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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 24, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) Actually no pitchers at all who are early to mid career. I don't know which guys are eligible right now that might get in cause they are close to 300 wins, but yeah, I don't see anybody ever getting in counting guys early to mid career. Nobody cares about wins any more and that's all they used to care about regarding Hall starters. Closers' careers are short now, so the media won't vote them in for 4-5 dominant seasons alone. Mussina, Schilling and Clemens...

Wow, can't believe Joshua gave a Pirates movie a thumb's up...

Here's the problem with statistics. Everyone can create their own, to make a point supporting their beliefs. In the hearing today, Mulvaney was asking for the Dems to quantify or prove that Meals On Wheels, for example...is effective. Do you measure it by lives saved? Well, how? If you're not receiving benefits from this program, how likely are you to starve to death or more likely, have a health-related problem attributable to malnutrition or poor diet? One of the Dem reps responded, well, how do you know that spending $64 billion or $640 billion more is going to "make the world safer," exactly how many nuclear submarines are "allocatively efficient" (versus dangerously low), carriers, F-35's, Stealth bombers, etc. His secondary point was that as much waste and fraud as exists in the entitlement programs (Mulvaney brought up 11,000 that were dead still getting checks, or that some states had rules that X number had to receive a certain benefit regardless of economic conditions)...the numbers are even more frightening in terms of waste in DOD. That they weren't even audit-ready and wouldn't be so until the fall. So how can you say that "pure competition/privatization" is always the solution (the argument for not subsidizing CPB, because Sesame Street is highly profitable...what he didn't mention was all the OTHER education programming that's part of PBS that parents rely upon)...well, if that's actually the case, they're going to have a heckuva time arguing privatizing or running DOD the way they have since the 1980's is leading to cost-efficient expenditures.

Another argument is guys like Schilling, Mussina and Clemens will start to look more attractive again. Can we "re-judge" them fairly, and then take out the political/off the field stuff for Schilling? Maybe not. Personally, I feel that Verlander and King Felix were the two best pitchers of their generation, with guys like Scherzer, Sabathia, Greinke, Hamels, and pretty much anyone else you want to mention a notch or two behind. The two closers who deserve consideration are undoubtedly K-Rod (longevity as much as effectiveness) and Kimbrel. Then you have Kershaw and Sale in the "next generation" of pitchers in the their late 20's/early 30's. Bumgarner might not be in the conversation were it not for his post-season success, but you have to at least consider him for that reason alone.

Sale three k's through 2. Just 20 pitches, 2.13 era.

Price was throwing 95-96 in rehab start but got hit hard...only three ip, lots of pitches. Will have at least one more before activation.

Good test for Sale tonight against the Rangers... Front page of ESPN as he goes for 9 consecutive with at least ten k's to set record.

Giolito's start wiped out by wet grounds...bah humbug.

Rangers have a tough decision on Darvish. Cole Hamels, too. Astros are running away from everyone. Same with the Royals on Duffy and Perez....if Gordon and Soler are going to be worthless forever. They already lost Yordano Ventura. Herrera's definitely going to be dealt as his stuff has degraded slightly from 2-3 years ago. You've also got Gray and Archer with increasing value compared to last year. Gerrit Cole. Etc. Rentals like Holland, Vargas and Hector Santiago (unless the Twins stay close to first). Twins could fall out of it and get a ton for Erwin Santana this season, for example. Giants can move Cueto...not looking good for a Q haul.

Now Sessions in same hot water as Flynn about not declaring Russian contacts on security clearance forms.

Amazing you can offer savings when you only cover young and healthy, offer fewer benefits...magic tricks!!! In areas that opt to make modest changes, premiums would be reduced by 20%, on average, but mainly because insurers would cover fewer benefits. And in the places that opt to jettison the Obamacare protections, premiums would vary widely based on a consumer's health status and the benefits provided in the policy. In a statement, House Speaker Paul Ryan was defiant that the CBO confirms the GOP's "mission" of lowering premiums and the deficit. "We are on a rescue mission to bring down the cost of coverage and make sure families have access to affordable care," Ryan said. "This CBO report again confirms that the American Health Care Act achieves our mission: lowering premiums and lowering the deficit. It is another positive step toward keeping our promise to repeal and replace Obamacare." http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/24/news/econo...-cbo/index.html Ryan is even more dangerous than Pence.

