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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 10:56 AM) Shack...I get why baseball might be tempted, but let's imagine that baseball had an anti-semite in their midst. With a thousand players, it's certainly not out of the question. Should baseball suspend people, in an official capacity for controversial statements or political beliefs? I can see why the league/commish would act on Schott...the owners are what, effectively contractors allowed into the league by the MLB main office, and the MLB main office is given extraordinary authority by Congress to regulate them and the game. Furthermore, there's no one else above the owners who has the authority to react to anything done by owners other than the League, while Ozzie has the team level to deal with, and I still think the team ought to care about this a lot more than the league. That's where it gets really dicey. Does that mean Luke Scott can be suspended for some of his idiotic comments? Then you have the NBA, who fined one of their players who tweeted a picture of his girlfriend's butt blocking the t.v. in her thong. In an election year, you can just imagine all the implications that go both ways. Baseball has never done anything to a player who refused to go to a White House ceremony after winning the World Series, for example. Nor should they. Somewhere, there's that invisible line of demarcation that goes solely from Hispanics to something that would offend all humankind...that's when you start talking about Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc., in any kind of positive light. But I can't even imagine anything more than a five game suspension for Stalin or Mao comments. There again, with Mao you could have "in the interest of the game" cited due to baseball's efforts to market itself in China/Taiwan (2008 Olympics, Dodgers playing an exhibition game there, major league teams establishing academies and putting on coaching clinics and tryouts). Hitler is the 3rd rail, though. Do not touch.
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Santiago's been consistently at 93-94-95 with the fastball. Santos so far anywhere from low 90's to 97. I think Santiago's delivery is a bit harder to pick up...definitely doesn't have Sergio's slider, but he's got two different offspeed pitches he can throw for strikes, which ends up being perhaps better than Santos' two pitch arsenal due to the variety. You have the sense with Santiago that he doesn't feel he HAS to come with a fastball when he's down in the count. Reed and Jones both throw with about the same velocity as Sergio, and Reed compares similarly because of that nasty slider of his, although you'd have to give the edge to Sergio so far of the two in terms of who has a better one.
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Son or song, lol? I'm assuming it's the latter. Hmmm...he's Puerto Rican-American, so I would go with something like Daddy Yankee (Rompe or Gasolina) from the reggaeton school or maybe Don Omar/Tego Calderon, something with a flair and beat.
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"It's like going to New York's Jewish district and saying, 'Hitler wasn't so bad. He managed to stay in power for a few years,'" veteran Spanish-language baseball announcer Amaury Pi-Gonzalez, who left Cuba at age 17, told USA Today. "Even a 9-year-old knows better than to say that in Miami. But I don't think he's really a fan of Castro or meant any harm. It's just that he talks so much that sometimes he says things without thinking about them."
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 09:37 AM) Sez the guy still writing stories about Ozzie, Kenny, and Cooper not getting along. cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley I thought the best thing Oz said is moving forward it's not what he says, but what he does. Period, move on. You should challenge him to never write another KW/Ozzie story again...to move on, just like his hero Ozzie. Acciones son mas importante que palabras (actions are more important than words) Now we'll be subjected to the Guillens going to a soup kitchen in Little Havana or some other contrived public appearance. At least he wasn't asked about sacrificing live animals for Santeria and Jay Mariotti. Does Mariotti have a twitter? I'm sure he's enjoying this moment about as much as any since he left Chicago.
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Hopefully KW will refrain from gloating. Will be interesting to see if anyone can get either Reinsdorf or Ventura to address this, I'm sure it's going to come up around a lot of MLB clubhouses today...especially with the Hispanic players. There was even intimation that there would be some kind of backlash against Venezuelans or Venezuelan players because of what Ozzie said. I think that's carrying it a bit too far, as well the Hitler comparisons.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/10/2739...guillen-in.html Apparently one of Ozzie's sons is getting him in trouble again. A "friend of his son" is supposedly shouting "VIVA CHAVEZ!" in a youtube video. Never underestimate the power of social media to come back and bite you these days. At the news conference Tuesday, Guillen denied ever having said "Viva Chavez," as seen in a YouTube video. He said one of his son's friends standing behind him made the statement.
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He just said in Spanish "it's the last time in his life he will ever talk about politics," lol.
