Texsox

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 26, 2009 -> 08:25 AM) So in other words, they never did fully shut down their program when they said they did because they just managed to put together a nuclear bomb in six weeks or so. As long as a country has a University, they have a weapons program. I don't think anyone is ever fooled otherwise. Nothing on this planet elevates a country like oil or a nuclear bomb. Toss in being just crazy enough to use it and instant invitations to all the cool country events.

It is good to see.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 25, 2009 -> 05:00 PM) That's fine then, I guess message boards need those who just come by to take pot shots at the rest while really providing no opinion of their own. I'm not entirely sure why you even bothered to read the comments in this thread considering the vast majority of them are likely to be opinions of the writer's opinion and the rest will be opinions of the opinions of the writer's opinion. After all, that would be boring. Perhaps you just can't pass up an opportunity to point out the many hypocrisies of this board's posters. You say the board consensus is that this team is going to suck for a while, I don't think that's the case at all. So naturally I'm going to be curious as to why you hold this opinion. What I think most believe: this team has a good young core, an owner willing to spend, a s*** load of money coming off the books, a very good farm system and an aggressive general manager with a knack of dealing the right guys at the right time. Sound like a recipe for a quick turn around if things don't work out this year. I still find it interesting that you were able to determine a board consensus after 3 posts (I believe that's how many posters stated their displeasure with the posted article), seems like a sample size issue to me. Of course it's awful hard to determine your real point when you're speaking in generalities. If you're going to start calling out hypocrites perhaps you should start with the people in this thread.

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 23, 2009 -> 11:16 AM) This thread should be renamed to "CROW BUFFET" That's why they play the games.

Happy, Happy, Birthday!(2)

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 25, 2009 -> 12:11 AM) Not entirely sure where you read that one. I'm Curious who exactly believes this team's future is beak, since you're confident enough to put it in a post calling people out I'd love to hear some names. I'm almost positive the 3 people in this thread that have expressed their displeasure with the premise of the posted article are not amongst those you speak of so we can cross them off to start. Blanket statements are fun though. I'm also curious what your opinion is of the article. I am not going to wade through old threads and find those that have criticized KW for depleting the farm system, not finding a reliable lead off hitter, center fielder, or any of the rest. I could point to Josh Fields is a bust type threads. The I'm sick and tired of this s*** threads. The posts where we should blow up this team and start a rebuilding process. If you have not read them, I'm not going to read them for you. And I'm not curious about your* opinion of the article, but I thank you for being curious of mine. The article is the perspective of one guy who does not follow the Sox as closely as most here. Often times the out of town writer opinions take a season or two to change. The opinions have to be formed while writing on deadlines. The writer does not have the luxury of living and dying with one team, so they are never as accurate as the hometown beat writers. Of course, the hometown guy is also an idiot if he disagrees with the average poster's opinion. *or anyone's opinion. An opinion of this writer's opinion is kind of boring.

Did anyone think Peavy came here, read how badly this team sucks, and is going to suck for a long time, and decided not to come? I've been reading for months here how this team sucks, then when it's in print elsewhere, suddenly that writer is an idiot

It's a shame that people of faith receive so little respect here. Their ideas are dismissed on a regular basis. They are told they should not have opinions on much of anything from alcohol laws, to what is shown on TV, to basically anything that has to do with public policy. With that, I shall leave. Sorry of I have offended anyone with my "off the rocker" faith.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 18, 2009 -> 08:47 PM) So everyone who believes in a deity is "off their rocker"?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 18, 2009 -> 07:34 PM) He's one of the wave of New World Order types, who at one time in the 80's labeled themselves realists, but as time went on and 9/11 happened, suddenly went off their rocker and wanted a holy war. Cheney is another one, though Cheney's transformation was even more extreme. What behavior have you seen from Rumsfeld that makes you believe he is "off his rocker"?

