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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2010 -> 05:34 PM) He has also resigned a lot of them to multi-year deals, such as AJ, PK, Contreras, Buehrle and others. And Teahen/Linebrink/MacDougal.

Surely Beckham was expected by most to be better than Iguchi. Didn't Gordon's rookie numbers in 2/3rd's of a season come pretty close to what Tadahito did in his full seasons in 2005/06 (plus, those 06 offensive numbers were so sick the first 4 months). Ramirez, same thing with his being a better overall player than Uribe. He's not showing it, but it was there in 2008 and for flashes over the last 18 months. Uribe's only really good offensive years happened early in his Sox career. as he faded late. Of course, AJ is older now. 2010 Rios is head and shoulders better than 2005 Rowand. Andruw Jones is certainly playing at a level equal to what we got out of DH overall that year (Thomas/Everett).

Thanks for reverse JENKSING a .216 hitter. Now you've guaranteed an Ordonez at bat with a chance to tie the game. It's like the don't talk about no-hitter rule. Every time we say that about a Piranha, they manage to beat us somehow.

Jenks just got one up to 97 MPH.

I don't like Jenks over Pena with the four run lead and non-save situation. But you have to get him some work so he can TRY to get a feel for his offspeed stuff. Otherwise, if we needed him tmrw against the Angels, he'd really be shaky(ier) coming out of the pen with so much rest. 96 MPH from JENKS, Santos at 95-98, Zumaya was around 100.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ May 18, 2010 -> 01:10 PM) nice work kid!! who goes the 8th, putz or pena? They stay with Santos until he gives up a hit/walk or PUTZ. No way it's Pena. He just hasn't been in that situation very often with us. Jenks has TOO MUCH REST. That means he'll be either lights out or struggle mightily to close the door.

Wow, Cabrera was at .458 with the bases loaded b4 that at-bat. Playing with fire there. Good job not to give up the tying runs. That's called "stuff" to bail you out.

Fell asleep. Pierre just made one of the five best defensive plays of the season it seems. Surprised that F. Garcia has held up so well at this point.

Tendon inflammation has Matt Thornton out of this game but not on the DL quite yet...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb Anyone for trading our entire minor league system (minus T. Thompson, Mitchell, Hudson, Viciedo and Flowers) for Hanley Ramirez?

Viciedo with his 9th homer of the season, 19 RBI's now, .279 BA. Almost a 1.000 OPS in the month of MAY. Quite a tear. In other related news, Jordan Danks struck out yet again. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_05_17_chraaa_swbaaa_1

The problem is that Beckham doesn't profile as a "plus" player offensively at 3B. Even his OPS last year when he was going well would have put him in the middle of the pack, closer to Top 8-12, I'm just guessing, I'm sure someone could post where his OPS at 3B would rank his versus at 2B. He's a much better defender at 2B as well, that was always his projected position when he was drafted. The mistake we made was trading for Teahen and signing him to an extension. There were a lot of other options out there...for example, we could have gotten Miguel Tejada for one season (+ option year) and held the position for Morel, but we got in a hurry to pick up another Royal, ostensibly because of how he plays against us? Would still love to pry away Alex Gordon, leaving us with a MUCH MUCH better looking infield. As noted here, we need to get Nix a lot more playing time (than Vizquel) and see what we have. If that includes playing time for CJ Retherford and/or Brent Lillibridge, I'm all for that, because we're going nowhere with Omar and he's not a part of our future, except perhaps in Ozzie's bizarro universe.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 17, 2010 -> 02:41 PM) I agree, I think he's the most overrated Sox prospect of the last 5 years. However, the organization seems dedicated to having him on the fast track. I'll go with Silverio and Anderson Gomes. And LOL at Dave Wilder's club BURN in metro Phoenix.

I'll agree trading Floyd at low value now is borderline insane. Doesn't make any sense at all...we have to wait for him to get straightened out, just keep sending him out there every 5 days. Wally Backham?

It's not surprising, because guys like Kotsay, Vizquel, Pierre, Beckham, AJ and Teahen haven't been hitting the ball with much, if any, authority. When Quentin doesn't get an XB hit, he pops it up somewhere or pulls a pretty weak grounder somewhere on the left side of the diamond the majority of the time. Alexei has struck out less and hit a TON of foul homers because he's just a bit too quick at the plate....but he has also got himself out a ton on pretty weakly hit groundballs as well. Konerko and Rios have been the hitters who have squared up the most balls, and Konerko's gone into one of his patented "mini-slides" now as well.