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In protest of the Ozzie suspension, I will not attend the next 5 Marlins games. cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open If I was a Cuban protester my sign would read "Thank God I can live in a place where I can make a sign and hold it up without a bullet!'' cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @RizzoRJ77 Quiet 2nd or 3rd place finishes are much better. In reply to Randy J. Levine cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Protesters outside holding up signs written in Spanish, making sure very few people outside of California and Fla know what they're saying. cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Oz will miss two games with Philly and then three with Houston ... so technically suspended two games and a bye series. cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @KennedyMarty Yes, because that's the same. #dumbassness In reply to Marty Kennedy cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @AmyKNelson 3-year-old is protesting me leaving for another road trip. That's a tougher crowd to please. In reply to Amy K. Nelson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Close BREAKING: Actor Sean Penn has been suspended for 5 movies for his love of dictators, as well.
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So the main thing so far is a five day suspension without pay. The women who are asking him questions in Spanish are really hammering away at him over and over again but so far I give him credit for maintaining his poise and not getting impaciente or enojado.
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/miami-herald-live LIVE NOW. Or marlins.com or mlb.com
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With the way the Indians have been drawing, it's a wonder they can afford any of these guaranteed long-term deals. But they really have no choice if they want to operate their organization in a financially viably and competitive way in the future.
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And if Arencibia had held onto that throw, it wouldn't have been quite so much of a disaster, but that's always a risk with tag plays at home with a catcher's mitt and a bang-bang play.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 07:38 AM) No and I have no idea why you'd think where he said them was important. Just wondering if there's any distinction or differentation between free speech rights on public versus private property...? For example, in recent months, students have been expelled for posting things online while at home...because they were using the school's internet or IP address/account for posting. But the argument was made that since they weren't at school, they shouldn't suffer the same consequences....and also that it was after official school hours. Well, I guess it really doesn't matter.
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cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @ChiSoxFanDan Does he throw a couple back .... shoot, that's two innings of work for the Hawk. In reply to ChiSoxFanDan cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @ChiSoxFanDan All the Sox beat writers can vouch that Oz often had his family with him at the team hotel after games, and didn't get drunk. In reply to ChiSoxFanDan cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Another good read about Guillen - http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-04-0...e-guillen-exile cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @AmyKNelson Are they hot ... or is that me being insensitive? In reply to Amy K. Nelson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @Doug_SoxPack Yes, God forbid a league that has promoted drug use, racism, cheating and infidelity now takes a moral stand and fires him. In reply to Doug Gross cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @keithmdurkin Yeah, and if 60 percent of the 37,000 that fill that place were Cuban, it would be a concern. In reply to Keith Durkin cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @HCKY117 Brah, tell me about your time under a dictatorship ... would love to hear about it.... In reply to Rick Carlson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @keithmdurkin Jeff Loria isn't paying millions over the next four years to fire Ozzie. In reply to Keith Durkin cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @JDH_2009 I'm covering everything. In reply to Josh Henderson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @barnettmgmt He is a Hall of Famer with 2 straight wins. In reply to David Barnett cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @HCKY117 That's why this is a great country. Was better when we could all make fun of each other without crying, but still great. In reply to Rick Carlson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @HCKY117 I don't have anything in common with people that think animals are more important than people, but I can comment on them. In reply to Rick Carlson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @JDH_2009 Throws strikes, he can be really good. But can the arm hold up as a starter? That's the question. In reply to Josh Henderson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open .... BUT I HAVE A DAMN JOB AND A LIFE ... so I can't. But let my tax money go to those that can jump on the bus and hold up signs..... Better watch it with that comment COWLEY, you're getting very close to an OZZIE moment cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open As far as Guillen and the Marlins being protested all season long ... well, there are issues in the US I would like to go out and protest .. cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @JDH_2009 That's scary, but thank you. In reply to Josh Henderson cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @JDH_2009 That's because Ozzie is - and always will be a national story. In reply to Josh Henderson Josh Henderson @JDH_2009 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @cst_Cowley I hate to admit it, but you were right about Chicago will never free of Ozzie. Everyone is talking about it, over Evan the cubs Retweeted by cst_Cowley from Auburn, IN cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open And I'm also calling for Castro to apologize to his people for years of being a tyrant. cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Also, any political aspirations Guillen has for the future could have taken a hit. Mine, however, are alive and well. Cowley for President!
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The recent early March Fidel Castro comments were actually made at the Roger Dean Stadium Complex in Jupiter. Would it have made any difference if they were made there (I know it's home to two teams, like our agreement in Glendale) at Marlins Park, which is 80-85% publicly funded? I would be really curious to see his contract, and see what loopholes or leeway there is for the Marlins to get away with terminating him for cause...they had to have put some extra safeguards in place, knowing Ozzie's history of inflammatory comments, one would think.
