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So if Torre keeps burning through his BP in this game, who will he pitch in the evening game when we hit their starter again?

3 pitch inning by Aardsma.....SWEET I am hoping he goes at least one more inning since we have a double header coming up tonight.....need to keep the BP ready for the night game.....with these Yankees.....pitching is the key. So will it be Aardsma for 8 and Jenks for 9?

DUMP THAT SLUG SWEENEY RIGHT NOW JUST KIDDING

GOOCH WITH SAC FLY....5-2 GOOD GUYS

CREDE

And all of this is with: Kong at 0.210 Dye at 0.200 Gooch at 0.220 AJP at 0.238 Crede at 0.221 Uribe not available for all games at 0.220 Thome not available for all games Watch out AL Central.....I see some crooked #s coming up from our O very soon.

After the game, however, Guillen raised some suspicions about the ventilation at the Metrodome. "I don't know why, in the ninth inning the flags are always blowing," Guillen said. "Check it out [Thursday]. All of sudden, the ballpark starts getting cold, a little breeze. "Come on Gardy (Twins manager Ron Gardenhire). Gardy should know about this. I have respect for Gardy." ================ This can get interesting in a hurry.....

QUOTE(RME JICO @ May 9, 2007 -> 04:02 AM) Now if avid fans can see these issues, there is no way others are not seeing the same thing (management, media, etc). It is plain as day. I really hope someone asks Ozzie why he did not walk Morneau and allowed a RHP pitch to him with 2 outs and jeff Cirillo on deck. What could he possibly say other than he trusted Masset? With first base open and two outs in the eighth, Guillen elected to pitch to Torii Hunter and Hunter delivered a game-tying single off David Aardsma that extended Hunter's hitting streak to 22 games. "I'm never going to walk the go-ahead run," Guillen said. "I don't care if it's Babe Ruth at the plate, Pete Rose, Barry Bonds. They can call me anything they want. Behind [Hunter] isn't Ozzie Guillen hitting. It's [Michael] Cuddyer. We have to respect that. [Hunter] has a lot of speed and Cuddyer can hit the ball out of the park or into the gap and can score [Hunter]. He got the hit, good for him. The only thing he can do is tie it, and he did." In the 10th, Andrew Sisco allowed a leadoff double to Luis Castillo. With one out, Masset relieved Sisco and intentionally walked Hunter before inducing Cuddyer to foul out to first. Guillen elected to have Masset pitch to Morneau, who had snapped the Twins' streak of 189 consecutive at-bats without a homer with a shot off Vazquez in the second. Morneau ended the suspense when he launched a 444-foot shot over the right-field wall. "It's not his fault," Guillen said of Masset. "It's the guys who pitched before him." http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/base...ifth/index.html

Brandon McCarthy: 2-4; 7.96 ERA; 23 ER; 4 HR; 14 BB; 13 SO Freddie Garcia (and this is in the NL): 1-2; 5.33 ERA; 15 ER; 3 HR; 6 BB; 21 SO Maybe Kenny knew what he was doing? Would these guys have helped us any this year? PS: Not trying to flame anyone here; just an observation that those trades do not look that bad now do they?>

So for those that hated the Garcia trade, was what Yankees got for RJ better or worse than what we pulled off? Comparing Freddie to RJ is not the best way of looking at it given the difference in age, type of pitcher etc. But it is better than comparing the package we got for McCarthy. So......thoughts?

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Jan 5, 2007 -> 03:15 AM) Good stuff. I kind of skimmed it, and there's some pretty funny stuff. I'll have to go back to that when I have more time. Thanks. Yeah he takes a lot of folks to task. But the guy knows his baseball stats....a lot to learn from it.

Mods - feel free to move this if you feel this does not belong in Palehose talk, but considering it is a slow offseason period, I put it here to get some interesting dialogue started on a bunch of stuff. This guy has some really cool, statistically driven arguments regarding a lot of things concerning baseball (and non baseball too in some cases) - Barry Zito, HOF'ers, MVP votes etc etc Note: Quite lengthy so will take time to go through it http://firejoemorgan.blogspot.com/ Enjoy

QUOTE(Big Hurtin @ Dec 21, 2006 -> 09:42 PM) Is Willie Harris available? I would prefer Carl Jurassic Everett

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 30, 2006 -> 04:39 AM) Where would you bat Tejada? 2nd? Pods, Tejada, Dye, Thome, Pauly, AJ, Crede, Iguchi, Anderson? That's one way to make up for some pitching loss...Pods needs to get off the team. He's out of place in a lineup like that. Where would you play him??????????? Jokes aside, I would love it if we got Tejada. What that would do is allow us to keep Crede at 3B for next 2 years, move Uribe to the bench and be the infield utility guy to play 70 games at 2B, SS and 3B (relieving Crede if he has back issues we need to worry about). Tejada would help us solve the hitting the lefty problem. I could live with a line up of: Pods Iguchi Tejada Thome Paulie Dye AJP Crede Anderson Uribe + Cintron - Super infield subs Sweeney + "I forget his name...geez"- OF subs If Anderson can play the way he played 2nd half of last year and continue his stellar D, and if Pods can simply return to what he did 2 years back, we are set to take this division with that lineup, even if we have to rotate the 5th starter between Floyd, Danks, Gio etc (hoping we do not trade one of them in the deal)

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 28, 2006 -> 10:33 PM) The solution for no fan uproar...Trade Vazquez. Frees up a lot of money, and you can offer an extension to Buehrle and be able to afford it with the young guys moving in. Makes sense if the Mets are interested. Kenny has a huge hard on for Vazquez....

