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Lucy has really come back down to earth, at .208 now. Maybe, just maybe he can stick as a back-up (like Corky Miller), but we're in huge trouble if he's ever the everday catcher. Mark Johnson looks like a slugger compared to him.

Simple to say we should have stood pat: 1) Kept Thome for DH (although Jones has been about the same production for similar price)....but Kotsay's at-bats would have been lowered, although TMK has been one of our better hitters as of late 2) Reverse the Ely for Pierre trade...Pods stays in LF, we're not stuck with Pierre in 2011 3) Reverse the Peavy for Richard/Poreda/Russell/Carter trade 4) Never traded for Mark Teahen....Anderson/Fields/Getz don't really matter in the overall scheme of things, though Our rotation would be Danks, Buehrle, Floyd, Richard and Ely/Garcia Mitchell would be banging on the door with an MVP Year in the Southern League. Flowers would be ready to replace AJ at season's end, Viciedo for Konerko and Hudson could be brought into the back of the rotation or long man. The money saved on Peavy, Teahen and Pierre (not to mention Vizquel) could have been used on getting a real DH if they didn't want to go with Thome or Andruw Jones. They also could have signed Orlando Hudson for 2B, kept Beckham at 3B and never traded for Teahen. That would have been my move. Or bringing Uribe back.

Alexei The Cuban Miscue Ramirez Mark Leaning Tower of Teahen Gordon Hopefully I'm not the Second Coming of Caruso Beckham

At least Caruso could steal some bases. He didn't have Slayer's (what happened to that ridiculous nickname) "hunnies" like BA, though...or a radio show.

At least Acta knows when to pull Masterson. That's probably why he's 6-1 against us this season with an absolutely putrid team despite Ozzie saying he doesn't deserve an MLB managing job. Greg, I feel very confident you could manage the White Sox to a 2-5 or 3-4 record against the Indians this year. Harvard ECON major in. For sure, he'll get Beckham out. Major league debut. Only 1 run given up in AAA, in his first appearance....18 games without a run given up after that.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 09:08 PM) I said I want you guys to get your wish. You'll be happy the rest of the year because the new manager will be an interim so he'll be blame free. And then you'll have the whole offseason to look forward to the new manager and you'll give him to the all star break the following season before you turn on him. By all means fire Ozzie. I'm all for it. Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's like Dick Allen defending Walker. Sometimes a change just has to be made.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) I really do hope they fire Oz so you guys will be happy. It's grown so old to hear the same ol b****ing about a horses*** team. Please fire Ozzie so you guys can complain about the next guy. I'm in a s*** mood but not because of Danks imploding in the sixth inning. My god if he can't go six, he deserves to stay in and get f***ing rocked. Ridiculous. But you guys blame the manager instead of Danks. Amazing. I'm mad because the Hawks are getting their asses bludgeoned in all phases of the game. Hopefully home ice will fix what ails the Hawks. PLEASE FIRE OZZIE! 1) Danks' velocity was down 2) He was facing a hitter who was 2/2 against him despite entering the game below 150 3) Danks' pitch count was way up 4) He was almost destroyed twice by Peralta, who was also in a super-slump like Hafner, Valbuena and Andruw Jones 5) Danks is horrible against LHB After the ball hit hard by Hafner right back at Danks that somehow resulted in an out, 95% of MLB managers pull their starter there.

OZZIE, ONCE AGAIN. YOU should just quit if you care about this franchise you supposedly love so much. You're destroying this franchise and its fanbase.

Couldn't one of the Top 10 NCAA teams do better than 1-6 versus this year's CLE Indians team?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 08:59 PM) Konerko's out of the lineup Hopefully he's been traded. I don't want to have any reason to believe in this team. It's easier to just expect a loss and not get emotionally invested.

What were the LAS VEGAS odds on this game coming in? If this were the 1919 World Series, I would say that Ozzie was intentionally trying to lose this game. There's no way he can defend this. Danks hasn't had good stuff the entire game, he was just facing a AAA line-up (or worse).

Ozzie F--K YOU, you're a complete idiot. Thanks for just giving the Indians another game this season. You must have bet on this game. There's no other reason to explain losing to this Indians' team.

Where's the logic in Danks facing a hitter who's 2 for 2 against him, when the guy came into the night hitting around .150?

Ozzie now officially the worst manager in baseball. When you have our bullpen and Danks is fading, why the HELL do you not pull Danks???

Huge out. Now get Santos in there Ozzie. If we can keep it to a 1 run lead, it's a huge momentum shift.

It's obvious now, but Danks should have been pulled. Peralta killed that pitch earlier in the count. Basically, with Santos in the pen, Ozzie seems not to care if we go 1-6 versus the Indians. Shameful results against a team we should simply dominate.

Jones now 3 for his last 29. At least one of them was the homer to RCF. Wonder if he's going to end up simply repeating last year's slide in the second part of the season?

Without Sizmore, with Hafner a shell of his former self, the only threats on this Indians' team are Choo and maybe Peralta. Brayan can accidentally run into a pitch now and then, but Danks should be able to retire him easily. Amazing how much worse their line-up looks than even ours. Danks 289 vs LHB, 208 vs RHB. Valbuena hitting around 150, a lefty, and he has two hits. Baseball is a strange game.

Alexei Ramirez had a .779 OPS in May and looking good again in June. Still comes down to Beckham, Quentin, AJ and our problems at 3B (offensively)...and Jake Peavy/Buehrle/Floyd pulling out of their slumps. Pierre is Pierre, we'll be lucky if he comes close to a 700 OPS.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance/_/year/2007 White Sox 21st in attendance now, not as bad as I expected. Interesting we're only 19 fans per game behind the best team in baseball. Not so far behind SD and ahead of Cincy. Danks 67 pitches through 4.

We have to be leading the league in horrible baserunning this year, even without the presence of Pods. Masterson already at 62 pitches, we should have had him up to 70 this inning. Of course, we've had limited success against their so-so bullpen this year. 4 walks by Masterson, 2 to Kotsay.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 3, 2010 -> 08:07 PM) Are you kidding me? How can i have a negative reaction to a stupid, little league play made by Carlos Quentin? This is a game thread. It's just symptomatic of the overall "team malaise," not only making physical but also mental and concentration errors. The whole team is just going through the motions, and it shouldn't be tolerated by the GM or manager.

Two seasons ago, it really didn't matter how bad he or JD were defensively. But with a low 700ish OPS, that's not tolerable from a corner OF/DH.

Let's just hope Andruw Jones can get hot again, get his BA back to .250-.260 and we can get something back for him.

Thanks Carlos. We replaced JD with an even worse defender. That was pretty dificult to do, but KW and you helped to manage it.