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And the Astros still didn’t even suffer for offering those what turned out to be bad early extensions for Singleton, Grossman, Chris Johnson, maybe Jason Castro....not remembering Matt Dominguez so clearly. Or pressuring the young players to sign them in order to get a promotion to the big league team. This was just FIVE short years ago, and of course they also got Altuve to extend as well. “The deal, which is the first of its kind for a player with zero major league service time, is guaranteed for five years and $10M, according to Passan. It also includes three club options for $2.5M in 2019, $5M in 2020 and $13M in 2020, along with $5M in bonuses and awards that could raise its valye to $35M. As Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com notes, Singleton is giving up a free agent year at $13M, and will still be able to hit the free agent market when he is 30 years old. Singleton, who was originally drafted by the Phillies in the eighth round of the 2009 draft, joined the Astros' organization in the Hunter Pence trade in 2011 and has been widely-regarded as one of the best first base prospects in all of baseball. Before hitting .267 with 14 HR and 43 RBI in 54 games with Triple-A Oklahoma City this season, he was ranked by Baseball America as the 82nd best prospect in the league, ranking among the league's top 100 prospects for the fourth straight season. The Astros are known to be working on long-term extensions with many of their young players, and also have made offers to Robbie Grossman, Matt Dominguez, and rookie George Springer. The offer to Springer, who was regarded as a top prospect before his promotion, would have guaranteed him $7.6M over four years with three team options that could raise its value to $23M, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com.That offer is strikingly similar in terms of average annual value to the one that Singleton has agreed to, guaranteeing $1.9M per year on the guaranteed portion of the contract compared to the $2M that Singleton will receive.” https://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/6/2/5772700/astros-promote-jon-singleton-sign-him-to-long-term-contract-extension

Amazing how similar the #1 farm systems in baseball (1999/2000) and 2017/18 are eerily reminiscent in terms of the spate of injuries decimating the ranks. Does that also mean we’re only five years away...2023 World Series? And where’s our Mark Buehrle this time around?

Then doubly lucky we traded Loiaza for Contreras when we did...but didn’t one or two of the 2005 team have a PEDs allegation or two, maybe Ozuna, in their background? Aaron Rowand was suspected by some because of the way his body broke down, but his style play ended up being the most destructive factor. We’ve had our share of guys like Myers or Wilfredo Cordero. D’Angelo Jimenez was apparently one of the worst character guys of all-time, fwiw. Cheating off the field vs. PEDs or domestic abuse/violence are slightly different situations, though.

Yoan Moncada was the #1 prospect in all of of baseball entering 2017. He has four tools (at least 3 1/2 because it’s more raw power than consistent in game power), Jimenez has just 2, and he doesn’t walk nearly as much as Thomas. Well, almost no one does. Jimenez is stuck behind Guerrero and Tatis.

Unless you think Palka is part of the future as a LH platoon DH. Theyre also taking at bats away from Rondon. Those are the two most affected, obviously Delmonico as well.

Wilson Betemit and Ryan Sweeney agree with you.

Not bad.

Why $120 million when it was $125-135 million a decade ago? The White Sox are the only team that can magically compete in the face of inflation and have declining payrolls with higher/increasing win totals? Couldn’t Hahn’s son simply pick 5-6 random FA’s out of a hat and spend $45 million more effectively just by random probability?

So we should now go by BRef numbers only when it suits our argument? It is idiotic to give that contract to a two tool player but not a true five tool one that can consistently put up 4-6 fWAR seasons at a minimum. If he plays negative defense (I’ve watched him quite a bit this spring, he’s made one nice play...but had to dive because of his lack of range), and doesn’t have much an arm and can’t run that well, why do we have to make this offer two full years of big league before the greatest player in baseball history got an extension offer from the Angels? What’s the rush, all of a sudden?

But this is just ONE year, not 2-3. And why wouldn’t they have been convinced to offer the same deal to Moncada as well? Simply because the $32 million in the bank made it unpalatable? Shouldnt they have considered that before acquiring Moncada and Robert, that they would be much less desperate to extend with a life-altering deal of guaranteed extension dollars?

You might want to save that to copy and paste on your online draft/clipboard...this won’t be the last occasion to break it out.

The main player he and Alonso are blocking is Palka...after Jimenez comes up for LF.

I would honestly rather run Fulmer and Hansen out there on a wing and a prayer and hope one of them clicks. Even Covey and Banuelos, and allocate that extra money to Machado. Better yet, G. Gonzalez for $5-6 million, even $7.5 for Gio to mentor Rodon as a fellow lefty. Why did we need two quasi closers in Herrera and Colome when we already had Jones and Fry...not to mention our minor league relief depth was supposedly our single “market niche” or advantage over other teams going into this offseason.

Check back with us when Eloy puts up a 10 fWAR...or sells more jerseys than any player in the history of professional sports the first day. Will they even carry Jimenez jerseys after getting burned on Moncada, Rodon and Giolito? He might need to first hit 30+ homers with a .275 to .280 average before they commit to a mass jersey production run.

Why not just give another $75-85 million to Moncada so we can control him through 2024 instead of 2023...? Would anyone be elated NOW if we had given a similar deal to Moncada in 2017? Or Giolito? Or Kopech? I think or at least hope....certainly not.

Fine, go ahead and spend $100 million and another $9 million for 1.1 fWAR Nova and $9 million for 0.7 Alonso while giving away 2.1 fWAR Narvaez with four remaining years of control and 27 year old Avi Garcia.

Not in their first years. Anderson was the earliest. We should just wait for Lindor after 2021...then finally win AL Central in 2022. Trout and Posey after 2 years. Freeman 3 years. Braun and Kyle Seager 3 years. Those are the only ones with under 3 years of service to get $100 million+ extensions. The White Sox are fucking nuts. Wil Myers 3+, CarGo 2+. Justin Morneau, 3+ for 6 years and $80 million in 2008, Hanley Ramirez, 2+ years of service, 6 year deal for $70 million in 2008, Alex Rios (yes, a reminder of what can go wrong) $70 million over seven years after 3 years of service, Mike Mikolas after 2+ years, 4/$68 million. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/extension tracker

He's most definitely not easing up on Reinsdorf...quite the opposite, actually.

Because they had no clue SD was going to blow their deal out of the water in terms of guaranteed dollars...not enough due diligence of competitor, relationship between Machado and Tatis, Jr., their shared agent, etc.

$68.5 million nope, it's Abreu original deal in 2014.

They officially agreed at the two hour lunch with the Padres.

Then we can trade him for the equivalent of Cordell...or Leury.

What other above average tools does Jimenez have? 2/5. Hit for average. Hit for power. Average to below average fielder (see Avi), below average arm (maybe "par" for LF) and slow foot speed...which will likely slow down over time as he puts on more weight.

I can't even imagine most White Sox fans would think this was a good idea...and simply PR spin to show that they're not cheap and are suddenly willing to dole out "long-term" contracts. Just idiotic for a player who has to hit like Manny Ramirez in LF to be really valuable in today's game.

White Sox are NOT cheap, they're now too generous to totally unproven players...THANK GOD they didn't sign Moncada to this type of deal at some point early in the 2017 minor league season when he was tearing up Charlotte.