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Can we please at least try to cancel the post-game show?

5 hitters in today's line-up entering the game with under a .547 OPS (Beckham/Ramirez tied).... No Quentin...and the hits they just keep on coming. Does the sore hamstring serve as excuse for his below average defense, compared to what we expected? How can a physical specimen like that get hurt so often?

Ordonez with his 2,000th hit. Congrats, Magglio. Wonder if 2,500 would get him close to the HOF? Would he dare go in as a Tiger instead of White Sox?

Univ. of Iowa's softball coach is a better choice than Hoiberg.

We'll need Jones to join the (starting pitching) rotation too, with the way things have gone for some of our hurlers.

Royals, down 5-1, actually had a comeback to tie game at 5-5 against the M's with two clutch, two out hits against R-R-S. Would be nice to see the White Sox do that more often. Rolls eyes right back. Last time I checked, those homers against SEA/Aardsma/Lowe were solo homers, not "clutch two out (base) hits (with RISP)"...(since the Royals aren't a home run hitting team, either, with the exception of Guillen/Ankiel). How many times recently has someone other than Rios done that....getting a "clutch" single with a runner on 2nd base with 2 outs in the 7th/8th/9th innings?

Aaron Poreda's certainly doing f***ing great down in the minors isn't he? That's kind of the point. HOPEFULLY, Peavy gets it together, but since you brought Poreda's performance this season over 3-4 weeks into the season up, doesn't it make it equally relevant to talk about what Jake or Richard has done so far? OF COURSE, in the long-term, Peavy SHOULD be fine and it was the right move at the time. If he's not (fine), we're screwed in too many ways to count.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 10:24 PM) Huh? The conversation was about the decision-making of the Indians...or decent players on the M's, I can't even remember and am not going to bother to backtrack all the way through the thread..trading Franklin Gutierrez for what they got back was epic stupid/fail.

Interesting, because the only player that Bell should know really well (and have approved acquiring) would be Teahen, and he's been pretty decent.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 06:53 AM) How's Javy Vazquez doing? Or Jeremy Reed? Or Miguel Olivo? Marte? Aaron Poreda's certainly doing f***ing great down in the minors isn't he? Kenny Williams has done a great job having a roster prepared to go from the "opening bell" the last two years. True or false? I think based on the results so far, the White Sox would be better off with Clayton Richard and an actual DH (Jones has been fine) like Matsui. I could care less about Poreda.

QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) It's what I refer to as FADS... Fan Attention Deficit Syndrome. Symptoms: Prior wins are forgotten immediately the day after a loss; anything good a player/manager, etc. does is forgotten quickly while anything wrong they do sticks in long-term memory. Etc. Okay...

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) Seriously? The Sox had three straight games where they came back late to win, just this past weekend. Their clutch hitting is still bad, but did you not notice those games they just played? Ummm.....seriously, we have the lowest BA with RISP in the major leagues (.199)...and you're crowing about 3 games that we beat the M's, who perhaps are the only team who might end up having a worse offense than the White Sox??? Brilliant...the games are at home, we're not facing Cliff Lee or King Felix, but now we're clutch??? Seriously? At least the M's, though, have a philosophy, unlike the White Sox. Defense first, pitching, speed and fundamentals, just like the Twins, Angels and Rays.

''Not mechanical. It's more my mind,'' Beckham said. ''I'm not taking my BP into the game. When I'm getting in the game I feel like I'm a little rushed, I feel like my head is moving a little faster than it should. As opposed to being calm and just sitting in the box and let the ball come to me. ''I'm going to spread out a little bit, eliminate the lower half a little bit, and that's going to keep me locked in, a little quieter. Hopefully, that will help me be more accurate with the ball and make better decisions on pitches that are close and not close. That should help. I just have to do it in the games. It's all there.'' Guillen said Beckham would play in the series finale this afternoon, so it was obviously just a rest, not a punishment. And as far as if the club did put too much on Beckham's shoulders and could be ruining him, Guillen didn't think that was the case. ''No, this kid mentally is pretty tough about it, and he grew up with the right people around him,'' Guillen said. ''I don't want him thinking about, 'I'm the man here, I gotta do this, hit .350, I gotta do this, I gotta be the MVP.' No, he's got to go out and play his game the way he did when he was a little kid.'' www.suntimes.com/sports (cowley)

