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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:12 AM) In theory, it would be Danks/Peavy/Floyd/Humber/Sale. But if MB/EJ/JP/CQ are gone, they'd have a chunk of change to sign another SP if they needed. I can't access Kalapse's payroll resource, but I wouldn't count my chickens before they're hatched on this one. For example, AJ will make $4 million more next season, compared to this season. Danks will be getting a substantial arbitration raise. Peavy will go up by $1 million. Dunn will go up by $2 million. Floyd does up by $2 million. Teahen $750,000. Crain, $500,000. Thornton goes up $2.5 million. Ramirez. $3.9 million as long-term extension kicks in. Viciedo $1.25 million, etc. Ohman, $1 million raise. So let's just put that at around $21 million. So we're paying Pierre in actuality $5 million because of the subsidy from LA. Quentin at $5 million. Buehrle $14 and EJ, $8.35. That's $32.5 million. So the next difference is actually only $11.5 million to keep the same SKY HIGH, RECORD PAYROLL. ASSUMING JR IS EVEN WILLING TO DO SO. If nothing else, it seems more and more clear that Quentin might be the odd man out just for payroll purposes, along with Mr. Danks, because he will bring us the highest return in trade AND he's getting more and more expensive (although still a bargain). What that $11.5 million PROBABLY represents is the money that will used to bring back Buehrle. If not used, it will be cut from the payroll, which is probably a reasonable assumption if we don't make the playoffs again this season. This leaves DeAza as your new leftfielder (Lillibridge, Jordan Danks and Lastings Milledge will all figure in) and leadoff hitter (replacing Pierre) and Viciedo in RF. Whoever they get back for Danks and Quentin will be used to plug the gaps in the starting rotation, especially if Buehrle doesn't return. EDIT: We're wasting another $3.5 million on Linebrink, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that they don't bring back Vizquel at $1.75 million. They'll need a back-up catcher, so I won't give you that $1.2 million for Castro. In the end, that's $17 million. But still a payroll in the $105-110 million range (and this doesn't include raises for the likes of Humber, Beckham, Santos, Lillibridge and Sale, for example). I'll give you a final $1.6 million for Tony Pena. $18.6 million. But I'll bet you $9-12 million goes to bring back Mark Buehrle and that's all we spend in the offseason. KW will have to trade Quentin/Danks to get our new impact players for 2012, along with bringing in DeAza and Viciedo to replace Pierre and CQ.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 11:57 PM) I'd trade CQ for Bourn in a heartbeat. Bourn is dirt cheap, CQ is about to be $10m player. Viciedo doesn't have to be CQ for this team to be good - Dunn needs to be Dunn and Rios needs to be Rios. If those guys are good, and Viciedo is 70% of CQ, and you replace Pierre with Bourn, you have a WAY better team. If Dunn/Rios/Beckham stay bad, the team isn't going to win either way. Think about 2012. Without CQ, MB, EJ, and JP, there's like $40m off the books. Jerry won't put us at $127m again, but he'll sure as hell put us at $100m. Now imagine the above scenario with $15m or so for KW to spend on FA. Except who are you going to get to replace Mark Buehrle and Jackson? Our rotation next year is going to be at least one starter short, assuming Peavy stays healthy. There's at least a 50/50 chance he isn't healthy again coming into 2012. So that's potentially 2 starters. And that Humber continues to pitch like a frontline starter instead of a journeyman/AAAA/filler pitcher.

Wow, Gardenhire pulled Capps. 3-2 Twins, 2 outs, runners on 1st and 2nd, just walked Shoppach and Perkins will come in to face Damon. Gutsy call, don't see the closer pulled very often with a lead in the 9th. Perkins got Damon to ground weakly to SS, Game Over.

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Teahen will live off that 3 run, game-tying pinch hit homer for another 2 months.

Capps in trouble again in the 9th. One run in, runner on first and no outs already. Why is Morel hitting there again? Ooops, haha. Why is Teahen hitting, lol!

Perfect positioning by the Royals and Gordon there to the opposite field on Pierre.

Okay, we still have some bullets to use with Teahen, Ramirez and maybe Rios. Gordon with 3 bad at-bats after ripping a liner the first time up. Is sustained progress possible for Dunn, Beckham or Rios?

