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QUOTE(JERMAINEDYE4MVP @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 01:09 AM) NOT BECAUSE OF THE CREATOR. IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CAPS LOCK. ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO LET CAPS LOCK GET IN YOUR WAY OF A GREAT POST? FACE IT, OUR STARTING PITCHERS ARE NOT ALL OF THE SUDDEN GOING TO TURN IN TO 2005 PITCHERS. THAT SEASON WAS ABSOLUTE MIRACLE THAT HAPPENS ONCE IN A LIFETIME AND SOMETIMES NEVER. THE SOX' BEST INTERESTS SHOULD BE TO MOVE ALL OF THE AGING PLAYERS AND GET SOME TALENT BACK. HERE ARE SOME OF MY PROPOSALS: KONERKO TO RED SOX FOR JON LESTER THOME TO TWINS FOR MATT GARZA CREDE TO ANGELS FOR ERVIN SANTANA OR JOE SAUNDERS DYE TO METS FOR LASTINGS MILLEDGE BUEHRLE (IF HE PUTS TOGETHER A DECENT YEAR SAY 4.50 ERA) FOR A 2ND OR 3RD TIER PROSPECT GARLAND TO YANKEES FOR PHILLIP HUGH no, you're right, it was the caps locks

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 12:56 AM) Uh oh. Wite gets da snappin.. lol, it would be like saying this in Spring Training I mean, what the f***, seriously, even if you just want to mess around on a message board, you can find a funnier way to do it then this. This is just a ridiculous thread in all aspects because of the creator.

god shut the f*** up

QUOTE(greg775 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 11:48 PM) If the Sox had a horrific April and you were GM, would you be tempted to go young and tear it up? I know it's early but I think by the second week of May we're going to know if we've got a team this year or not. Memorial Day is Judgment Day 1. Independence Day is Judgment Day 2. If you don't know by July 4th, then you don't care about your team.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 10:09 PM) TRU/Balta's boy Bonds hit #735 today. He's now 20 HR away from embarrassing baseball. I would take him on my team, but that's solely because he's a great player. Everything he represents in baseball is just absolutely disgusting (other than his talent in playing baseball).

QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 08:10 PM) how can you say they arent talented? how did they go from a consesus top pitching staff pre-2006 season talent-wise to where they arent even talented anymore? i know they lost freddy but you cant tell me thats the difference. First of all, to answer your question, I don't think there's any doubt this rotation isn't as talented as it was in 2005. If there's a legitamate argument, I want to hear it. Beyond that, Garland's always had mediocre talent, just like he's always been a mediocre pitcher. The one exception to that entire rule was 2005 - I wonder what happened that year? Contreras has always had great stuff, but only has put it together from a stretch that started in August of 2005 and ended in June of 2006. Since then, and before then, he's been one of the most inconsistent pitchers in the majors. Buehrle apparently looked good in his last start, but he was horrible last year in the second half, and he hasn't pitched this year. How can you suggest firing Cooper after not having seen Buehrle start in the regular season? Vazquez has always had lights out stuff, and he hasn't pitched yet this year either. How can you fire Cooper? Danks hasn't pitched in the majors - how can you fire Cooper? So basically, I've proven how the two pitching are mediocre, and you still are trying to justify firing Cooper.............how?

QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 07:54 PM) i agree to an extent but any time you score 7 runs you should win 90-95% of those games. how many games do the twins lose when they score 7 runs? just saying If I were the hitting coach of the Yankees, they'd score 900 runs this year. Seriously. And if they had the greatest pitching coach in the history of the universe, it'd be a miracle if their team ERA was under 4.00. Talent means so much more in baseball than coaching, and right now, the White Sox rotation is just flat out not that talented and they've faced a very talented offense that has looked very good. In other words, I don't think you understand what you are arguing.

QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 06:53 PM) i dont know ask the white sox why they fired tony larussa no, ask Hawk why he did and that doesn't support YOUR argument for firing a good coach. That supports the SOX argument for firing a good coach.

QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 06:39 PM) it wouldnt be the first time a good coach/manager has been fired and it won't be the last. so why would you fire a good coach then?