''[beckham] is trying to do too much, he's desperate to try to do good. This game is a marathon, it's not a sprint. A lot of people in Chicago think Gordon is the man of this ballclub. That's a bunch of crap. He's not. This kid has a long way to go. A couple of years ago he was playing college, and we did something that I don't think we should have been doing, which is put this kid like he's the savior of the White Sox for the next 30 years. It's not easy to handle that. He's struggling right now, and I hope it doesn't carry on to him to be the man. ''He's not the man, and he never will be the man. As long as I manage this ballclub, nobody is the man. There are 25 men out there, not just one. Because it will take 25 guys to win this thing, not one or a couple to win it. This kid has potential to be a great one. But when you're struggling you've got to sit back and relax, don't forget where you come from and do the same thing you've been doing your whole life.'' suntimes.com/sports (cowley)

Willie Randolph's not a bad option at all...I like it. As far as Melvin, it's hard to put my exact finger on it, I guess I'd feel the same way if he was named manager as I would about Buddy Bell or Mike Hargrove. I like the "new blood" guys that have retired in the last 5-10 years, rather than that 70's and 80's baseball generation. No doubt, however that Scioscia is one of the best, he came from those great Dodgers' teams of that era. And I really like Joe Maddon, too, old school guy, but with new/innovative ideas. Dave Martinez has the White Sox history, and it would be hilarious if we played the Cubs and Sandberg was managing. TMZ would have a field day with that story line.

Then I would send out FED EX'es with blank contracts to the following individuals and let them fill in the dollar amount...I would let them as a committee make the decision of who to hire as the next WS manager, it wouldn't be KW or JR. Mike Radcliff, Vice President of Player Personnel Rob Antony, Assistant General Manager Joe McIlvaine, Special Assistant to General Manager Tom Kelly, Special Assistant to General Manager Jack Goin, Manager, Major League Administration Amanda Daley, Manager, Scouting Administration Jim Rantz, Senior Director, Minor Leagues Brad Steil, Director of Baseball Operations Deron Johnson, Director of Scouting Joel Lepel, Minor League Field Coordinator Vern Followell, Pro Scouting Coordinator Kate Townley, Manager, Minor League Administration Particularly Radcliff, Antony (very experienced front office guy), McIlvaine, Rantz and Deron Johnson. Kelly would never leave the Twins' organization no matter how much you paid him, IMO. And KW's ego is so big he could never deal with "admitting defeat" and hiring front office members from the Twins, but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, as they say. After all, the Twins have used Guerrier, Rauch, Crede, O-Cab, Thome...a lot more than the White Sox have signed former "Piranhas." AJ Pierzynski is one of the few examples to counter with, where Twins' players have ended up in Chicago. We did come "THIS close" to signing Torii Hunter, I suppose that counts to some extent.

The White Sox have always been pretty cutting-edge in the front office... Why not Kim Ng, to have the first female major league baseball manager in history? WHY NOT? http://mlb.mlb.com/la/community/executives/ng.html Margie Wright (Illinois St. 1980-1985; Fresno St. 1986-2007): 1,253 wins 446 losses 3 ties JoAnne Graf (Florida St. 1984-07): 1,180 wins 397 losses 6 ties Gayle Blevins (Indiana 1980-87; Iowa 88-07): 1,136 wins 529 losses ties I think it would be really interesting to see what they could do? Could it really be worse than Guillen? It would be like if Pat Head Summitt or Geno Auriema of UCONN were to coach NCAA men's basketball or in the NBA...why couldn't they??? Sometimes MLB is too "conventional" (I agree with Ozzie) and goes time and time again to the "retread" managers over being innovative. If baseball can have GM's like Epstein, Jon Daniels, Jack Zdk. in Seattle, DePodesta, Ricciardi, etc. that have IVY LEAGUE and MBA/management/retail backgrounds, WHY NOT have an uncoventional managerial choice? By the way, here are six young "up and coming" future GM's between 31-35 years old. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb Notice that two of those guys have UMass-Amherst Sports Administration MA's. That's the best school in the country...when I went to Georgia Southern University in the 90's, it was probably the #2 program. I would love it if we could hire PRELLER from the Rangers' staff, it seems he has a great grasp of the Latin American market, a HUGE HUGE weakness for us since Ordonez and Carlos Lee.