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QUOTE (balfanman @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 07:46 AM) Over the offseason, team president David Samson made a run at the "Cuban Missile," rookie slugger Yoenis Cespedes, vowing to be "aggressive right to the point of stupidity." I'm more upset that they're trying to steal Alexi's nickname than anything else in that story. We should also be upset Dayan "The Cuban Tank" Viciedo wasn't included in that story.
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Mike Imrem from the Daily Herald beat Joe Cowley to the punch...amazing how all these local/regional/national columnists are NOW saying they wish they would have done something more substantive to confront Ozzie We up here are as responsible as Ozzie Guillen is for the controversy he created in South Florida. People in Chicago let Ozzie be Ozzie for too long. Guillen never realized enough how blessed he was to be embraced, protected and defended the way he was here. If he had, he would have compromised and still been White Sox manager. People here, Sox fans and others, considered Guillen one of their very own and let him get away with feeling he was on the right side of any line. Guillen was our mischievous little child, the one who keeps putting his hand in the cookie jar and experiencing only a hand slap as punishment. Ozzie made a homophobic remark here? Ozzie launched F-bombs in front of people who didn’t want to hear them? Ozzie defied authority, logic and social decorum? Oh, that’s just Ozzie being Ozzie. During Guillen’s eight seasons as White Sox manager, he was empowered to be a crass cartoon character. Sox fans empowered him, even before Guillen managed the Sox to a World Series title. The media did, mostly because Guillen was such refreshing copy. Jerry Reinsdorf did, maybe because Guillen was his late-life walk on the wild side. I can’t tell you how many times I wanted to tell Ozzie Guillen how wrong he was, that he should clean up his act, that as the face of the franchise he made Sox management, the city and himself look trashy. But I never did. I went along, as Reinsdorf did, as too many Sox fans did, as too many in the media did, as Kenny Williams grudgingly did. Guillen has made a mess of his debut as Miami Marlins manager, insulting Cuban Americans by saying to Time magazine, “I love Fidel Castro.” Thank goodness we didn’t have to apologize for Guillen had he blurted, while he was manager of the White Sox, something like, he loves Hitler or Osama bin Laden is a martyr. The Marlins currently are on the road, but Guillen is expected to return to Miami on Tuesday to issue an in-person apology for his insensitivity. Maybe that’s an indication he gets the difference between here and there, because I don’t recall him ever apologizing for anything while in Chicago. Orlando Sentinel columnist George Diaz was born in Cuba and wrote over the weekend, “I don’t know if (an apology) will be enough. It won’t be enough because people like me will never forget the courage it took for my parents to leave all of their possessions behind and catch a flight out of Cuba with their three children in 1961.” The thing Guillen didn’t understand was that Ozzie couldn’t be Ozzie in Miami the way he was in Chicago, not any more than, say, Mike Ditka could be Iron Mike in New Orleans.Guillen didn’t grow up as a sports figure down there like he did up here, so the act won’t play nearly as well and the jokes won’t be nearly as funny. Down there now the call is for the Marlins to fire Guillen, and he doesn’t have supporters like he nearly always had here.
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QUOTE (balfanman @ Apr 10, 2012 -> 07:17 AM) Konerko, meanwhile, had two hits and moved into a tie with Luke Appling for second place in franchise history with 3,528 total bases. Noticed this line in a Tribune article this morning. Does anyone know who is #1 and can Paulie catch him? Is it Big Frank? Yes, Frank Thomas. 3,949.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ozzie-guillen...DFuu8xAziY5nYcB Tim Brown, yahoosports ..Miami Marlins, Ozzie Guillen can't afford to alienate Cubans with U.S.-Havana bridge on horizon . .By Eric Adelson ..PostsEmailRSS..By Eric Adelson | Yahoo! Sports – 4 hours ago .... The stakes must be pretty high for the Miami Marlins to fly manager Ozzie Guillen back from the road Tuesday to make amends for his appalling praise of Fidel Castro. But we may not know the half of it. Of course Miami is heavily populated by Cuban-Americans, with nearly half the U.S. population of Cuban-Americans living in Miami-Dade County. But there's another pool of potential baseball fans – and players – that needs to be considered here. The Cubans themselves. That's because it's quite possible that in the lifetime of the new Marlins Park, relations between the U.S. and Cuba will normalize, opening the gates for baseball players and fans to freely travel from Havana to Florida and points north. Think it's speculative silliness? Don't be so sure. Only a year ago, the White House took "a series of steps to continue efforts to reach out to the Cuban people in support of their desire to freely determine their country's future," steps that included the modification of regulations on "purposeful travel." As ForeignPolicy.com declared, "Whether the Castros admit it or not, Cuba is moving in a direction that fulfills U.S. hopes for a more market-oriented, open society