Texsox

QUOTE(mreye @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 07:52 AM) I understand both arguements, but let's talk about what this says if it is indeed true. That visitors to that web site think revenge is good.

There are a number of neighborhoods like that in every city where people line up to view the show. I forget the area just off the Edens that was incredible most years. Christmas wasn't complete until I spent an hour in a traffic jam viewing those lights. He did invest in a low wattage FM transmitter, so he didn't have speakers blaring. What I imagine is annoying the most is trying to get to your house with all the damn traffic.

LOL, then the Americanization of Iraq will be complete

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 07:29 AM) The question is asked in an unbiased manner. There were 180k answer the question, so small sample size can't be claimed. Oh yes, this was from MSNBC, not FoxNews. But you know what, you'll brush it off and latch on to the next poll that you like the results. I know how it works. LOL. How many blacks vs. whites responded? Is that important to know? Sample size is irrelevant if you don't know the population it came from. This is basic polling fact. If I polled 20,000 NRA members and asked about gun control, would that be more accurate than 10,000 subjects that reflect the US population in regards to race, sex, religion, region of the country, etc.? Keep playing blind YAS. I'm done trying to wake someone pretending to be asleep.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 07:25 AM) And if this is the same guy, he had to shut it down because there was a traffic accident in front of his house and it took the authorities two hours to get to the accident. After that, he was told that he couldn't do it anymore because it was becoming a nusciance. Exactly the same guy.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 07:15 AM) Controlled polls can also be controlled to skew the results. This poll asked a simple question with yes or no as responses. You see the results. Nothing more, nothing less. YAS, how many males vs. females voted? How many Black vs. Whites? Blacks are much less likely to have internet access than Whites. Blacks are much more likely to be against capital punishment. What this poll proved is visitors to that website, on those days, are 73% in favor or capital punishment. It can't reliably be said that the world population is in favor, that the US population is in favor, that the population in Kentucky is in favor. Look at to two choices. The wording is flawed. If it was written are you in favor of capital punishment, even though innocent people, like your child, may be killed? Would that change the results?

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 07:49 AM) I would give Joey perfect health. Amen to that.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 06:58 AM) Everything is polled in this country. Are Bush's performance polls just as unreliable and as easily dismissed? You guys can't have your cake and eat it too. Polls were anyone can just come in and click are not as reliable as controlled polls where the subjects are selected to match the population. If I polled the NRA members on gun control issues, the results would not be valid, likewise if I polled Village Voice readers on gun control. Same thing with asking anyone to click here to vote. Polls where the US Population is sampled, the percentage of Dems and GOPs, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, males and females, etc. are all accounted for are more reliable. That is why the White House, and their opponents, hire professional pollsters instead of sticking a poll on the White House Web Site. Come on YAS, you are smart enough to know that. This isn't having your cake and eating it to. It's about the difference in a scientific poll and an entertainment poll. And I will give you this, I believe the population is in favor of killing people. I wish we had more of a Roman spectacle about it. Perhaps have a giant stadium and allow the fans to vote thumbs up or thumbs down. Now that would be a deterrent.

You do understand that these polls are not reliable? It would be like having a poll here and asking who is your favorite baseball team. But that is why we have captal punishment in this country. Revenge feels good.

Was this posted? http://www.snopes.com/photos/arts/xmaslights.asp $10,000 and a lot of work, and his Christmas lights are synched to music. Click on the here or here link.

QUOTE(SoCalSouthSider59 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) This priest jackoff should get the needle too......... Funny thing about your avatar, do that, and you won't be in the pile that God keeps.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) Okay I can play along with those who want the death penalty abolished now that we are housing said psychopathic killer on the goverment dime for the next 30-50 years what about the following. Lets play make believe, lets eliminate the death penalty. Woosh, its gone. Now what. QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 05:50 PM) Who the hell talked about price. I still find it hillarious how people b**** and moan about hte rights of prisoners. They are in there for a reason. As far as I'm concerned they should essentially be slaves and work for everything (there wages will be a place to sleep and food to eat). And putting them to work, takes away a job from an innocent worker trying to make a living on the outside. Happened to a cable harness manufacturer I use to sell to. He lost his customer to a private prison who was using inmates. Eight of his employees lost their jobs when that contract went away. I am not b****ing about the rights of prisoners. BTW, the privileges that are being spoken about are important to the guards who use those privileges as rewards and punishments for good behavior. It makes their jobs easier. But, I'd have no problem taking all that stuff away and just making the guards work harder.

