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I'd have Washington, Jefferson, T. Roosevelt, and Lincoln. I'd just put giant White Sox hats on their heads.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 22, 2012 -> 04:40 AM) Markakis is the only Oriole who profiles as the kind of left handed hitter, for whom I think Hahn is searching. He's a similar hitter to Ethier, but a better defender. He would fill the need for a middle of the order, left handed bat, with a high OBP. I'd like to see a trade of Floyd and Viciedo for Markakis and a top right handed pitching prospect. Markakis was actually a name I'd thought of, and I imagine Hahn and company have too. He's a great hitter. I don't think they'd acquire him without dealing Rios, though, because both are most comfortable and accustomed to playing and hitting out of RF. Of course, the other question is, how much does Floyd actually do for the Orioles? (oh, and who do I have to "touch inappropriately" to make sure Dylan Bundy (Al's illegimate, much more talented son) ends up on the White Sox?)

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) I survived the zombie vampire mayan attack!! If I fought off the Zombies and the Vampires, but not the Mayans, does that mean I am attacking you? Because your face looks delicious.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 05:12 PM) I am a gentle movers slowly right then left while tapping the reset button. I can get almost every game to work right away. And mine is my original console. As the leader of the hard and fast movers, we denounce this style and request a congressional vote to illegalize "slow a1nd gentle" moving NES players. 1 vote for yay Reasoning: Does it work? I'm sure it does. Just as it does the fact that the XBox 360 still works, or the Play Station Wii that he has. I imagine that, if he played Mortal Kombat on that with Diddy Mario, it would probably break but it would first give him a warning that the planet he was one was filled with the flood. Little did young RockRaines (no relation to Tim "Rock" Raines") he was actually born under an uncertain sign to uncertain parents in the land of Morrowind, but that King Uriel Septim wanted to make sure that Princess Zelda knew the whereabouts of the long lost Crash. Before he could ultimately realize that he was trying to save Crash Bandicoot, he was destroyed by Crash Man, and, while trying to recover, had a plasma grenade stick to him. Needless to say, Crash Bandicoot still needs to be saved. --- Next vote please:

QUOTE (Felix @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 04:43 PM) You have no idea who I am or what I'm about. You have a Calvin avatar that makes funny faces, you are a TWolves fan, and KEVIN.LOVE. I know everything.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 04:02 PM) I used to believe this, but then you grow up and realize the financial impact that would have. We can barely get 23k at a game when in first place. If the Sox were in last place last year attendance may have been below 20k. And you may counter, "payroll is lower so it's a wash!," and that may be true but the long term impact of losing those fans, of losing the young generation's attention would be huge to the Sox. They can't afford what the Cubs are doing because right now it's not the cool thing to be a Sox fan, it's not a destination for 30k+ fans when they are losing. The Sox must continue to field a competitive team, and build long term alongside that. Nailed it. Going into the season with a 25% chance of making the playoffs (which is probably about what I'd put the Sox at right now; Detroit at 50%, KC at 15%, Cleveland and Minnesota both at 5% or so) leaves open the opportunity that you have a "fluky" season and sneak into the playoffs, which increases revenue like crazy. On top of that, you have increased attendance due to being relevant in the division race for so long. There are a few areas where this team could improve, but even today, this team would have an outside shot at winning the division.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) I believe ownership owes it to it's fan base to put the best team on the field that it possibly can. Period. Not the best team it is willing to afford. And this is how the sub-prime mortgage crisis began

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 03:07 PM) Is he the best FA signing in Sox history ( not including guys who returned)? Off the top of my head he is. I would place Fisk above him for sure and you could make an argument for Dye. Oh, Will Ohman as well

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) True. My point is (at least on paper) the Tigers and the Royals have greatly improved their teams so far this off season, while the Sox (at best) have not, (and might not be as good as they were last season.). The Royals lost 90 games last year and have added 3 pitchers. You can say they greatly improved their team because James Shields will do that, but I think they'll still struggle to crack 81 wins. There's plenty of talent but there are quite a few holes around that team still too.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) but that s*** worked Only if you did it right. Quick, hard, left to right blow out, and then you throw it back in.

Someone on the Dodgers will get hurt

You are not supposed to blow in the cartridge, that is not right.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 01:56 PM) No one noticed Mine I thought they were good

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) I think you undervalue Martinez, and overvalue Danks. You are asking at their very best? This is a joke, right?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:48 AM) What makes you think that? Thornton has a proven track record as a dependable and good arm out of the bullpen. There are risks involved, as there always are acquiring relievers, but he has a proven track record. Meanwhile, Donnie Veal acted as a LOOGY and only has 13 innings worth of service time. You wouldn't get anything for Brian Omogross after the year he had and, while he had worse peripherals, the point still stands - there needs to be some record of success before a team will acquire someone like that.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:41 AM) It's important to note that you are not paying for those years of Matt Thornton. You're paying for 2013 Matt Thornton. I believe that if the Sox put both Veal and Thornton on the trade market, Veal would net the better return because of their contract situations and 8-year difference in age that favors Veal. I'm not saying you'd get a boatload in return for Veal, but a better return than for Thornton? Yes. I will let you believe that, but I believe you are wrong.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:03 AM) Jim Duquette ‏@Jim_Duquette No contract discussions with Konerko for the upcoming year, and he doesn't expect it. His last 2 negotiations both done after the season. CWS konerko told us that he hadn't spoken to Ventura about DH'ing more this year but whatever the team wants, he'll be ready for it CWS 2012 was the most prepared white sox team he's been on since being in Chicago. You don't say?

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:38 AM) Let's expand on this, for s--- and giggles...IF Detroit offered Verlander and VMart for Danks and Dunn, would you do it? How about Sanchez and Martinez? Verlander >> Danks > Martinez = Dunn, so easily, yes. Sanchez no, because he is simply not worth the extra $3 million per year You are still changing the argument trying to get me to take Martinez over Danks or something. Seriously. Initial: Would you rather have Zach Greinke or Albert Pujols? Changing argument: If the Dodgers offered Greinke and Gonzalez for Pujols and Weaver, would you do it? Additional: How about if it were Billingsley and Gonzalez? It changes the argument COMPLETELY

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:54 AM) Ok...I'll play your (stupid) semantics game, who do you think is a BETTER BASEBALL PLAYER, John Danks or Victor Martinez? John Danks.

QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:29 AM) I like Danks a lot...that said, if given a choice between having him on my team or Victor Martinez, I'd have to go with Victor. I like Peyton Manning a lot, but if given the choice between Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook, I'd take Josh Hamilton. This is essentially your argument right now.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:24 AM) Contract. I have a more affordable contract than Matt Thornton but no team is going to trade for me. Donnie Veal was minor league fodder last offseason. There's simply no way he has much value at this point. His value has increase, but he's not more valuable than Matt Thornton.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 10:01 AM) If you traded him for something, but we got nothing. He doesn't have repeat last year either. Which also doesn't mean you have to bring him back

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 09:59 AM) Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka A.J. Pierzynski: 10.2 bWAR in 1068 games with #WhiteSox. Ron Karkovice: 13.3 bWAR in 939 games with Sox If we're doing that, Fisk put up 26.5 bWAR, 34.2 fWAR

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 09:53 AM) I still don't understand when people say its time to move on from him. Coming off a great year nd we have no replacement to feel confident in. Yeah, great time to move on. You don't have confidence in the replacement. The organization obviously does.