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Compare and contrast that to the aggressive moves the Padres have been making...they still might not catch the a Dodgers until 2021-22, but they’re getting closer and closer...especially with Kershaw falling off. But they still have so much talent in LA on the offensive side.

You think the Tigers would have had that dominating decade-long run if Miguel Cabrera and Torii Hunter were on the White Sox?

Nope, there won’t be anyone and Brantley will be too old. Has to come internally or via trade. They need to get a break, like Stiever becoming a lockdown closer so that they don’t have to go out and spend $15-20 million to fill that spot externally.

Negating the roster and making it harder for the Sox are two entirely different things. It only took Kenny Rogers vs. a parade of 5th starters that were the equivalent of Mazara in 2003 and Thome over Kotsay in 2010 to give the Twins two more AL Central titles. One player.

To deny he has been a really dangerous hitter the last two seasons after putting up relatively pedestrian numbers earlier in his career...fine, but what FA will ever be available at an attractive rate that’s not a rebound guy like Gennett or Dickerson or Calhoun? You should never buy too high on career years in FA, as you’re always paying diminishing returns for past production...but expecting Mazara to break out isn’t exactly Moneyball Version 2.0, either.

That’s not going to happen, either. A platoon outfielder shouldn’t be getting any more than Castellanos or Ozuna. That said, if those two guys are off the market, an aging Brantley and Pederson will be the only non-trade options. And Brantleys not especially well-suited for RF, either.

The real problem isn’t Mazara. It’s pitching. If Minnesota makes the right move for Bumgarner, Ryu or Keuchel...it’s going to make it that much more difficult to overtake them before 2022/23. Luckily, the Dodgers and Angels will likely take 2 of those 3.

My cousin who lives in Plano and watches nearly every Rangers’ game had this to say. Rangers are a mess and have been since the blowup with Nolan Ryan and the new ownership that doesn't appear to have any money. Mazara will be an All-Star for the Sox. Another awful trade by Daniels. How much longer will they stay with this guy? His greatest trade was trading a HOFer for Andrus.

Can’t wait until Betts and/or Springer sign extensions. Then the 2021 FA market will be even more garbage. I guess it would be worse to have a 100ish win team like the Twins and do little to improve it.(Of course, that means they end up signing Ryu, Keuchel or Bumgarner...all decent moves for that stadium.)

Sounds exactly like Brian Anderson. Talent got him to the big leagues quickly...but never capitalized on numerous opportunities given. Mazara got passed up by Willie Calhoun. Non-tender candidate with four lefties between corner OF and DH.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2018/6/4/18446775/white-sox-select-oklahoma-outfielder-steele-walker-in-second-round No wonder Nick Hostetler lost his job...errr...was promoted to evaluating MLB and MILB talent.

No, we’ll get some Stiever is the closer in waiting excuse for not spending on a more established reliever after wasting so much money on Herrera.

They never would have done this had they signed Wheeler. And had they signed Wheeler, the reaction to Mazara would be indifference at worst and mild surprise they didn’t at least try for Dickerson, Calhoun, Puig, Gardner or even Avi (any of them on a one year deal with an option for 2021.) Walker would still be around and likely have increased value at mid season or next year as trade bait.

White Sox will never assume that type of financial responsibility on a clearly declining pitcher...they will instead insist on getting a subsidy back and sell off more prospects to mitigate financial risk, leaving the minor league system barren in the process.

Bumgarner and Ryu will end up elsewhere (see LAA/LAD or Tex)...Keuchel and 2 day old Krispy Kreme’s are the only options unless we want to empty out the remainder of the farm system for Blake Snell.

Yes, we shouldn’t have loved Escobar, Semien, Tatis, Jr., Montas, Narvaez, etc. We don’t need any more Top 100 MLB players at this point.

He walks in two years because of FA and Boras...

Assuming the contract of Alex Rios would be the move of a decade with this front office. Because we desperately need someone who will be reliably productive when needed. Rios did that every year but one, which Greg775 will never forgive him for to this day.

By this rationale, we should never worry about preserving any draft pick besides Top Ten in the first round...

Why not just use Leury...? They’re not going to give Souza the opportunity he will receive to start on other teams in the bottom 8-10 in MLB. And they’re not going to pay him like a projected starter. We should have just stuck Villar, Dickerson or Gennett out there if this was their best reactionary plan.

Why do we continually draft these “refined college hitters” in the first 3-5 rounds if their upside is always limited? Since we’re dismissing Walker, it practically is guaranteeing he’ll one day be a big league regular with the help of coaching in another organization. And there were at least five players who could have doubled or tripled that fWAR at no trade cost...not counting Ozuna and Castellanos, since those guys are obvious. Finally, there’s yet one more avenue closed off on trading for a starting pitcher.

They have to add at least one scrap heap pitcher, but the odds on anyone but Keuchel are slim and none at this point. We’ve gone from Wheeler and Castellanos/Ozuna (maybe even two hitters) to maybe Keuchel (at best, a poor man’s Buehrle) and Mazara, of course people are going to be pissed off...especially if they refuse to spend money on decent starting pitching and trade Vaughn, Madrigal or Lopez instead.

At least Polanco has shown the ability to at least put up three 2+ fWAR seasons and a 7.8 over his career.

Luis Robert is the only example of doing anything differently.

If only he could continue to face Sox pitchers at GRF, he’d totally be an All-Star. Alas...not the case going forward. You walked right into that one.