QUOTE(R.J. @ Dec 28, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) Either the Mets sulk away and sign a guy like Jeff Weaver or they go out armed and prepared to make a crazy trade for an upper tier pitcher. If they're willing to part with an assortment of Milledge, Pelfrey, Heilman, and/or Humber, let's keep the pitching sale a-goin'. Weaver should get the same $ as Lilly and that Ex Seattle guy right?

I actually think you simply let Buerhle pitch next year. So what, let him walk after next year. This is exactly why we have all these prospects lined up....so that someone can step up the year after next. And if by chance we are out of it by the trade deadline, then trade him for whatever we can get to the highest bidder. By making Buerhle pitch next year for us, he will be motivated to pitch well given the pay day is around the corner. And we get a solid 2007 season (playoff bound?) and have a very solid nucleus for pitching even if 50% of these prospects pan out by the year after. What I would like to see the Sox do instead now is see if they can sign some low risk high reward kinda pitcher from the market. I am talking something like the Loaiza deal from some years back. Those kinda signings are huge in a market like this.

There is nothing wrong with getting a RJ or a Roger Clemens for a year while we figure out which of these prospects will be legit, with no pressure on them. Also, helps us build depth in case one of our 4 vet pitchers suffer any injuries. I would have been ok if the Sox had gone after a Maddux too for a year.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Dec 26, 2006 -> 04:32 AM) Crede is a big name. The Sox could be the team suppling little names and acquiring a big name. KW thinks big and a nice way to remind the fans that the plan still is to win the World Series in 2007 would be to add salary to bring in a star if the deal was right. The way I read it was that there were 3 BIG names involved and hence, I am assuming, we are not involved. I am not sure I call Crede big. Maybe it is a ARod, Manny and Tejada 3 way swap (JUST KIDDING).

QUOTE(kevo880 @ Dec 24, 2006 -> 08:39 AM) Exactly, it's not that I'm not happy with Danks and Masset because I have wanted Danks all long. It's that I feel like we should have gotten at least a proven player for a guy like BMac. There was so much hype for him the last two years about getting him into the rotation and then we make a trade to put him in there and we trade him and now have a hole at the #5 spot. I realize it's not opening day yet and KW could still make another move to fill the spot in the roatation or another hole in the line-up but moving McCarthey is the one thing I wouldn't of done this offseason. That is the real problem. If only people would stop hyping things so much, they would be able to see the big picture. This was the same problem with Jon Garland and this board (and everywhere else). Everyone wanted to cut/trade Garland when he was going through his growing pains because he was not the next Cy Young they all had built him to be. Not one understood how young he was and how, given his salary, he was providing us great value as our 3rd or 4th or 5th starter in most of those years.

We really do not have any BIG name that we can give up, so I doubt we are involved. I am assuming we are not giving up Buerhle which is how I see it now that we traded BMac

Maybe bring Widger back?

QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Dec 12, 2006 -> 05:05 AM) it seems like everytime theres stories/rumors written about crede, it always mentions about how the sox are hesitant to resign him becuase of his back. why do they even mention it, they should down play it shouldn they? im sure it takes interest away from teams trying to trade for him Melissa I do not see the Sox saying anything about Crede's back. All I see is a comment from the journalist - Mark Gonzalez. So you cannot blame the Sox for this. Writers write what they want. Thye do not care if it hurts the White Sox's chances to trade Crede.

This blurb from mlb.com has the salary # for Baldelli's contract. Very attractive if we can swing a deal for him. ============== Braves: A team source has indicated that the Braves are actively attempting to complete a trade for Tampa Bay's Rocco Baldelli. Atlanta is very reluctant to include left-handed starter Chuck James in any deal, but would be willing to provide top catching prospect Jarrod Saltalamacchia. The Devil Rays have said that they aren't interested in Adam LaRoche, and are seeking non-arbitration-eligible players. The Devil Rays are believed to have said they want James in any potential deal for Baldelli, but having just traded left-hander Horacio Ramirez to Seattle, the Braves are concerned about depth in their starting rotation. At the same time, they believe James is capable of being a 15-game winner in 2007. The 25-year-old southpaw won 11 of the 18 starts he made last season, and surrendered two earned runs or fewer in nine of his final 11 starts. Next season, Baldelli, 25, would serve as Atlanta's leadoff hitter and everyday left fielder. If Andruw Jones makes his expected departure after 2007, Baldelli would then become the club's starting center fielder. Baldelli's contract is an attractive one. He'll make just $750,000 this year, which would allow him to fit within Atlanta's tight financial constraints. His contract includes escalators if he makes 600 plate appearances in a season. But even if he were to reach that mark in 2007, his salary would be just $2.5 million. In 2008, his salary wouldn't rise any higher than $4 million. The final three years (2009-2011) in his current contract are all club options. The option for 2011 is just $9 million.