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QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 05:03 AM) One of the very few SL&P posts of yours in which I am in total agreement. As far as I'm concerned, you nailed it. Great Post! Wow, I have to agree, YAS, this is one of the few SL&P posts of *yours* in which I am in total agreement. Jim did nail it. I am hearing Paul Simon singing . . . still bitter after all these years . . .. In reality I'll bet Jim has let go, the family seems like a huge upgrade.

Ain't that the truth . . .

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) Alright! I'd recognize that view from the southeast rim any day. I'll have to admit I didn't get there under my own power, though. I rode a horse up and back. And since I wasn't used to riding, I was SOME sore afterwards. Among the neat things that happened was having a mountain lion spook the horses while we were on the trail. Anyway, I've great memories of trips to Big Bend National Park - one of my absolute favorite places in the United States. I like cheese, too. There is something wonderful at seeing the wide open spaces from atop a horse. There are a few spots that I would have been nervous at the drops.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) No, what we're concerned about is keeping this team under the self proposed budget so we can add other parts and pieces. I know what you're trying to get at here but this question is crazy and I know your just trying to make a point out of it. How does everybody know what the budget should be? I mean really know. I just can't fathom careing if a player makes an extra million. I understand it makes for a more interesting off season playing GM, but as a fan, I don't really care if JR makes 1 million or 10 million next season.

Apathy creeps up, soon you have a friend where once there was a lover. Soon you have a stranger and without an strong emotions to drive the relationship, it dies like a tropical storm over cold water. That to me is the saddest. To end not in a final fireworks display, a catharsis of sorts, it ends with a whimper.

I guess moving is the best way to end a relationship

QUOTE(spiderman @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 11:04 PM) I believe that the tax cuts are a stimulus, but I also believe we need to cut spending, and spend the money we do more responsibly - sounds simple, but the government is constantly waisting our tax money. OK, I'll buy it's a stimulus. But who will be paying back the debt plus interest?

QUOTE(timotime @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 11:02 PM) veeck. i should have known. now i know more about him than i ever did before. my hats off to you, man. I was a stupid, half drunk, underage, college student when I met him at a game. He asked if I was having a good time, and told me there was no better place to be than right here. It was all of 5 seconds, but he made me feel like a was a part of the Sox success. Special person.

QUOTE(timotime @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) tex, i have to ask, who is the guy with the glasses on the left side of your avatar? Bill Veeck, White Sox owner during the South Side Hit Men and Rent a Player days. Thanks for asking.

QUOTE(LDF @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) i was talking purely on george and you make some very good points esp spending to make more and winning more series as the yanks under george won how many series??? so spending money at the right person and position, has always been my argument. rafael looks good now. The Yankees have won more than any other MLB team during his tenure. Still, if the Sox went $5 mil over budget for next season, would anybody care? Should fans care? Should fans be demanding JR use the Championship dividend?

QUOTE(LDF @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 10:19 PM) i to my amazement agree with what qwerty had to write and i see where you are going with this. so let me ask you this. would you be like georgie of the yanks and overspend to get players who you think can help??? I think there is a difference between being a fan and being an owner. In almost every instance that a free agent signs, the winning team overpaid. It's just like an auction, the highest bidder, the person who values the item/player the most, wins. So over paying isn't really an issue. I am certain Philly shopped Thome. The Sox won. Why? Because the Sox offered more. So they paid more than anyone else was willing to pay. In this case they overpaid within a reasonable amount. I guess what is unreasonable is in the eyes of the beholder. Getting back to George. The more he throws away money, the more he makes. If you were a Yankee fan, would you be cheering for George to spend less and make more? Last I saw, the Yankees were #1 or #2 in profits, so how could anyone say they are over spending?

QUOTE(daa84 @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 10:11 PM) if im the owner i have to make money first....thats why i invest in a team....as a fan i dotn see any of that 25 mil...so obviously winning....but if im an owner i try to win and make a profit because as was stated winning makes more profit... If you were truly interested in profits, you wouldn't be investing in a pro sports team. Most have underperformed the market. Most owners went into it as a very expensive hobby after amassing a fortune in their "first career".

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 10:00 PM) Winning= profity so i really do not understand this poll. It is all the discussions regarding contracts and player values. It seems as if Sox fans would rather the team keep within some pre-defined spending limit than over spend for a player who would help the team. And it isn't always within the context of a team's budget. A typical response will be "I'd take him for $6 mil but not $7". So if your team makes a million less next season that would bother you?

QUOTE(farmteam @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) Not necessarily. When a fan looks at those numbers, he doesn't see a profit--he sees how much can be spent while staying maintaining the budget. So, the fan is looking to see how they can improve the team, and thus help them win more. They are using numbers set aside by the management, who have deduced that number with profits in mind. Should fans just assume that the team budget is correct? If the team has $25 mil in profit built in, isn't trying to stay within the team's budget pulling for the profit?

QUOTE(farmteam @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 09:46 PM) Tex, I do believe you've gone off your rocker. As a fan, winning is far superior. Yet, I read posters claiming they don't want this player at X dollars, not anything about his on field play. If we write, I'd take player X at $5 mil but not $7 then aren't we concerned about the team profits?

As we get to the point in the year when money is everything, I'm wondering which is more important to Sox fans, the team making money or winning another championship.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 09:36 PM) Classic. NO! I HAVE to have the last word. NO! I have to HAVE the last word. NO! I have to have the LAST word. NO! I have to have the last WORD! (this to no one in particular, just quite humorous... carry on!) LOL stalker

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 06:15 PM) WTF! I got totally skunked in the UP for 5 days. I only saw 1 doe and never got a shot at her. The most action I got all weekend (Wed-Sun) was when I almost got taken down by a wolf. Bastard was less than 10 yards away from me but was running at me full-speed. I almost s*** my pant....then I realized I had a .270 Win in my hands and started laughing my ass off. Are you certain it was a wolf and not another canine? IIRC, that is very unusual for a wolf. Coyote would seem more likely. Do you think it was still too early in the season? Since I've so far south, I have a hard time remembering what the weather should be like up north. I do know I'd be winterizing the boat and hoping for first ice about now.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 05:16 PM) That's no longer a grilled cheese. It's a quesadilla. PA used Whole Wheat, I just changed to a flat bread.

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QUOTE(spiderman @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) Bush only cut taxes on those who were paying taxes - I don't think most homeless people are actually paying federal taxes. Why should people too poor to pay federal taxes get a tax refund ? Why should he cut taxes while *increasing* expenses? You do realize we are borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars, and somehow some people think that other people will magically arrive to pay the debt. If it isn't the taxpayers with the most resources, who will be paying all this back *plus* interest?

You guys do understand this is classic guy humor and maybe 1 in a 100 females would find it funny? I'm starting to think y'all are clueless.

I was just reading in a quasi-Psychology magazine, unscientific, that women are more likely to introduce new words and pronunciations into a language. Are there any scientific studies to back that up that you are aware of?

If we don't sign Paulie, we swapped a 29-year old, heading into his prime, for a pair of midthirty-year olds coming off injuries and surgeries and earning less money. Thome + Thomas If they both are healthy and return to anything close to historic levels, we are ahead of the game and may not need to do anything.