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QUOTE (midway @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 04:39 PM) At this point so would I Jose. I'm just getting really frustrated watching all these deals getting done while we sit here content with a roster that produced 99 losses...I just don't get it and am losing interest quickly and need to vent somewhere!!!!! Winter meetings will be another yawn at this rate.... Yes, because all of 0 minutes have passed at the winter meetings thus far.

The difference between De Aza and Fowler is negligible. People want moves, but the Sox aren't going to make moves just to make moves. Relax.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) The most significant misuse of statistics is using bWAR. Their s*** is all f***ed up. FanGraphs. Please. They have better offensive, defensive, and pitching metrics to calculate WAR. I don't mind bWAR as I think it's a better showing of what actually happened on the field. fWAR is just a better determinant of true talent, and that's typically what people want - the best, more talented, not who put up a high ERA because they got lucky.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 04:12 PM) I'm not going to get worked up about Hahn passing on him. I might have paid him that much, but he's a super-duper-high strikeout player that has had one good season in his career in a pretty decent lineup I really do agree. I thought he might have gotten a 4th year, but I guess he barely got a 3rd. I thought he might have gotten $10 mill too, but the $7-8 is still significant. I don't think the Sox liked the idea of Saltalamacchia.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 03:50 PM) I am sure by the time I post this SS2K5 will already have posted but... Marc Topkin @TBTimes_Rays: No Lobaton deal for now. #Rays Friedman said catching situation will sort itself out, that its not ideal but they could to go to spring w/all 3 You couldn't have been more accurate

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:52 PM) I really think it's ridiculous that people say a guy has a 2.0 bWAR so if he replaced a 0.0 bWAR the team would have won 2 more games. If the number is so accurate, the final standings would perfectly reflect every team's collective bWARs, correct? I think they should just cancel the playoffs, forget about standings and just hand out a bWAR trophy at the end of the year. Sabermetrics is a big part of baseball, but to think these numbers are the end all is ridiculous. People like to mention xFIP for pitchers. Did you know Gavin Floyd had a better career xFIP than Mark Buehrle? Who would you rather have on the mound? Yes, that's not quite accurate as there can be deviation, but they are solid. A guy with a 2.5 WAR and a guy with a 2.3 WAR are, for all intents and purposes, the same value, but the difference between a 2 WAR and 0 WAR is significant. Regardless, the Sox are not going to go from a 99 loss team to an 85 win team solely due to the presence of AJ Pierzynski.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:49 PM) The White Sox starting pitching is so overrated. It's good, but so are a lot of other rotations in the AL. Yes. It's a nice thing to have, because there is room to grow, but they could very easily end up starting 2 guys who are essentially rookies next year.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) Fathom, rebuilding with guys like Loboton?? Cmon. Yes. He draws walks, hits a little bit and can apparently handle a staff just fine. For a cost that is likely next to nothing, that is good value.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) I'm sure the Red Sox are worried about AJP's bWAR paying him that kind of jack. They just know they want him cause he can play. Grobstien had another rant against sabermetrics on the Score last night BTW. I can go both ways. Except I will tell you I know AJP is a good catcher/player/contributer without looking at bWAR. And I know some of our other players are horses*** by sight alone as well, sabes be darned. I agree, I can see that AJ is a good player just the way that I saw that Erstad and Timo and Kotsay were good players too

Really, the Sox would be much better if they re-hired Ozzie, just to be the bench coach

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) 1979-1992, the average AL start was 6.23 innings. Jack Morris averaged an inning more than that...over 14 seasons. Again, I'm not saying somebody is wrong for thinking he's not a HOF. There were better pitchers than him in shorter bursts. But the guy was way durable in his specific era, and did some things in the game that were special. Not arguing the point, because it's your call, but I think a valid comparison to Morris is Buehrle. Do you believe Buehrle is a Hall of Famer?