It all comes down to trading Rios, Danks, Buehrle or Peavy if we really want to create significant payroll space. Quentin is another big enigmatic mystery that we have to decide upon before 2011 starts. He's certainly not hitting like a player worthy of $4-6 million in payroll space, as he's basically a glorified DH. But, if you compare him to Teahen, I would gamble 100 times in a row that Quentin still has the upside to get things together offensively over TMT. Linebrink, Pierre and Teahen, stupid deals like those three hem KW in, especially the last two (as I can understand the Liney and Dotel deals, just not the length of contract for him)... I think $75-95 million is a more legitimate range, with the actual number coming in closer to $90-95 than $75 million. ($65 million was the 2005 WS championship team's payroll number).

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ May 16, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) Didn't Troy Tulowitzki have a similar meteoric climb to stardom his rookie year, only to come crashing down to Earth in his sophmore season? He turned it around though. Maybe Beckham will be the same? Kip Wells was kind of the same thing. Sosa and Cameron really tanked/cratered in their second seasons. Kenny Williams, too. Who are you guys most concerned about at this point, being the player we expect AGAIN in the future: Beckham or Quentin. Alex Rios has already proved that the back of his card didn't lie, pretty much.

Well, I was with two girls in China last night, but not at the same time. I guess that sort of counts, lol. By osmosis or the "associative" theory in algebra.

How to Train Your Dragon is simply excellent animation. I rank it right up there with UP! as far as my all-time faves in that category.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 16, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) There's no prize for having the most pretty abattoir. What about beaudoire or bedroom? menage a trois? The race to the bottom of the standings, AKA first draft choice. 1. Baltimore Orioles 2. Houston Astros 3. KC Royals 4. Seattle Mariners (Jack Z. on the hot seat now a bit) 5. Arizona Diamondbacks 6. Chicago White Sox 7. Chicago Cubs Milwaukee Brewers

No more than they were "deflated" last year by playing in Birmingham, one of the toughest hitters' parks in the minors.

I'm waiting for them to sign Bonds, Sosa or Palmeiro to play LF. It will remind me of the 2001 season and bringing in Canseco, who actually played pretty well for us, compared to most of the veteran "over the hill" guys we've brought in 3-5 years too late in their careers...they're (Boyer and Co.) going to have to be very creative if they don't want to end up 22nd-26th in MLB attendance.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) Brian Anderson had just as much talent, IMO. A lot better power. Funny that BA and Borchard will both mostly be remembered for homers (against King Felix, and Joe's huge blast)...and maybe BA's play to end the Game 163 drama. Yet neither one of them could hit for enough "consistent" power (just flashes) to survive. How many times did we hear that BA could put up Torii Hunter's offensive line? I'd say 25 times over a 3 to 4 year period.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 16, 2010 -> 03:16 PM) Of course...there's 1 other option you haven't given...if he keeps hitting, I still think Rios is your best possible trade bait. You save $12 million, and he's the kind of guy that you'd legitimately hold out for a top, A-level prospect in exchange for. This is where we disagree. With so much uncertainty now about Quentin and Beckham, not to mention Alexei Ramirez....I dig my heels in, make a line in the sand and start building around Alex Rios. You would go the Indians' route and gamble you could strike gold with an acquisition where you get 2-3 players back like Sizemore, Phillips and Cliff Lee. If KW could get anything approximating that type of youthful talent infusion, trade Rios, by all means. But teams are wary of parting with young talent. The Yankees might already be regretting the Austin Jackson/Granderson deal. They would be, certainly, if they had to worry a scintilla about their payrolls going forward. It's like "play money" for them.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 16, 2010 -> 03:11 PM) Flowers isn't going to get any playing time unless AJ is moved. He just won't. Ozzie isn't benching a struggling veteran for a kid. Neither would most any other manager. And AJ would probably hate having his replacement up next to him. That would be terrible for the kid too. You could see how uncomfortable this was in ST. It's why Flowers just sort of disappeared, Ozzie's way of avoiding a problem. Obviously AJ doesn't really want to mentor Flowers, he just has too much pride to give up his position or see himself being replaced. It's a very different situation from Cora and Vizquel working with Beckham, Nix and Ramirez. But you have to trade AJ and open up the position, and roll the dice. Trading Flowers for A-Gone or whatever, that's an option no longer on the table. You might completely "bust" him as a prospect, but I don't think so.