Yes, Gregster. The current House bill, without any bipartisan elements, is polling 22 points less popular than even Donald Trump. That's amazing. Senate doesn't want to give up their majority in two years (despite numerous Dems compared to Republican seats up for re-election in 2018.)

When's the last time a pitcher with a 4.9 era was acquired for a huge prospect package in the middle of the season? Not easy to use "sabes" to sell a move like that to your fanbase. Joking, but not 100%

Leury Garcia, have yourself another good game. Sox continue to battle back on most occasions this season. Didn't really expect a double or homer there from Smith despite the two hits. Hoover struck out the side, and Frazier last inning.

Percentage points separating 8-11 in draft order. Moving up. First pitch to Anderson wasn't a strike, set up that entire at-bat and led to Timmy barking at him.

You can cancel Avi's contract extension for now...

Otoh, the Cubs' Kool Ade these days is so powerful at least one moderating or "devil's advocate" position occasionally expressing skepticism might be appreciated. I mean...even most (let's just say many) folks on the right side of the fence politically know intuitively when their stories are over the top or feeding them misinformation, which is why they are seeking other mainstream sources of news in recent weeks. Reading through a lot of the Cardinals' blogs in recent weeks, you're talking the winningest franchise in baseball the past 12-15-20 years getting absolutely hammered by paid/professional writers.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 24, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) This is a very sensible response and I am somewhere in line with this. This is a crisis and it's shame you can't talk about it without being called names. Why do you suppose the Netherlands, France and Germany are all simultaneously going back to the center...politically? Does Donald Trump actually believe building a wall instead of investing in education and infrastructure will somehow lead to 3% GDP growth? That swamping hospitals with uninsured and people reacting to a health care crisis because they can't afford treatment instead of being proactive with their health will work long-term? We've spent double the money on infrastructure development in Iraq and Afganistan....roughly $400 billion since 9/11, than in Trump's proposed budget. We need roughly $1.5-2 trillion for all the repairs that are backlogged. Solution, make the states pay for everything!!! That will surely work well. Pass the problem on down the line to all those Republican governors. https://twitter.com/drugproblem/status/8671...n.7f33a83d.html Follow la bella vita @drugproblem People really made Kim Kardashian delete this tweet because they didn't like that she included a photo of herself. Y'all are annoying

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 24, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) I'll take the L on this one but I still think people worry about ERA too much, I don't think GMs pay that much attention to it these days. In general for trade value I think a 7IP, 4ER, 9K, 0BB outing is better than a 7IP, 0ER, 2K, 3BB type of performance. Ummm, no. That's pitching without your best stuff and still gutting out a win.

Berrios dealing again today against O's...

They absolutely have to keep Devers...and those names listed would pretty much gut their remaining system.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/bla...rich/index.html In other relatively unsurprising news, yet another GOP Congressman tried to keep the Seth Rich story alive...again. Gingrich, Fox News, Hannity, MSM, where does it end?

All you have to do is trace RFK's campaign route in 1968 almost fifty years later. Migrant farm worker communities out West. Pine Ridge Reservation, Boone County SD, still the poorest in the country Appalachia Rural Mississippi Etc. The only area that significantly changed over that time was the Rust Belt, with lost factory jobs hurting Pittsburgh, the northern 2/3rds of Ohio, Cleveland, Detroit/All of Michigan particularly hard.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 24, 2017 -> 08:55 AM) So, Trump tells Philippines President Duterte that we have subs in Korean waters? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkor...s-idUSKBN18K15Y He must have meant waters outside of N.Korea, not inside the intl water boundary demarcations...probably just careless wording? Not knowing the difference?

Halladay and Johan Santana were two of the best of their generation and neither will come close, well...Halladay is on the borderline. Cole Hamels? Nah. And he'll get more votes than Buehrle, undoubtedly. East Coast bias from his Phillies' days. Sabathia's another interesting case...at any rate, right now you could probably only make a case for 5-6 current or recently retired pitchers. Felix Hernandez, Verlander and Greinke should soon join the conversation. How much does the late fade (minus 2016) hurt Verlander's chances? Same with Felix, for that matter.