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Padres=debt load of 10%, including stadium improvements they have to pay for Hosmer and Myers already on the books $25 million in BAD/TERRIBLE contracts sitting on the books from the 2014-15 cycle Yet they STILL COULDN'T GET IT DONE, with EVERYTHING in their freaking favor. PATHETIC. If only Hahn would resign, but then we'd still have JR as owner until.....sigh.

They better hope Narvaez has already peaked, because that move will look increasingly dumb as well. Basically, they spent $45 million on garbage in the last two months only to come up $20 million short? That's ridiculously shortsighted. Realistically, they never wanted to offer over $250 million for Machado, and yet they knew all along the Phillies were out there just waiting to spend $320-340 million on Bryce Harper after Machado signed. What a colossal waste of time, energy and resources. We said ALL ALONG THIS ENTIRE OFFSEASON that Machado would get around $300 million and Harper should be in the neighborhood of $350 million (looks like it could now end up in the middle somewhere.) If we all can GET IT, why can't this front office? Just feel sorry for Jay/Alonso...they're going to be bearing the brunt of it, when it should be JR/HAHN/Williams for having STILL misread this market so badly to think NOBODY out of about 20 other teams could possible see the value in signing a franchise cornerstone 3B at age 26 (even with a few warts on Machado from last year, but not performance-wise.)

That was the case before we added $45 million of crap nobody will even remember 5 years from now...assuming the franchise is still in Chicago.

The same way we lucked into Abreu, when none of those large market teams needed a 1B. We beat the Rockies, I guess. So yay to them?

See Hosmer, Myers and the future Tatis, Jr., extension. They couldn’t even keep their NFL franchise, and they already have three deals bigger than a supposed large market club. Our second biggest of all time is John More Famous Now for His Wife Danks.

There should be no smiles from this front office today. But maybe if you didn’t buy a Starbucks every day there would have been enough money left over for Machado...

And always finishes in a close second...great rallying cry, there. We were almost good enough, darn it.

“The White Sox are also said to be considering including starter Erik Johnson (4.50 ERA in 98 career innings) in a potential deal along with lower level prospects. Logically, the higher quality the prospects, the larger chunk of Shields salary will be paid by the Padres in any deal. One thing the White Sox would be getting is a very durable pitcher.” Completely had forgotten about Turner until now... This whole day is LOL.

That will surely boost morale at the ghost town formerly known as US Cellular.

We have been blown out of the water now by the Machado and Hosmer deals, and Myers is probably pretty close, too. Then there’s Tatis coming, lol. Might be 4 before all is said and done....we can never call the White Sox a large market organization again. Let’s not forget our second biggest deal in history is JohnFreaking Danks, lol. I’m pretty sure Buehrle, Konerko or Magglio are in a close battle for third.

Yeah, the ones who were in their primes about 5-7 years earlier...

With the $20 million saved on Alonso, Jay and Castillo...we would have had enough to get it done. Complete buffoons.

It’s actually around average, but not high impact guys (except one). Semien, Devenski, Tatis, Eduardo Escobar, Jose Martinez, Flowers, Phegley, Frankie Montas, (well, close enough), we can get some credit for Narvaez I suppose.

We’ve even lost 45 cents over the last decade...”we can’t spend a dollar if we only have 50 cents”. Thanks JR, KW and Hahn for somehow managing run this franchise into the ground when your competition is all small market teams, lol.

The curse of Carlos Quentin’s 2008 ending returns...

True, but now the fanbase is really in prove it mode. Enthusiasm/morale low, low energy at games...they’ll have to win something before most casual Sox fans will ever come back out. Even then the storyline will be...well, the Yankees, Red Sox, Astros and Angels are just going to crush our small market dreams. Or the Rays and A’s can run rings around us in terms of cost effectiveness on the flip side.

If anyone can now manage to double down on Bryce Harper against the wall of skepticism, more power to that poster!!!

But at least a lifetime of memories. The greatest team/s of that generation...over a nearly 15 year period. We got Jordan on Birmingham and Bo Jackson without a hip on the other side of that equation...and yet another great young manager who got away in Francona.

We have already done that with about $45 million spent on 4-5 fWAR of veteran floatsam.

New board name might be a start, lol. Harper-related or no faith left to believe he’s NOT pre-destined for the Phillies?

I didn’t have the heart to resurrect my Tatis, Jr., thread on a day like today...it’s already bad enough without seeing those two together. Thst said, they have a long and winding road to even near the Dodgers’ stranglehold position on the NL West. Just wish the NBC Sports Chicago News could show split screen images of the White Sox and Padres ticket offices about right now. The fans have never been out first since Bill Veeck was owner, even though he was basically bankrupt, he still cared more about the fan experience and the players than modern owners ever will.

But Narvaez is gone...and Jay is getting more time in the OF...and Engel is, never mind. We suck.

One thing’s for certain. Nick Madrigal has always played with a chip on his shoulder. They’re now the underdogs of all underdogs fighting for respectability. Southside Sox Blue Collar. It has never been the White Sox way to have nice shiny things for too long, anyway, and they still only have to wait for the Indians to self-implode in order to make the playoffs. And Machado’s offensive numbers are going to go way down at PetCo. The last time Preller went crazy in FA, 2014-15, he signed a worst group of players than even Rick Hahn is capable of assembling.

BUMPED for venting purposes...

No way. Harper or bust. But they’ll probably overpay a fading Keuchel for 3-4 years at a “value price point” and he'll somehow become another James Shields of Sox lore.