on the island." Normalization would not be an easy transition by any means – Castro's son, Raul, is entrenched in power – but it's a process that might pick up steam after Fidel, now 85, dies. And it surely would affect everything in Miami. "It's gonna happen sooner than later," says historian Rob Ruck of the University of Pittsburgh, who wrote "Raceball: How the Major Leagues Colonized the Black and Latin Game." "There has been a liberalization of the dynamics between Cuba and Cuban-Americans in Florida that has reached a tipping point. And what happens when Cuban ballplayers can come into the U.S. without having to go into exile? That's going to happen, too." So the Marlins might not only be protecting the fan base (and talent base) they see every day but also untold future followers who have no idea what Ozzie Guillen said in Time magazine about the Cuban revolutionary leader. The Marlins declined to comment for this story, but it's clear by the strong rebuke of their new manager that they realize the value of the Cuban-American community. Over the offseason, team president David Samson made a run at the "Cuban Missile," rookie slugger Yoenis Cespedes, vowing to be "aggressive right to the point of stupidity." Oakland signed Cespedes, but the impact of having a Cuban émigré on the roster is going to be hard to overstate if and when the gateway to the south opens up. Ruck imagines someone like Cespedes as a "Hank Greenberg/Sandy Koufax in a city of Jews." Are there more like Cespedes just waiting to be discovered? Hard to tell. The talent pool has been closed off since Castro took power in 1961 and made professional baseball illegal. A few stars have escaped – most prominently Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez and his half-brother Livan, who both pitched for teams that won World Series – but nearly all the Cuban refugees we've seen in the majors arrived toward the end of their careers. The rare younger defectors, including Cespedes, the Los Angeles Angels' Kendrys Morales, and Cincinnati Reds pitcher Aroldis Chapman, who famously threw the fastest pitch in recorded MLB history at 105 mph, were overpowering almost as soon as they put on an MLB uniform. No, not all Cuban players made an impact – and as Yahoo! Sports' Jeff Passan wrote in 2010, the politics and bureaucracy involved in bringing Cuban players to MLB already is numbing – but with a nation that's bigger in size and population than the Dominican Republic, the Marlins can't afford to create the impression of a hostile environment. In a 2008 piece for Vanity Fair, Michael Lewis wrote, "There may be no entrapped pool of human talent left on earth with the dollar value of Cuban baseball players." Lewis quotes a scout who says compared to the heralded Dominicans, "The Cubans are better." That's a bold statement, considering it's hard to find too many top teams in the big leagues without a Dominican star. But Lewis has some evidence: "Back in the old days, before Cuba was closed for business, it supplied more players to the major leagues than all the other Latin-American countries combined. In 1961, Cuba entered its first post-revolutionary baseball teams in international competitions and proceeded to beat the hell out of everyone, including the Dominicans. For a 10-year stretch, starting in 1987, the Cubans were 129–0 in major international competitions." Yes, the fall of the Soviet Empire (Cuba's main trading partner) brought severe poverty and isolation to the island. But the tradition is firmly entrenched. "Beside politics," said Arturo Mercano Guevara, an expert on baseball in Latin America, "the only thing [the Cubans] talk about is baseball. The stadiums were packed completely." The adoration for the sport goes all the way back to the mid-1800s, and arguably has grown over the Castro years, as bullfighting and boxing faded somewhat. (The Dodgers once trained in Havana.) So it's hard to believe a détente with Cuba wouldn't have a ripple effect on MLB – specifically, the Marlins. Granted, the development of the Cuban middle class will take many years, but in the middle of the last century, Cubans came to Miami for weekend shopping trips. If fans fly from Tokyo to see Ichiro, they'll fly a half-hour to see the Marlins – especially if one or a few of their own are playing. "If the [Castro] regime collapses and a new kind of government takes over, which is what we all would want, of course it would have an impact," said Roberto Gonzalez-Echeverida, a Yale professor who wrote a book about baseball in Cuba. "I think Miami and Havana would become the ends of a bridge, connecting the two cities." Gonzalez-Echeverida thinks the Marlins have work to do. "The Marlins are not reaching out to the Hispanic community," he told Yahoo! Sports well before this latest fiasco. The acquisition of Dominican star Jose Reyes and the continued presence of Hanley Ramirez surely helps, but Guillen's comments likely undid a lot of that – especially in the Cuban-American community. And that community, though already booming, may be only a hint of what's to come. "These forces [of modernization] are pretty darn strong," Ruck said. "I don't think it benefits anybody to maintain these barriers. Cuba is no threat to the United States. It's an anachronism." So it behooves fans and onlookers alike to keep that in mind as the Guillen saga unfolds. If and when the "anachronism" is righted, the meaning of baseball in Miami might change at warp speed.