Career .276/.393/.394/.786 versus lefties. He's a matchup nightmare, which Maddon loves

QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 10:35 AM) Exactly. Why on earth would he want to come back to Chicago? Pizza and hot dogs

QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:39 AM) He's a white guy, they'll love him HE'S OW-AH NEW WELKAH. WHATTA GROINDER

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:50 AM) If his problem is mechanical, I know a guy... He altered his mechanics to compensate for the injuries. From the sounds of it, if he reverts to his previous mechanics, he will end up hurting his back and shoulder. I just don't think it's worth the headache.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:33 AM) Tommy Hanson is genuinely intriguing. When Tommy Hanson came up, he averaged 92.3 MPH on his fastball and it had some serious get up. It didn't average 90 this year (almost down to Dylan Axelrod range), his K/9 fell below 7, his line drive and flyball rates increased, and his control remained mediocre. I think he's hurt and I don't think he's even worth a flyer.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:16 AM) I wouldnt say that He's more than earned his spot in the majors, thus, he's too good for AAA. I'm sure he could play and he might put up a .950 OPS or he might put up a .750 OPS, but he would more than hold his own.

QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:12 PM) Is there a rule of thumb that defines a woman just being flirty vs. real interest? Thanks. Yes. You ask them out. If they say no, you know which side of the fence you are on. I mean, I'm sure there are other indicators too, but feel the situation out. If she's doing it with other guys too, stay away (unless you want a flirty girlfriend). If she is just flirty with you but not really anyone else, then you are probably looking good. This is a case to case basis sort of thing.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:45 AM) BJ Raji is going to be a free agent, The Bears can sign him. I will drive him to the airport. Don't let him dance.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:47 AM) The point is, unless you already have him, you aren't going to acquire a guy who is going to be your catcher for 5 to 10 years. Playing guys that don't belong in the major leagues because they are in their 20s and theoretically can still be in the major leagues in 10 years just based on age is crazy. How many teams have had the same primary catcher the last 5 years? Stopgaps are used by just about everyone. And that could very well be what Phegley and Flowers are. They both have decent minor league track records and both failed in their first attempts as starters. That has happened in history. Bringing back AJ to a team that is going to struggle to win 80 games is an inefficient use of resources. I don't mind if they bring in 3 more catchers or if they use stop gaps. The idea should still be to try and find a long term solution.

I'm amazed that people wanted to the Sox to bring in JP Arencibia and then are irate that the Sox brought back Flowers. This is the ultimate in "who cares" signings. If the dude sucks, he'll get DFA'd. This signing is merely to insure that they have 2 MLB catchers on the roster.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:21 AM) Not a lot of teams have a guy they can say with any confidence will be their catcher the next 5-10 years. You are lucky if you get a guy for 3 or 4. The point is that you are looking for a long term solution. You are discussing semantics, which, ok, I guess. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:35 AM) No one ever claimed he would put us over the hump.... An old, lefty stop gap catcher that you can potentially pawn off for a piece is just what the doctor ordered for this team. A lot better than giving Salty 4 years or whatever he will get IMO. You would bring in AJ Pierzynski only to deal him at the deadline. For what he gave this franchise, I think that's a huge slap in the face. It would also take quite a time convincing him to come in using that pitch. More likely is that AJ never had any interest in re-signing with the Sox, regardless of their interest level (which was still probably nil)

100 times over Arencibia

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:15 AM) This is great news. No idea why you guys wanted to settle for a one year stopgap before the Winter Meetings even start. To me, that is the much "weirder" part of the fanbase. Yes. He was a fan favorite, but bringing him back would have been a move looking backwards. The Sox need to find a catcher that they can play for the next 5-10 years. Bringing back Pierzynski gives them, at the very most, 2 years, and you end up doing it 1 year at a time. It's just not smart business. I love AJ and have a deep appreciation for what he brought to the franchise for 8 years, but he was just not a viable solution looking forward.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 07:29 AM) Never would have thought Boston would sign him.. not because of the clubhouse "issues" but because of their own traditional philosophy with hitters. AJ is still a good hitting catcher and he makes the most sense on a contender. With that short RF, he could be back to 20+ homers again.