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Thank you. I was thinking the same thing.

True.

The narrative will be "he lead the Sox to their first back to back playoff appearances" . . .

I agree. It might not be a promotion or even a lateral move, but he'll get another chance.

Exactly. I don't think there is much Tony can do. I believe that's Frank, Howie, and Yoan working together to solve the problem. I think we'll agree Tony has done a poor job of selecting coaches. Although he has managed to hire friends and family, (Duncan and Katz) so he's got that going for him. Which then leads to a logical conclusion that if we can't get Tony out, replacing a couple coaches would probably be faster route to improvement.

Your post I responded to said Harrison and Garcia. I was discussing Harrison. I thought you would just assume that. I shouldn't have assumed you would.

When Garcia was re-signed, Tony called him an everyday player who happens to be in different positions each day. Tony intended you play him a lot all along. Which I'm not totally against. While I prefer the "Sunday lineup" approach to resting players, rotating daily who sits works for some rosters.

The only disagreement probably is I place less than 50% of the blame on the manager.

Welcome to Soxtalk. While not totally disagreeing, when Tony does things that no other manager would do, and it fails, that isn't because he's dumber than anyone here. More likely it's hubris and desperation.

Spot on.

Because we truly don't know what decision he had to make regarding Harrison. We don't know what other deals they pursued and which agents or teams turned them down. As horrific as it sounds, this possibly was the best deal available. (I doubt this was the best but there are a very limited number of people that truly know with 100% certainty.) But, in the end this is a severely flawed team that the front office handed to a well past his prime manager with disastrous results. Yet knowledgeable fans bought into the hype at the start of the season. Knowing all the issues a majority of posters here predicted a first place finish and decent playoff run. To admit Hahn sucked this up is to admit you were fooled.

Please show me where I said Tony's poor performances are excusable? He should get his share of the blame. However, to dismiss players' impact on a manager's performance is just as ignorant a position as to put 100% blame on the coaches for their performance . . .

So Moncada will follow the poor approach at the plate instructions while batting .125? He's not a bright guy then. How much advance notice does he require before playing? "I thought I was playing tomorrow, but I'm playing today?! I can't hit under these conditions!" Amazingly there are non starters that can adjust. Just last week we saw some great pinch hitting. Do you think those guys knew in advance they would be asked to pinch hit? No doubt Tony isn't performing up to MLB standards but the players should get their share of the blame. Most everyone blamed Dallas Keuchel for his failures. They point to Garcia's general lack of talent for his inability. Harrison just can't hit anymore and was a poor signing. But other players get a pass and Tony blamed?

What do you think they could be doing that isn't the player's fault and the player would be back to last year's production as soon as Tony stopped doing it?

What is Tony doing that caused Moncada to hit .125? More importantly what is he doing that is causing Moncada to not be able to fix it?

I already know they would score the same. Their development is to be self coaching and not need someone telling them what to do all the time. My top players play the majority of tournaments away from me. They are playing on local, regional, and national tours all summer and at various times throughout the school year. They will play eight to ten events with me and 15 to 20 away from me and their teammates. I don't think amateur high school kids and professional athletes with years of experience are a fair comparison. But if high school kids can self coach and play well without a coach always present why can't Moncada? Is he feeling a little blue and needing a "win one for the Gipper!" speech? How about this motivational speech go play your position like you use to for about 10 years or you'll be sitting your ass down and not getting another big payday.

Players gotta play. I can't accept that Moncada gets in the batters box and who his manager is determines if he's hitting .125 or .275. I don't believe Tim was playing great because of Tony.

I'm for it. But to help out the defense I'd like to go full platoon. Like football, the most popular sport in America, put out an offense and a defense. There would be some two way players, but let's line up our best offense against your best defense and play ball.

@shipps did they get them all?

Like our manager we have them after they were useful.

Control. Can't have him become a free agent too soon.

@The Beast I agree. Gas seems to be the one thing that folks believe the president can control the price of. I've never heard anyone say that about the price of gold, olive oil, etc. I'm in Texas, I see all the pump jacks and off shore rigs but I've never seen a gas station selling cheaper US gas over imports. I've seen oil and gas companies in boom or bust cycles. Now that the cost of oil is high US production takes off. At $80 a barrel it's better left in the ground.

Decent by 2022 WS standards. Hopefully a couple days off will reset.

Something to look forward to.