, and the press should STFU No need to investigate, trust the government on this one. Nothing here, look the other way. Nothing serious. gotta love us Americans.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) They publish for editors, a paycheck, and their egos. Sure, there may be well intentioned press members who genuinely care about upholding constitutional rights, but not many. It's a highly competitive business. For that, I believe their own intentions are looked out for over any of their audience. If you can't do the job, someone will simply come in and take it right under you. Eventually someone has to read, view, or listen to the information. Money has to exchange hands. So what happens after the politicians complete their destruction of a free press? What happens when we only listen to commentators like Rush or Frankin?

Hell, I've left this place at least 10 times in the past couple years, all without much of a post.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 07:05 PM) That's a very good point. Occassionaly, you have those. No, occassionaly, you understand one

By the way, who does the press publish for? Each other or the public? When someone sends f*** you to the press, they are saying f*** you to their readers and viewers, which I believe is everyone here. So we could have a situation where the Demheads say STFU about Monica and the GOPerheads say STFU about the Veep in an accidental shooting. When we allow the STFUs to continue, we voluntarily give away one of our freedoms, that of an open and free press.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 07:08 PM) I hate to do this, because now I'm switching the topic back to Clinton. *sigh* - but it's an easy target. What about the whole Vince Foster mess? How long was it before that story broke? What about Monica? The only reason that kept going as long as it did is because the press secretary went out there and lied for months about what really happened. So now on this issue, incidentally, the sheriff was called pretty quickly, and the report's filed, yet OMG the MEDIA didn't know. STFU already. It's all about perspective. And as usual, the press corps want a piece of ass because they were 'scooped'. f*** them. Back to Clinton? I won't even go there. Monica was because the press secretary lied? No way Kap. It was because the President lied under oath about the bj *and* the GOP decided they would continue to dig up anything they could find and try for an impeachment when the President lied about a BJ. Is it news when the VP of the United States shoots someone? Give me a definition of news that wouldn't include that. And as usual the politicians* in question want this hidden and the public ignorant of the facts. f*** them. *politicians ~ professionals in both parties.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 06:20 PM) Ahh...are you implying I aught to create a trust that will ensure the lasting existence of Soxtalk. Haaa...I'm selfish..when I die so does Soxtalk. Therefor all of you should protect me as if I were the president. yes we will, all hail ChiSoxfn

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 06:17 PM) Nope...if I dissapear it probably means I'm dead. But where would we go?

I am looking at small four wheel drive beach vehicles and thinking Suzuki Samurai, Jeep, Geo Trackers, etc. I will need one for me and probably three more for the camp, any thoughts?

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) Every time I flex my biceps in the mirror. Oooh Kickass, I love it when you talk like that

He is a fine athlete and sportsman, in the Billy Koch tradition.

Bring em all in, somebody will stick

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