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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) i didnt know that season was over yet???? What part of season stats dont you understand, it takes 162 games to complete a season. But recent stats are a solid indicator too. So when will you be willing to admit his #s are legit for 2005? Afgter 4 months?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) I dont even understand the comparison between Castilla and Chavez, if it was the early 90's I would understand, but as it is, Chavez is not only better offensively and defensively, but he has a larger upside. Nobody is comparing Chavez directly to Vinny. Can you read for crying out loud? I have always said I would rather have Vinny + another stud than Chavez. It is all about value (defined as performance/$). Do you even get that?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:33 PM) Castilla stats outside of Colorado AVG OBP SLG OPS 2000 .221 .254 .308 .562 2001 .260 .308 .467 .775 2002 .232 .268 .348 .616 2003 .277 .310 .461 .771 last year in Col 2004 .271 .332 .535 .867 2005 stats? They are outside Coors you know? :rolly And Cell is Coors lite you know?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:15 PM) Nats won't trade one of their "franchise players." He's a face around the city of Washington. He's staying there and probably will retire there. Castilla isn't coming here and I'm glad. And if you wait until the trading deadline, you put yourself at risk of losing more games than you would of if you traded for the player a little earlier(hence KW's theory and reasoning for not waiting until the trade deadline). You must be kidding nitetrain. If Castilla is as bad as some people here believe, how can he be their franchise player? And even if he is the face of the team, it means squat. This is a business. Come trade deadline, when the Nats realize they have no shot at beating the Braves or Marlins, they will be selling.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:18 PM) Blows away???? And who has more O around him, Chavez or Castilla? >0.60 on BA is blowing away.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) I'd rather stick with the guy thats 10 years younger. Outside of his year at Col last year, his last several seasons look sorta like Crede's. Seems like a moot aquisition to me. So you conveniently did not see this years #s? :rolly

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) His batting average also fell 45 points in May, where he managed to get 1 homer and 9 RBI... He is quickly falling back to earth and isn't worth getting. And despite that he blows away Chavez and Cruddy's #s (see AVG and OBP). And that is all despite playing on a team with very little O around him.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:09 PM) Are you seriously now going to argue that Vinny Castilla is better than Eric Chavez??? I am going to argue that Vinny/$ is better than Eric/$. It is all about value. If we get Vinny, we could still add a Wagner easily and still have the same payroll hit as getting overpaid Chavez. And if the Sox decide they want to increase their pay roll for now and in the future, then they should target a stud in the offseason

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) So are you entertaining trade offers for AJ? By asking the Nationals to trade Castilla, you're basically doing the same thing. Besides, Crede's HR production is 25% better than Castilla's I am confident the Nats will be out of it come trade deadline time. I am not saying do it now....wait until trade deadline....maybe by then Crede will get better too....who knows

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 06:41 PM) You know what I ahve been seeing you say this for months, and I thought I was sick of hearing it, but Damn it its beginning to sync in with me. i think i am with you on this. GET VINNY f***ING CASTILLA. Castilla in 2005: 49 G, 173 AB, 21 R, 50 H, 3 SB, 4 HR, 25 RBI, 0.289 AVG, 0.363 OBP, 0.451 SLG% Chavez in 2005: 51 G, 202 AB, 19 R, 44 H, 0 SB, 4 HR, 23 RBI, 0.218 AVG, 0.276 OBP, 0.317 SLG% Cruddy in 2005: 50 G, 163 AB, 20 R, 37 H, 0 SB, 5 HR, 18 RBI, 0.227 AVG, 0.286 OBP, 0.368 SLG% For all the talk regarding Chavez's speed, he has 0 SB compared to 3 for Vinny

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 07:53 PM) do you realize that we are paying Pauly the same amount as Chavez??????? With less help defensively and on the basepaths, while Chavez is more productive at the plate??? The Sox cannot afford a bad contract under any circumstance. Our team would be done if we got stuck with a ridiculous contract like Chavez if he did not perform anywhere close to his career #s We are not the Spankees who can live with a bad contract (see Giambi)

I will really be mad if we got Chavez's overpaid ass and traded BMac for him. Do any of you focking realize Chavez is making money equivalent to what New York is paying ARod (since Rangers are paying a lot of ARod's salary still) and what St Louis is paying Pujols? Why the fock would a team like ours that is fiscally constrained want to trade for such a ridiculous contract when the guy under question is focking sucking this year? Do you all realize Beane is under more pressure to improve his team than Kenny is? So play the leverage game and fock Beane when you can. What of Beane knows Chavez was on the juice previously and hence is dying to let him go to a sucker soon? It is possible that Chavez could have been influenced by Giambi (team mates always pick up stuff from other team mates) When has Chavez's overpaid ass EVER won anything? Yes, you buy low, sell high. But not if that guy will be the highest paid player on your team. If we are willing to pay that ridiculous contract that Chavez is signed to, we should instead have traded Paulie in the off season and signed Delgado instead. A far better player that would be a monster in our home park.

One reason we HAVE to get rid of Crede some time in the near future.... http://www.suntimes.com/output/sox/cst-spt-ssep01.html

GET VINNY FREAKING CASTILLA INSTEAD DAMN IT If we get Chavez, we will have to trade Fields to some one. By getting Vinny, we create a short term solution for this year and also next year and then we let Fields take over Why spend so much money on Chavez and give up BMac? I would rather have Vinny, trade Crede to the Nats in the process (they will prefer a younger 3B anyways....they have to build for the future) and get Fields ready for the pipeline. Crede is anyways gone as soon as Borass gets a chance to screw JR.

Now hopefully El Duque comes back strong, and Garland gets back to his original stuff

If Dye heats up, this team can really roll off a 6-7 game winning streak again If we can get two more such streaks, the division will be won. Hopefully Frank comes back tomorrow, and Everett sits.

Botch walks someone WHAT A SHOCKER

Man I would have never guessed. This guy is so freaking fragile. Juan Gonzalez of the Indians left the game in the top of the 1st inning due an apparent hamstring injury.

Game day on cbs.sportsline.com says Freddie left game with "apparent leg injury"

I have to now check whether the sun is setting in the east today or what Crede with a HR and Botch with 2 quick outs....wow

3-2 now Sac fly...good job AJ

Tribe ties it at 2-2 with Broussard HR

Crede Ks :urgh

Go to cbs.sportsline for gameday....that one is doing fine

Juan Gone is the wild card for the Indians...if he performs they will do well