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Viciedo at .293, 832 OPS. And the clutch hitting with RISP continues from the last game against Minny and CLE series. Taking every pitch right back where it's pitched.

Trade Viciedo for Josh Hamilton or Matt Kemp, lol. Well, maybe Kemp.

AJ slid in on Zobrist at 2B yesterday...late slide, his left cleat was WAY up in the air and caught Zobrist on the shin. Clearly a dirty play yesterday and could have injured BOTH of them. Wills going off on AJ. The whole thing was over.....two White Sox HBP early today but no warnings, then the White Sox decided to go after Zobrist to even up the score. Probably called by AJ himself.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) Automatic ejection for manager if a pitcher gets ejected after warning is given. There was no warning given to the Rays after the first 2 HBP. Now it looks like Cobb might have been hurt warming up....hamstring/push off leg. Guess he's okay for now. Someone should push a bunt out there and test Cobb's leg.

Hopefully Jones can get this game through the 6th. Might be a blessing in disguise, who knows. But it sucks to take the win away from Q. This has to be 90% on AJ...or Quintana just not being experienced enough to know how to deal with a situation like that at the big league level. He only has 9 games at AA in his entire career.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 30, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) so can anyone explain to me why Quintana is throwing at someone, while winning the game The unwritten code of baseball. Obviously it was intentional, Zobrist was the one involved in the spiking yesterday with AJ. There's just no reason not to at least issue a warning first. Wegner has a Napoleon Complex, big-time.

They better throw out any Rays pitcher for any pitch that comes halfway close to any Sox batters for the rest of this game. Well, luckily we have the off day for our bullpen. But Greg gets his wish, payback for our two hit batters in this game. Which was directly related to the AJ spike of Zobrist. Ventura kicked out of the game, too.

Payback for the AJ Pierzynski spike. Well, there's Greg's revenge. AJ thrown out of the game? Zobrist was the one who was spiked...then they throw behind Zobrist? This was a really really dumb move...doesn't make any sense. Nathan Jones will be in the game. Should have at least issued a warning there.

Wow. Right handed batters are 1/24 on the season so far against Quintana. Bizarre. 0.042 average.

Bad luck there for Paulie. Was hitting .421 with RISP. Josh Hamilton's in .360's, Jeter nearly 30 points behind him. Nearly a 50 point spread between Konerko and 3rd place. White Sox have threatened to score in every inning this game. Unfortunately, didn't push across at least 2 in the second, but didn't really deserve one in the first so we actually should be up 4-1, realistically.

Revenge for Ben Zobrist and the spike yesterday. Not exactly wise to do that in front of Viciedo, though.

Rios with a ringing double. Royals came back to take the lead against the Indians 5-3.

Leave the bases loaded with no outs, momentum ALWAYS shifts. One of the inexorable laws of baseball.

Well, that sucks...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Yeah, he could easily be over .300 with a little of Konerko's luck. I think those "robbed" home runs made both Beckham and Rios MAD.

Only 3 Colombians in MLB today. O-Cabrera and Edgar Renteria the two most famous ones in history...as well as Edgar's brother.

25 RBI's by Alex Rios now. White Sox taking advantage of nearly every break they get these days. Two plays that should/could have been made there.

In this day of modern transportation and instantaneous delivery, how could Konerko go for 3 games with all of his own personal bats still left back in Chicago?