LMAO at it's ok to pay to house and feed some thief, rapist, hooker, small time drug dealer, bookie, but we damn well better not spend money on locking murders up. The people on death row amount to such a small percentage of what we pay to incarcerate people in this country. If money was really the issue, decriminalize marijuana and safe way more than on killing a handful of inmates.

Do y'all seriously believe if we started executing people daily and immediately, the gang member would throw down their weapons and stop committing murder? Would they go get jobs at McDonalds? :headshake

I've has the opportunity to hang around professional and serious amateur comedians and as a group they are the most pathetic people to hang with. Mean, paranoid, back stabbing, gossiping, unfunny unless on stage are just a few of the attributes that come to mind.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 09:45 AM) I'm starting to get nausious. later folks. I'm with YAS, I'm just repeating myself.

QUOTE(juddling @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) I know this would never happen but if we were to give a person a fair trial....one appeal then if the death penalty is applied do it with in a month...it might help. Ever since i was little, i couldn't figure out how or why people sit on death row for 18 or 20 years. As far as being a deterrent...we excute a couple hundred gang members a year instead of 1 or 2 every 20....guess what.....some people might wake up. Texas executed 4 people last month. Gang on gang murders are #1 in most cities, these guys already face the death penalty standing on the corners, protecting their turf. Do you think they will suddenly drop the guns and pick up knitting needles if they thought the state might execute them in a year? GMAB

QUOTE(J-MAN @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) As a middle age accountant - one life is less valuable than another ? Anyone who kills another has no rights! What about the rights of the people who were killed? As a society we have decided that certain murders "qualify" for the death penalty. Cops, kids, multiples, during another crime, etc. and others do not. Either way a person is dead, but we value some lives more than others in the death penalty laws. What "right" are you speaking about for the victim? You are confusing revenge with "rights". We do not allow a robbery victim the "right" to go rob the thief. We do not give a shooting victim the right to later shoot the convicted. And this is about "rights" it's about the value of human life and who determines who is to live and who is to die. The murderer made that decision and should be punished. The state should not make that same decision.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 09:40 AM) We've been over this ground before Tex. The Death Penalty isin't a deterrent because it takes an average of 12 years to kill these assholes and it isin't imposed in a uniform manner. You and LCR should save your tears for the thousands of victims created by this piece of s***. LMAO, I'll kill someone as long as I get to sit on death row for 12 years!? Why aren't murders higher in states w/o the death penalty? Why are there still murders in Texas where we execute so many no one pays attention? These guys are shooting at each other. They face a death penalty leaving their homes from a rival gang.

If a warden strapped a visitor to a gurney, injected a lethal dose of poison, and they died, he would have committed a sin in God's eyes, and murder in the state's laws. If a warden straps someone down, who a jury ruled should die, then some believe it is not a sin. Funny how man's laws can trump God's laws. The hubris is amazing.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) 350 copies?! LMFAO!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! I think the Cripps, nationwide, probably are responsible for that many deaths, either directly or indirectly in a month let alone a year. Lets do a little math here. 350x12 months x 20 years ( give or take ) = 84000 deaths since the Cripps were founded. How many thousands more are in jail because of the Cripps? Someone gets it. Yet, even after their fellow gang members have been executed, they still commit murder? I guess this isn't much of a deterrent.

The government decides who is to live, and who is to die. We are placing relative values on human life. This life is worth living, this one is not. Some of you trust the government to do that, I do not. Combined with the Catholic in me coming out, I find it much easier to believe that we Shall not Kill. Nuke wants to point out other sinners as justification for our sins as a society. I guess if the race is to the lowest common denominator, he'll win. The man does not deserve to see a free day for the rest of his natural life. No amount of children's books and community service will equal the horror he inflicted in many families. As a deterrent, (which some proponents of government sanctioned killing point to as justification) would he be more of a deterrent continuing to tell his tale from a cell block? A living, breathing, communicating, testimony to crime doesn't pay? When we as a society do not place the highest value imaginable on the sanctity of human life, we all suffer. When any life, no matter how despicably led, is worth saving, that sends a better message than some lives are worth living and some are not. That was the same decision he made many years ago, thast those four lives are not worth living, I don't want my government making the same decision.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) The Bible is such a hypocritical book. The same people who said "Thou shalt not kill" were stoning women to death for wearing clothes made from 2 different kinds of thread. That argument just doesn't wash with me. Actually Nuke, God said Thou Shall not Kill, followers then, like today, did not heed his Word and they instituted the Death Penalty for crimes they saw fit.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 08:31 AM) You know, I can respect that opinion. I just don't buy into the fact that this cold blooded murderer is an asset to society. He isn't, and I don't think anyone here would argue that point. But is anyone locked up for any crime an assett?