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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 12:37 AM) Cmon Caulfield. Proof is in the number of rings. Ozzie has a WS ring. We fans probably will never celebrate another WS title in our lifetimes. It's that difficult to complete the deal when you are a small market team. You can make a poll. Guillen will get 5-10% of the vote. Al Lopez will win. You keep forgetting that there was only one playoff team from the AL each year, and it was invariably the Yankees at that time. He (Lopez) was much more consistent...almost all of his teams were good to near great. Guillen had 2007, 2009 and 2011 on his record, and the ignominious way in which he parted way with JR, one of his biggest cheerleaders. Ask Lip to rate them 1-5. He's also the only manager who spent the majority of his career managing the Sox in the HoF. Lip might even go with LaRussa or Tanner being better based on their accomplishments after leaving Chicago. http://www.hardballtimes.com/10-things-i-d...t-chuck-tanner/

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) Here's a good one. Our politicians lie way too much and I'm getting sick of it. Why is everybody so hooked on "Republican" or "Democrat" pride? Folks, all these bastards on both sides do is lie, lie, lie. How are the Obama apologists going to explain this one?? I know, they'll blame the messenger or simply say, "Who cares? We have a better option than that moron Trump." I think everybody should care and impeach every one of these Presidents ASAP. There has to be some accountability for lying. I'm ready for free college education and healthcare for all. We're getting nothing out of our economic lives right now in America unless we're born into wealth. America is only for the 1 percenters right now and I'm sick of it. Republican, Democrat, who the f*** cares?? They are all corrupt. Just fix it!!! http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/state-departm...soners-release/ Why don't you run for office, school board, city council, state rep, etc.? It's our responsibility as citizens to be part of the solution, right?

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/history/managers.jsp Al Lopez and Fielder Jones say hello. That said, Guillen is definitely Top 3-4.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) Hey, many Sox fans on this board wanted a professional, quiet manager to run the club instead of the effective, yet outspoken Ozzie. People in some respects are getting what they asked for. Not nearly as effective in 2007, 2009 or 2011 especially...that said, at least every other year the team was entertaining at least. Maybe if he hadn't been drunk half the time, we really would have seen what he could do were he 100% serious like his first 2-3 years as a manager. As time went by, it became more about him and his family and less about the team.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) 8 years? What are you talking about? Most of those years had badass rosters that looked competitve on paper. "Hey Paulie, screw your prime and your last good years, we're going to get some prospects. Piss off you old goateed-sometimes fool." GMAB Would a salesman who had tons of potential prospects, always talked the talk and yet invariably failed to close out those deals or meet his quotas (bare minimum, we're not talking outstanding or superior performance) continue to have his contract renewed unless he was the son or son in law of the owner?

Red Sox and Rangers would definitely be lesser matches in the offseason...if anything, Boston will try to get something useful back for Shaw/Ramirez and fit Moncada and Encarnacion into that juggernaut while figuring out how to rehab Sandoval into something useful. LAD....but that's only if Kershaw is sidelined well into 2017.

Leury kind of hearkens back to those halycon days when Micah, Carlos Sanchez and Saladino were seen as the future 2b. Saladino MIGHT still be a regular at some point, but the problem was you needed to combine all three of those guys into one to get a truly useful starting player at the big league level.

Wonder how many of the announced 20,011 were actually there...must have been a lot of those tickets sold in late April and early May.

On the plus side, a theoretical Phillies' win over the Cards pulls the Sox into the tenth and last protected pick by percentage points.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) There is a difference between a typo and not getting names right. Especially when you find it inexcusable for others to get names wrong. The fact that I'm not getting paid to get the names right...are the mods now paying you a stipend that we don't know about?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) It is Junior Guerra. For someone who still give KW crap for Berry/Barry you would think you would be better with names. He is also on the DL Okay Lawrence Halomes Barojas.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) Preller is awesome. He is paying Shields more than Hahn. At least they have a clear direction now that the meddling owner has realized retooling on the fly doesn't work too well in the face ofbthe LAD and SFG financial juggernauts...