Don't like Melvin much at all...

QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 10:54 PM) If he goes after the season, maybe La Russa comes back. Ozzie goes somewhere else - Braves? LaRussa wants a competitive team. And one of the highest 3 salaries among managers. Would JR break his 30 year tradition of having low salaried/inexperienced managers who aren't paid elite managerial salaries? Doubtful. But JR has a pretty good relationship with JR, and spending money there (on a truly elite level manager) makes more sense than wasting it on Juan Pierre, Mark Kotsay, Omar Vizquel and Scott Linebrink. Still, the greatest manager in baseball couldn't do much with this team as currently comprised. Actually, if they're going to outbit someone, they should have tried to pry Gardenhire away from the Twins after 2007. A couple of more "Soxie" names you can throw into mix: Fisk (DOUBTFUL), McDowell (JR has a testy relationship with him, so doubtful), Ventura (wait 3-5 more years for his kids to get older), Lance Johnson (my favorite all-time Sox player) and Chris Singleton. Ray Durham? Ron Karkovice? Seems former catchers are usually among the best managers, 40-50% of time.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 10:49 PM) Joel Skinner might be interesting. But, there's no point to "Fire Ozzie" threads now anyway. If he goes, it'll be after the season. Not so sure....Ozzie had a hard time dealing with 2007, and that season was really only atrocious for 2-3 months. This one has a chance to get out of hand in a hurry. Thankfully the Tigers came back to life and rallied from a 6-1 deficit or it would have been a 4 1/2 game lead already, with the Sox a scary 7 games back. Other than 1983, no Sox team has come back from a bigger deficit (they were 16-24, to end up 99-63) this early in the season to make it back into legitimate contention.

I'll reiterate. Ozzie, at the Ballpark in Arlington, one of the true hitters' paradises....started an AL (NOT NL) line-up with the worst cumulative OPS across the nine starting players (Pierre, AJ, Kotsay, Vizquel at 2 spot, Ramirez....even Quentin was in the mid 600's at the beginning of the game) in the HISTORY OF MLB after April 28th. We had only four legit (counting CQ despite the recent slump) threats in the line-up. Beckham and Jones were both sitting.

Here's a list to start with, feel free to argue/debate: Cora (no way) Walker (maybe he would be better than as a hitting coach?) Joel Skinnner (White Sox ties) Alan Trammell Steve Stone/DJ/Singleton (joking) Buddy Bell Don Cooper (I think Fathom and I are both in this camp) Don Baylor Bob Brenly Bobby Valentine Davey Johnson Don Mattingly Terry Pendleton

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-remingt...l_b_160456.html Why KW is going nowhere, although with THIS past off-season, you can argue that perhaps he has fallen into the "third tier." Ozzie Guillen, if you ranked all the managers if baseball 1-30, would be somewhere between 18-24 in IMO. Some would rank him 12-17 because of 2005 and 2008, but I personally am going more off 2nd half 2006, 2007, 2009 and 2010. He did a great job in 2008, that team was held together with duct tape and baling wire, I'll give him that.

I remember the battle at WSI as the 2006 second half and then mid season 2007 turned against the Sox and we fell back to mediocrity. There were so many posters labelling everyone as "DARK CLOUDS" when really, we were just being pragmatic and realistic, accepting the fact that the dreams of a "dynasty" on the SouthSide and surpassing the Cubs in some intangible way in terms of clout were evaporating. We've returned back to mean...it's just that our payroll indicates we should be in 1st or 2nd every year. It's (payroll dollars) simply not being allocated as wisely as possible...and when the margin of error is so razor thin (see Game 163 in 08 and 09) between the Sox, Twins and Tigers, every roster mistake (Kotsay over Thome, who has a 1.1+ OPS, bringing in Pierre over other options like Pods) is completely magnified.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 10:07 PM) Not surprised, we didn't really increase our team speed, especially when you consider Getz is way faster than Teahen. But Teahen is crafty (like Jose Valentin) and the best baserunner on the team, haha. Well, if you count Rios as a "new addition" in the offseason, as JR said (about Peavy and Rios), then we're faster. But Pierre is definitely slower than Getz and Pods now. Both of those guys beat out that last play IMO.