Dunn and Lillibridge not exactly endearing themselves to the fans tonight. The Twins have a -70 runs scored/given up differential...3rd worst in the majors (only Cubs and Astros are worse) and they're only another week away from being right back into the middle of the division race. Yikes.

From afar, she's amazing in those skirts and heels. Up close, too much plastic surgery. Just feels/seems unnatural. I'd take Cameron Diaz's personality anytime. The way she ended up with him...jobless, yet living together in a penthouse type apartment? Why would she ever be with him? I still don't get how the 200+ Decepticons "disappeared" and were able to be defeated by 9 Autobots and the "NEST/SEALS" teams. I don't get why they tried to make Megatron into an Osama bin Laden-esque bandit hiding in Africa. But the two scenes with Rosie.....one with her "glancing into the distance with everything blowing up around her behind her in Chicago" and then her speech to Megatron. It just doesn't fit the entire personality of Megatron throughout the entire series. And the ending sucked. I actually liked it until the final 15-20 minutes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 09:15 PM) Never has an "off the end of the bat" home run meant so little I guess about a player's progress. Something has got to be done about the offense. You have to score runs to win, and having an offense that struggles mightily to score more than 2 runs against a starting pitching isn't going to get it done. And it's not like we're facing Zach Greinke or Gil Meche when he was going good. This is a raw kid with a great arm but no idea where the ball's going who just happens to be 0-6. That's not an accident. Major league hitters make adjustments. They might have to do the unthinkable and move Pierre to CF and bring up Viciedo and create an atrocious outfield defensive alignment.

Beckham with a rare mistake on a play he usually makes about 90% of the time. Not an error, but he actually overran it.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) If this is Reinsdorf's version of "all in", I shutter to think what not being "all in" looks like.. You blame JR for Adam Dunn, really? Who would you have signed as DH? Certainly, you wouldn't have kept Mark Kotsay and Andruw Jones?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 08:09 PM) A hit and run. Maybe. I think he just felt that he needed to protect Pierre with how many times he's been thrown out stealing this season.

Predictable. Yay, the Indians lost so we don't lose ground. The problem is that the Indians are going to beat up the Royals later, whereas we'll struggle to go .500 against them.

Paulino at 112 pitches. He gets Morel and then he's out of there. The biggest difference here is the Royals make contact and put the ball into play. We've whiffed on most of our chances. I know overall we don't strike out as much as other teams because of AJ and Pierre in the line-up, but we've K'ed way too many times with RISP.

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 07:54 PM) That's the problem right there, why sit a guy who Is doing well to play slugs? Then expect him to produce after sitting 5-6 days Who was playing well? Certainly neither Ramirez, nor Rios. The funny thing is that none of those balls were hit hard. A topspin single through the hole, a gork shot to RF and another seeing-eye single. Only 6 hits through 6 IP. Meanwhile, we failed to knock out a starter who's 0-6 with NUMEROUS chances with RISP.

Peavy just doesn't have it tonight. Still, there's been only one hard-hit ball against him, the one by Escobar in the first inning to the gap. You just had the feeling that the White Sox were playing with fire not knocking the Royals out the last 3 innings with all the runners they left on base.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 07:48 PM) Brent just needs a little time with a good hitting coach.....maybe we can do him a favor and arrange a trade to a team that has one He was playing over his head the first two months. He's not the kind of a player who should have a huge, longish swing path. He needs to make contact and hit the ball on the ground. Hitting all those early homers might have been the worst possible thing to happen to him.

Ugh....how many runners have we left on the basepaths the last 3 innings? 7? 4 in scoring position, I think?

We're almost to the point where Brent might be better off playing in the minors everyday and getting his hitting stroke back, but we can't afford to give up his defense and pinch-running.

Why are Lillibridge and Dunn coming up in every key situation this game? UGH. Brent really needs a baseknock here.

Well, on the plus side, AJ and Pierre are hot. Beckham ripped the ball right at Moustakas in the first at-bat. Paulino's 0-6 and the White Sox are 7-1 in Peavy starts. So you have to like that trend. And you might as well forget about Lillibridge being an everyday player.

And I forgot one: He can drive a golf ball 400 yards. He's supposedly a very good golfer.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 5, 2011 -> 08:35 PM) Awful, as he misses the hanging slider. When will our hitters learn they're going to throw 2-0 and 3-2 breaking pitches? Especially when you get a 2-0 slider. You're not going to get a fastball at 3-2.