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We don't have patience for a grow with the team. If the next guy lasts two years he's doing well.

Agreed. I'd go further and say all the comparisons are comparing apples and oranges even within baseball.

Thankfully he didn't ask for money or time. Most fans have turned them down for that. What are the choices? A. Stay a fan and be angry all the time. B. Drop them and find another team. C. Ignore them for a couple seasons (be patient) until something with getting excited happens. JR moves on for example.

Doesn't care or doesn't put up with it? If they hired him to put an end to it, bravo for realizing the problem. It was just bigger issue than one coaching staff could contain.

He has to live in Detroit. Chicago is a major market. I'm not certain it's that smart of a move.

Not my system, just one list I found. I'm a data and stat person. It seems like there should be good analytics on something this important. The ranking is flawed because payroll is used to determine a value of injuries. We're trying to quantify approach to injuries. 12 teams had more players injured. Only five teams lost more days total, which is evidence that they are out more days per injury. So the theory is if they were out more initially the over all total would be less. I'm trying to see if there is some way to calculate which teams are doing it better.

It is. I see players in other teams getting injured, and reinjured. I'm wondering how much worse the Sox are compared to the other teams. If we look at days on IR it should be less because we rush guys back. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/injured/_/year/2024/view/team The Sox are tenth in total days missed. Ironically it seems that KC has the best and Texas the worst.

I was trying to find some objective evidence that would prove the Sox rush guys back more than other teams and can't really find it. What team holds guys back longer from similar injuries?

But what about the puppeteer behind Greg?

If they are at the game I wouldn't call them "so-called fans". I have respect for anyone willing to pay their money and endure watching this mess in person. And aren't some of those boos directed at JR, Getz, and the rest of the non players responsible for a historic season?

Are you trying out for catcher?

Meanwhile in Texas I received this four times yesterday.

I certainly got my money's worth from my free MLB package. Thank you T Mobile.

I was thinking that also. I wonder if he would retire or consider another position around the league if his agent can't work out a deal.

But you're here and you're watching. Would you spend your time and money at a movie you know is bad or a TV show that pisses you off?

I think I missed the mark with brand loyalty. There is probably a better analogy. I think you kind of hit a point I missed, but *we* aren't finding it easy to ignore them. Yes, a lot of the fan base is ignoring them but they still managed to not be dead last in attendance. Perhaps it's the same fans that fill the corners of NASCAR stadiums.

I considered that. I stand by my statement lol

But looking at the weather forecast they will probably have to play the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings.

Buddy, you won't be working when they are good again. We might not be alive when they are average again.

Yet here we are after they did the opposite. We would go find another restaurant, bar, car brand, whatever yet we allow sports teams to abuse the fans and we keep coming back.

There are a few current companies that I'm pretty loyal to. Titleist, Patagonia, USAA, and DeWalt come to mind. If any of them performed like the Sox, I'd ditch them in a heartbeat. I've "tried on" four MLB baseball teams the past couple seasons and it just isn't authentic. So what do sports teams do to create such customer loyalty that other businesses can't?

That too

I thought I did, but here we are

We still don't know how bad it has to be before we stop being fans.

That was total bs on their part.