Buehrle and his agent really do understand and know how to work the media. I haven't seen them say one wrong thing since the contract talks started.

its still pretty cold to be July

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:26 PM) Grady Sizemore looked practically lost against Garland, popping out all three times. And Nixon only had one hit off of Garland and that was on a cookie. And if you tell me that those 3 walks to Hafner were bad, then your nuts. I'd rather see Garland walk Hafner then see Hafner take Garland yard. Garland isn't getting paid 10+ million a year to be babied. He is getting 10 million to pitch ball games. Ozzie took the ball out of Garlands hand. Listen, I'm not saying leave him in there for even the whole inning. But Garland deserved a chance to at least face Grady. And if got Grady out easy, let him face Nixon. But if Nixon gets on, then it would be the right move to go to the pen. It was just too early to take out Garland. I really can't agree with any of this at all. I don't mind him pitching around Hafner, but on a coldass day, the ball won't carry nearly as well unless you f***ing kill it (or if the wind is blowing out, something I'm not sure of either way). And Sizemore may have looked lost, but he's an amazing hitter and he can go from being lost one AB to parking one the next - ask Matt Thornton. I think I'll take my chances with a lefty - against whom he has a career .668 OPS - as opposed to Garland, even if he looked lost, because he has and always will kill righties. Finally, I don't care how much Garland or any pitcher is getting paid, it's still April 4th and you the worst thing you can do to a pitcher is pull a Dusty Baker and make them go 120 pitches early in the season when they are not fully stretched out. That's about the easiest goddamn way to f*** up an arm in a hell of a hurry.

QUOTE(SnB @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 03:21 PM) who thought that was a good idea? lol, someone in the Jays marketing department I guess.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 03:54 PM) Excuse me, but it seems as though that is what you were insinuating. Others here in this thread did state that. After those posts were made, you stated this: What is that something else? Please explain what you mean by that something else. I'll ask you...does handedness count as talent in your mind?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:13 PM) Pitch count. Only 105 pitches. He should have been able to go to at least 120. And his control wasn't that bad after the 2nd inning. After all, 3 of his 5 walks did come to Hafner. 105 pitches in the second game of the year? And 4 walks in 5.1? Dude, no, Garland being pulled when he was pulled was the right move, there are really no questions to be asked.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:11 PM) I see. So last year everybody b****ed that Ozzie left his starters in too long when it was clear they didn't have it. Today, he lifts a guy who gave up 5 runs, 7 hits and 4 walks in 5 innings and it was the wrong move? Man, that Ozzie Guillen is just a bad, bad manager. no, I'd actually argue that pitching wise, Ozzie made all the right moves today. Offensively it was questionable, but that happens.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 05:09 PM) How so? Grady hadn't hit Garland all day, and Nixon only got one hit. You have to let him finish that inning. It was his game, not Sisco's. do you understand the terms "control" or "pitch count"?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 03:14 PM) David wells... not lying. cuz he would eat the umpire

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 03:10 PM) I'm having trouble thinking of any pitcher on our staff who I'd actually want on the mound with this strike zone, let alone in our bullpen. Find a pitcher in the majors who you'd like with this strikezone, and I'll call you a liar if you name one.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 02:39 PM) Who bats 2nd then? I like Iguchi down in the order, and Anderson hasnt proven he can hit yet. Id leave thigs as they are for now. If anything maybe KW can pull off a deal for a LF/CF who can actually hit Iguchi's been a great #2 hitter the past 2 years, and he hasn't proven any significant power at all. Why fix what's not broken? I mean seriously.

Pods is not good

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 02:21 PM) I have another fun stat that related to this point. Scott Podsednik struck out looking 47 times last season, in his ENTIRE CAREER Juan Pierre has struck out a total of 46 times looking. Juan Pierre has only struck out more than 50 times once in his entire career. Other than 2002 - his final year with the Rockies - the most times he has struck out in one year is 45. Podspwned

Frank Thomas hits his kids if they don't go to bed.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) anyone watching on mlbs new gameday....what does PFX mean? obviuosly SPD is speed and BRK is break, but what is teh PFX? was trying to figure that out myself

QUOTE(bigruss22 @ Apr 4, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) garland looking shaky now letting up a double, triple, and single, are they going for the cycle? uhh, yeah