QUOTE (greasywheels121 @ May 18, 2009 -> 06:58 PM) QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 18, 2009 -> 04:43 PM) Well why the f*** not? You will appreciate this... QUOTE (Texsox @ May 18, 2009 -> 02:43 PM) Awesome

Are you thinking something like The Chicago White Sox received: Keith Foulke, right-handed pitcher Bob Howry, right-handed pitcher Lorenzo Barcelo, right-handed pitcher Ken Vining, left-handed pitcher Mike Caruso, shortstop Brian Manning The San Francisco Giants received: Wilson Alvarez, left-handed pitcher Danny Darwin, right-handed pitcher Roberto Hernández, right-handed pitcher

QUOTE (BobDylan @ May 18, 2009 -> 04:47 PM) It is common courtesy to give them a piece of gum after they do the deed. Have you any manners? It is worse than garlic breath. Exactly, I gave shipps a piece

I really miss PA at times like this.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 18, 2009 -> 05:25 PM) Interesting. Never got that impression from him, but in this case I'll defer. Not everyone who quotes the Bible is a born again, over the top, always ministering, Bible thumper, like me

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 18, 2009 -> 01:04 PM) BUT HE DIDN'T! And THEREIN lies the problem. QUOTE (Reddy @ May 18, 2009 -> 01:07 PM) but he's not using it as LITERATURE, but as a sacred religious text as a basis for military action! QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 18, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) Tex, I think you are the only one going to the extremities on this one. CAPS EXCLAMATIONS!! I was just responding to his posts. I believe I responded directly, and point on, to his statements.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 18, 2009 -> 03:34 PM) Come to think of it, I don't think he ever even asked to borrow it. typical from our government

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 17, 2009 -> 11:59 AM) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He hasn't been given these kinds of guys to work with. Its like asking a chef to go into McDonald's kitchen and making something gourmet. It was very interesting to hear Hawk and Stone talk about Cito Gaston and Gene Tenace yesterday. Cito has always been known as a hitting guru. They mentioned that they are very rare because they mention to their hitters actually trying to hit a home run. The White Sox have pretty much had power offense for a while now. I don't know why a lot of people think the home run is bad. I think the lowest homer totals they have had in the last 10 years or so was 2007, they lost 90 games, and this year they are a little behind in the HR dept. and look at their record. If they can't acquire high obp guys who can run, they have to hit homers to score. It was absolutely ridiculous to think this was going to be a good offensive team if guys like Dewayne Wise and Brent Lillibridge were leading off. Blaming Walker is ludicrous. It would be like firing Don Cooper if Mike MacDougal was the closer and he blew another game. So he is only able to help guys to hit more home runs? I believe that is what has been said. Guys come here and become better sluggers, but they never seem to raise their averages.

These labels really serve almost no use. A bunch of men, and it always seems to be men, are bound together in a war against another group of men. We change the label based on their size and if we agree or disagree with their aims and methods. Well, wait, scratch the methods. If we publicly disagree with their methods, we seem to privately use them as outside sources. Are we terrorists? Damn right. You would have to be the stupidest person on the planet to not feel terror if the US comes after you with our military.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 18, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) Me and the Prez own the same jacket. Too cool! Nice of you to let him wear it that day.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 18, 2009 -> 02:56 PM) Go read Woodward's books. And Curveball. Then let us know if you still think that Rumsfeld wasn't a major guy promoting engineering the Iraq war. The previous post made it seem as if Rumssssfeld single handily did it based on his faith. And of course it was Rumsfeld's quotes from the Bible that had everyone lined up perfectly behind him. Once that Christian endorsement from the government was shown, Congress and everyone else just lined up like hogs to slaughter. I think people are giving just a little too much credit for this.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 18, 2009 -> 01:07 PM) but he's not using it as LITERATURE, but as a sacred religious text as a basis for military action! Not to be all over the map here but, IIRC Congress, the President, Colon Powell, CNN, Fox News, and a few others decided the basis for military action. Again, IIRC there was concerns about weapons of mass destruction, mass executions, and perhaps torture and mass killings. I must has missed where Rumsfeld used religious text as a basis for "military action!"

I guess I took Duke's comments as more universal than specific to Soxtalk. As a group, we are probably more aware than most.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 18, 2009 -> 07:47 AM) Good lord Tex, you are all over the place with the slippery slopes and the straw men. Different posters have made different points with different points of view, for me to stay in one place I will have to ignore some posts. It's a simple point, he's quoting from literature. Not a big deal. And the initial post mentioned that we have to stop because that is why some people hate us. So I've pointed out several ways that that does not make a difference in some people hating us. Some people will allow him to quote from some works of literature, but not others. That would require a government sanctioned list of approved books that can be quoted from. Telling someone of faith to check their beliefs at the door, would be the same as telling the atheists to check their beliefs at the door.