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cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @BradT313 Nestor Molina 0-1 with a 4.50 ERA in Class AA so far ... thanks for playing. Take a pot shot at KW even though Sergio Santos has two blown saves, Santiago's 2/2 and Molina has one start under his belt 14h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open I wonder what Robin will say about Cuba this afternoon ... ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... it's human valium. Blame Ventura for being really boring, not exciting like Ozzie and Joe-Hineybird's Co(u)wsin 14h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open ... but the fact you people can't quit Ozzie Guillen. Embrace it Chicago, you miss the circus! No, you miss the circus, that's the only reason you still have a job, trying to create one. 14h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open You know what's amazing? The first week of Chicago baseball, the most talked about thing is not the Sox bullpen, not the Cubs rotation... 16h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Bill Maher's comments about 9-11 were 100 times worse, and ol' Bill recovered just fine. Make irrelevant comparisons with political commentators outside the world of sports (no Rush Limbaugh?) that attempt to make Ozzie look "not so bad" in comparison 16h DKnobler @DKnobler Reply Retweet Favorite · Open I tend to agree more with @cst_Cowley, who points out that speaking out stupidly is supposed to be a problem in Castro's Cuba, not here. Retweeted by cst_Cowley 16h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @Doug_SoxPack So were the eight years of Ozzie worth a World Series trophy? In reply to Doug Gross 16h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open Loria wanted an over-the-top ballpark and an over-the-top manager that captures headlines. Check and check. All press is good press, caveat emptor, blame it on Loria and KW. 16h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @Ricky11Slade It sure is..... put some sun block on and have fun with that. In reply to Tim Boyd 16h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open @Kaufmak Please don't do the, "Well, if I did that on my job.... '' The pro sports world is not even close to a normal job. In reply to Kaufmak 16h cst_Cowley @cst_Cowley Reply Retweet Favorite · Open And memo to Cuban protesters: You will be protesting free speech, the very thing you did not have in Cuba. Think about it. Check, check and check: Turn the tables on the protesters and try to make them out to be the bad guys, blame the victim(s) Boy oh boy, Marge Schott and Al Campanis were sure entertaining!
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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 9, 2012 -> 11:52 PM) And, IIRC, Brandon Allen has spent some time in LF when he was with the DBacks as well. I'd be a lot more excited if they could convert him to 3B. There, he would actually be a "plus" bat, whereas at 1B/DH he's struggling to survive in the majors. It's a long shot, but to take a young player with some upside over McPherson/Johnson/C.Jackson...playing him at 3B or even in the OF in Birmingham or Charlotte, why not?
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Let's hope Beckham can start matching some of his nifty fielding with his work in the batter's box. Alex Rios, TWO HANDS. Chris Sale, every left-handed batter in the league will cringe when they see the Shin-Soo Choo HBP highlight. Fear is your friend. Dayan Viciedo, keep it up. Same with DeAza (except for getting thrown out on the basepaths).
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The Marlins called a news conference -- which will be streamed live on MLB.com and marlins.com -- for 10:30 a.m. ET at Marlins Park on Tuesday. http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2012...s-little-havana So now comes the damage control. Guillen already has had a few days to work on his apologies since he first read the to-be-published comments last Friday. He has been as contrite as anyone could be. I have no doubt he will be sincere at his news conference Tuesday morning. He cares about people and knows he has hurt a lot of them. Of course, there's also that four-year, $10 million contract he wants to keep. This was apparent last week when he dodged a question about the sore-thumb home run sculpture in the new park. "Mr. Loria (Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria) made it? (It's) beautiful," he said. He was smiling but he wasn't joking. So what's next? Will the Marlins do the right thing and suspend him? When this blows over, will Guillen stop doing so many interviews? Will he stop popping off about topics he knows nothing about? I hope not. He would not be Ozzie Guillen if he didn't make ridiculous comments. I don't believe he meant any harm with this one. He was just trying a little harder than usual to be say something outrageous. Heck, you even could say he was just doing his job. The Marlins wanted him to generate headlines. Well, that's what he's done, just more stupidly than usual. Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2012...a#ixzz1rckbXpgs