Sox have refused to go with their alternative black road jerseys out of "good luck" suspicion so far during this streak. Dave Wills complaining the Rays don't have their best weapon against LHP, Jeff Keppinger, available to play.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 30, 2012 -> 11:56 AM) Josh Fields and Joe Borchard really both got pretty legitimate shots to be MLB regulars and floundered in those chances. Fields had a nice run for a while until they found out he couldn't hit a fastball. I feared for a bit that DV may have been having a Fields-esque run with his struggles hitting fastballs for the early part of the season and even the early part of his hot streak. Glad to say Dayan has been covering the fastball well by going the opposite way, something Fields was never capable of. Enough about that though. Those players were clearly too one dimensional to make it once we saw them in the MLB. Anderson was certainly NOT mentally tough. My issue with Ozzie was that (at least with information we have as fans) he didn't develop him properly. Knowing that he was a bit sensitive to the frequent benchings should have motivated Ozzie to give him regular playing time, but Ozzie was insistent on punishing him for poor play. I think Ozzie didn't like how BA spent his free time and that's fine, but he held it against him when it came to playing time. In that important developmental time I would have liked to see a manager literally baby a player like that, so that he can get some success under his belt and possibly deal with adversity in the future. From what we know it seems that Ozzie interacted with him very little and didn't give him any consistent playing time. He needed to do one of those two things. I know this is speculative and that's how it has to be since we are limited in info and we can't predict what would have happened had things changed. What we do know is that Brian hated hitting so much after leaving the White Sox that he became a pitcher. Maybe that type of attitude was unavoidable, but I like to think that a good coach could have at the least kept him from (more or less) leaving baseball. Think of this year so far and how rarely Robin has given time off to Gordon and Brent Morel. Brent was by far the worst player in baseball and wasn't getting benched until he needed to for injury. We are seeing that confidence paying off in the case of Gordon. Where was Greg Walker in all this? Except then we're back in the 1) in 2005-06, we weren't anywhere close to "rebuilding" and 2) before Orlando Hudson, there was no other option for the manager to play (Escobar and Lillibridge showed zero signs of life offensively), just like KW's the one responsible for giving up (in a way) on Anderson by acquiring Mackowiak and going away from the "one hitter in the line-up doesn't matter when the other 8 guys are hitting so well and he's playing such good defense" response to why they were sticking with BA in spite of his offensive woes.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:09 AM) Regarding Caulfield's post, I'm going to go ahead and err on the side of Ozzie not having actual vendettas against young players. I think he was just a poor talent evaluator. I'm guessing that his personal philosophy values experience too highly and it made him almost unwittingly hold back young players. The player that I still think he completely f***ed over was Brian Anderson. He had a horrid first half in that first season as a starter, but his second half was getting much better. Ozzie, though, was insistent on playing Rob Mackowiak at least 3 times a week. Anderson spent the entire season never getting more than 2-3 starts in a row and I can only imagine how hard it is to find an offensive rhythm or stay consistent with anything you're working on when you are habitually missing 30% of your at bats. Even so, the kid batted .250 in that second half but never was seen as a real full time option ever again. Now he's 31 which seems crazy because I still think of him as a young guy... And the counter-argument will always be, what did Brian Anderson or Josh Fields or Joe Borchard or whoever do after they left the White Sox? If Ozzie ruined them so easily, what does that say about their mental fortitude to make it as big league ballplayers? Wouldn't at least some of those guys be able to make an impact, if only in a Ryan Sweeney-esque, 4th outfielder kind of way? Won't it be argued that BECAUSE Dayan was protected so much from adverse pitching match-ups against tough RHPers, it helped his career somehow?

QUOTE (kev211 @ May 30, 2012 -> 03:58 AM) I love how what you posted has nothing to do with the article you linked. The argument is that the Cubs can get away without promoting Rizzo or Brett Jackson right away, but that the Sox would need them for attendance purposes or building excitement/enthusiasm about the team. But the White Sox held off promoting Viciedo for most of 2011, even when there was a clear need for his bat. The opposite premise is more the truth...the White Sox can't afford to promote phenoms usually because their growing pains will inhibit the team's ability to compete in a "win now/all in" environment.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:40 AM) I'm sure this has been answered before, but has Viciedo officially lost his Rookie status for this season? yep, 50 IP or 130 at-bats usually

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/cowley/1282...ts-control.html This is getting scary. Cowley wrote a pretty good, comprehensive, well-reserched article on the Sox. And he's on the bandwagon again. FOR NOW.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/12852410-41...hise-needs.html