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) You just mentioned 11injuries It is a huge number on a team that is banking on leading the league in healh, and have zero depth. And the unforgettable Matt Davidson... And you honestly think they'll blame injuries, their own lack of any quality depth, the Shields debacle and extend Ventura at the end of the year with those three excuses?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:45 PM) Plus, Preller went up against Rick Hahn mano a mano, and Hahn was obliterated in the trade. A complete mismatch, like Hahn is against most GMs. And I would be shocked if the farm is rated any higher than #25 in December. Except for Erik Johnson, yeah. Hahn went into desperation mode because of the early hot start. Danks would probably be putting up the same numbers and quietly exiting if they went out 10-23, or even retired before the end of the season. If you add Javy Guerra, Ian Desmond and a decent veteran reliever and part time catcher to this roster, it's a very competitive team. Why they have stuck with Matt Albers this long after running off Danks, Latos and Rollins is completely beyond me.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play. That makes zero sense when Schneider has led MLB training staffs in recent years in terms of avoiding DL stints. If injuries to guys like Coats, Kevan Smith, Tilson, Avi Garcia, Lawrie, Petricka and Putnam are lethal...you just have zero quality depth. Gonzalez and Rodon, same thing. If anything, the Austin Jackson injury hurt the most because that forced a lousy bat AND defender into the lineup. Avila simply exposed Navarro. Every contending team in the AL Central has gone through worse. Even the Tigers lost JD Martinez for almost three months. And if the team actually had anything to play for, you wouldn't see so many guys missing time imo.

It's prett pathetic that your greatest hope and aspiration as a Sox fan is that guys like Dunn, Danks, LaRoche and Shields would simply retire or at least be kidnapped by peaceful politically-correct rebel groups...

Greg would trade for LaRussa the manager and Stewart the pitching coach... Hopefully this is franchise rock bottom with Fulmer also getting ripped to shreds in AAA.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) It really might be the most inept front office in baseball right now. Nothing they have done during this season has made sense. Stewart/LaRussa...we haven't stumbled to that level (yet) with Miller trade and signing Greinke too late in his career. Preller is now extremely well-supported in SD for his course correction.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) That was a trade that had to be made according to you. Now you can't even let it go. Change your name to Trump. Filibuster? And yeah, it had to be made because the White Sox essentially gave up on him...that was pretty obvious. Just like they did with Micah Johnson after hyping him heavily for two plus years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:23 AM) So has Jose Abreu. Most objective observers consider him a 1B in the same way Frank Thomas was one...it's one of the main reasons he's been at negative overall value for most of the season, and why his trade value is down dramatically. He has to be an 850-875 ops hitter to justify that below average defensive. And Semien has almost doubled Abreu in homers from a "defense first" position, although the overall offensive output from SS has improved dramatically over the last two years due to the injection of young talent at that position around the majors.

A league average SS or better than average 2b is worth a lot more than a short reliever unless that reliever is close to elite (Miller, Herrera, Betances, etc.)

The Cubs didn't have a hand in that one...

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) Hell yea. Screw the service time argument, it's not relevant. The Sox plan to contend next season so let's see if Mr. Fireballs can anchor a critical spot in the pen. Looking like the Samardzija for Burdi trade might be a winner. Sure, if he can give you 3+ war per season like Semien...how it can already be looking like a winner when he hasn't thrown a single major league pitch is pretty farfetched.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/08/18/dave-s...&yptr=yahoo There seems to be a more incompetent (sorry, Greg) front office than ours...AZ, with Dave Stewart and Tony LaRussa. Keith Law apparently is going to war with them, and it's happened before with him and TLR. http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/tony-l...inst-keith-law/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0818-story.html And Ranaudo gets to make another start...