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LOL. The White Sox are really the joke of the league when Ortiz is clowning like that. Somewhere in KS, Greg775 is applauding and wondering why LaRoche and Dunn couldn't do that occasionally.

Fortunate strike call. Guess the ump was tired of that at-bat.

Gonzalez is 140th out of 140 total in BAA in balls put in play. .388. That's really quite hard to do.

Bogaerts already has 31 multi-hit games. If you took Eaton/Abreu out of the equation, you might not total that up for the entire White Sox line-up.

The book on Miguel Gonzalez: He's reluctant to throw too many strikes in the zone because he doesn't want to get hit hard, lol.

White Sox actually have a chance in this one now if they can score these two runners.

Abreu #12 in the majors in terms of swinging at pitches outside of the strike zone. 43%. Only 3 k's in his last 42 plate appearances against RHP. E-5, should have been a tailor-made double play ball. White Sox have to take advantage here. HAVE TO.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 04:57 PM) In other words, you will tell us what you would have done now sometime down the road. LOL. Okay, tell us what you would do. I already said I would start listening on Cabrera, Robertson, Lawrie, Jones (unless they want to keep him as the closer waiting for Burdi to arrive) and Avi Garcia. Trading Frazier, Shields and Abreu now makes zero sense. I wouldn't be adding a bat unless it was simply taking on salary, and it would be a player whose contract was expiring this season or no later than 2017.

Best not to expect too much from those four "lesser" prospects you listed. We can list 10-15 guys, doesn't necessarily make them major league caliber. Certainly not penciling them into future line-ups.

http://theundefeated.com/features/stop-hating-lebron-enough/ Stop Hating On Lebron, Enough!

Oh, so at least he hasn't totally lost his sanity, just yet.

That's just idiotic. Give him the infamous vote of confidence or say "we'll reassess at the end of the season," even if you have no intention of doing so. Making no move to either support or criticize him basically means you're leaving him out to dry. Stand by him or fire him. The White Sox have had 4 1/2 freaking years to figure out if he's the right guy for the job or not. If they can't do that STILL, then maybe those doing the assessment need to go, too.

Yeah, SD is really screwed being in the same division as LAD and SFG. The AL Central doesn't have two huge revenue producing machines like that...even AZ/Colorado are much more well-off than teams like the Indians/Twins/White Sox in terms of attendance/revenue generation. KC and Cincy, as far as I can recall, are the two smallest media markets in the US. All things considered, it's pretty remarkable the Padres are pretty significantly outdrawing the Orioles and Mariners this season.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) Because if Shields goes on a run of 5 or 6 solid starts, you could remove him at the deadline. It would be absolutely an awful idea to move him at this second or dump him at this second. And the best way to do this is by throwing him Thursday at Fenway against the best offense in baseball? Without having made any mechanical changes? Seems suicidal or masochistic at best. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/batvspitch/_...4/james-shields Current Boston hitters are OPSing at an 848 clip against him. And that's before he suddenly became damaged goods, when he was doing well with the Rays and fairly well with the Royals.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) I don't know how to post these things right, but here's Hahn talking about the "certain specific risks" they knew about when acquiring Shields. LOL. More lawyer speak. Risk mitigation, blah blah. CYA.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/its-time-fo...-james-shields/ Dave Cameron in mid 2014 on why the Royals should (have) trade(d) James Shields. Funny how so many things can change in a season. But it's not like baseball writers weren't already considering his decline two years ago, let alone in 2016. The odds of the Royals re-signing Shields this winter are slim. Realistically, given their payroll, they shouldn’t even really be that interested in keeping him for his decline years. And other teams will pay more in value than the draft pick they’d get next summer by making him a qualifying offer and letting him leave via free agency. The last part applies to the Shark situation very aptly as well. Shields projects for about +1.4 WAR over the rest of the season, which is not quite Price-like but is far ahead of guys like Colon or Burnett. Because Jeff ran the numbers on a Price trade last week, we can crib off his data and estimate that acquiring Shields would lead to something like a 10% boost in playoff odds for nearly 10 teams. Even if we cross out the Indians, Yankees, and either the Mariners or Cardinals — assuming one of the two pays the David Price tax — then there’s still a half dozen teams who could significantly benefit from having Shields in their rotation for the final two months, plus a much more likely playoff series. Maybe 10% doesn’t sound like a lot, but for many of these teams, the addition could easily end up being the difference between playing in the Wild Card game and getting a pass through to the division series. For a team like the Orioles or Blue Jays, they have a real chance to host a couple of postseason games, and reap the the revenues that come along with a playoff berth. Some estimates have the revenue gains associated with a postseason run at between $20 and $70 million, depending on how deep a team goes and how much the playoff push can invigorate a fan base.

Depends on how the organization sees Fulmer and Adams going forward. Nobody is untouchable if another team is willing to give you more than you feel they're inherently worth...especially with the injury risk with pitchers being so high. Theoretically, you'd say that Anderson and Rodon are it....but, once again, what are the odds of getting max value from Eaton/Q/Sale? Trading Frazier and Abreu at this point (eroded values) doesn't make sense. That leaves you working on the periphery again....clearing out Cabrera, Robertson, possibly Jones (or you make him your closer and/or wait for Burdi) and Lawrie. These aren't going to net you much better prospects than Avi/Davidson, but are more done for salary relief purposes. Just for symbolic purposes, they need to move on from Avi as well. The problem is that once you've traded Cabrera/Robertson/Jones/Lawrie/Garcia, then what's the point having your core intact if that core is going to have to wait at least 1-2 years for those newly-acquired players just to get their feet wet in the big leagues? So it all depends on how advanced the prospects are...if the best you can get is players that are in High A ball this season, then there's really little advantage to holding Sale/Q/Eaton because by the time they've established themselves as big leaguers, one of those players is either hurt/diminished in value or the window's already starting to close with their contracts.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) He is still massively valuable, despite what his number look like right now. But his value is eroded by his defensive issues...he really should be limited to the AL. I can't imagine most playoff-aspiring teams would stick him out there in the field unless they had no better option (maybe a hitter was limited to DH because of lingering injuries). And the next three years, his contract becomes more expensive/arbitration. Let's just put it this way...if he was on another team, would you trade Carson Fulmer or Zack Collins for him? Wouldn't that be an overpay if you could get similar production from a Pearce at a fraction of the cost?

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) Here's the thing and I think this pretty much describes why I have such disdain for rebuilds in baseball is because people act like they are entitled to something good happening. Just because you wasted years of baseball and intentionally tanked does not mean you have anything good coming your way. Basically if the team does go down that path they better make sure the correct people are in charge. Or everyone is going to suffer for a very long time. Just ask the Edmonton Oilers or the Kansas City Royals before they finally broke through after a few decades. It's conflicting a little. There's not much fans can do about it right now except jump ship which I would recommend for teams struggling down this path. But in the future like I've suggested there should be punishments for just this long period of ineptitude. The Minnesota Twins would be another good example. If Buxton and Berrios don't make it, then it's going to be very challenging....Sano can hit, but he can't field, so that doesn't provide a whole lot of surplus value right there. They've been rebuilding since 2011-12, essentially. Padres. Marlins. A's, although Beane has had some success again recently until these past two years when they "went for it" in mid 2014 and came up short in the WC game and had to tear apart that team. Guess we'll see how it works in PHA, Cincy, Colorado, SD and Atlanta. Colorado and SD, it's hard to say exactly what they are doing, same with Milwaukee. Otoh, the Mets were becoming so good at developing young pitching they could afford to spin off Fulmer for Cespedes. Fulmer is probably the third or fourth best pitcher in the AL Central now to Danny Salazar/Sale/Q.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) It put pen to paper the general feeling that the sox have made a ton of moves to basically be in a worse place than they would be if they made no moves at all (in regard to depth/salary/production) So basically, we're the Padres except with even less attendance/interest. Sounds about right.

Somehow Brexit isn't quite as compelling. Naval confrontation over South China Sea? How about meltdown of RMB? That already started to happen last July.

I have to watch just to see Coats suddenly certified as being able to play CF when all along he's been a corner OF. This is going to be like Jermaine Dye in center. Also, Shields/Porcello is Thursday, not tmrw. Is Thursday an afternoon or night game?

Haven't had a chance to listen yet... What was the summary in terms of looking at possible solutions and/or consequences?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 09:57 AM) I wouldn't put a win total on it, or all on the Shields deal. Short of making the playoffs, changes must be made. It's a terrible organization on every level. The ONLY reasons to care right now are Tim Anderson and seeing how those first three draft picks do....

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 09:57 AM) I wouldn't put a win total on it, or all on the Shields deal. Short of making the playoffs, changes must be made. It's a terrible organization on every level. The ONLY reasons to care right now are Tim Anderson and seeing how those first three draft picks do....