Everything posted by caulfield12
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(SoxGovernment @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 01:16 PM) wow im listening to the indians broadcast and there was a commercial for tequila and it said "if you want to dance like a retard then drink tequila" isn't the political correctness sensor going off? if Tiger gets criticized for saying he's acting like a "spazz" out there...well, whatever
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(zenryan @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 01:12 PM) Jose is a f***ing joke. when he pitches against a team that cant hit then he dominates. against teams that can hit, he pitches scared Last time I checked, the A's and the team he dominated last year (on the road, no less, in a critical series), namely the Tigers...after his injury even...if they played the way they're supposed to on defense, he would have 50-60 pitches and he wouldn't have to be careful with Sizemore or Hafner. This game feels a little bit like the Wednesday game against Oakland now. Whatever happens, we're pretty lucky to win one of three in CLE the way we're playing.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 01:11 PM) The the count from 04 has returned Well, I don't think any pitcher has watched 6 outs behind them blown in four innings and simply cruised through that game. One or two errors, sure, but three? In four innings?
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(Felix @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 01:07 PM) Reading these posts would lead one to believe the score was 25-0 Indians. Guys, its 1-0. I know the offense hasn't looked good (well, I know they haven't sounded good), but the game is still incredibly early and we are down only one run. Just wait. If we get out of this inning unscathed, we might actually win the game. But we're in trouble now with Sizemore up there.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:55 PM) 38-23 Bulls Crede just did something I was accusing BA of doing, lol.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:52 PM) Grinder boy at the plate I'M thinking Casey Blake Has to be Roberto Hernandez, just remembered.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:50 PM) This is how the entire team hits. So singling out BA for a fault that everyone has on this team is silly. Does he have a problem with low and away, sure. But so does Crede, Konerko, Dye, and the rest of the no hit bunch. They are all swinging for the concourse right now. Its time for Papa Jack or someone outside of our organization to take our hitting instruction over. They need something from outside the system, someone who teaches line drive hitting and OBP. Not swinging at everything. Firing Greg and then promoting some other lift and pull specialist from the system isnt going to work. Dye, Crede and Konerko are all at their most dangerous when they're gong back up the middle and into RCF with line drives. Anderson almost NEVER does this...unless he overswings and cues it off the end of the bat to the right side accidentally.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(Sonik22 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:50 PM) lol pablo Did we draft Trot Nixon in 1989?
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(beautox @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:41 PM) no worries, i wouldn't be supprised if they took a LHP because this draft is so deep, but they might also take Matt Wieters BA from April/May 2006 is back. Has he EVER taken an outside curveball, stayed with it and lined it over the 2B? Seriously. He tries to pull everything. You would think he would learn something from watching Rowand and Crede come through the system and have the same exact problems adjusting.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:39 PM) It is all lefthanders...Iguchi can't hit LHP. Uribe can't hit period. I'm starting to lean towards thinking Crede really isn't good hitter and just had 1 decent year. Dye looks old. Honestly, I think this is an old team and it's time to blow up significant portions of it. If they move Dye, Crede, and Buehrle for something decent and are willing to sign some FA position players the Sox could be good in 2008.... I agree. I started a long thread about it at SoxTalk last night..."what is KW planning to do"
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:39 PM) f***ing sick play by Juan. Is Nixon slower than Dye, Molina and Konerko? WOW.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:36 PM) Thanks I forgot the Royals rotation besides Meche, what the F**K why is Erstad here I hated the signing when it happened and I really hate it now F**k F**K F************K Because Ozzie and Hawk wanted....and KW tried to trade Garland for him. Thanks Disney.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:32 PM) WHAT Sabathia, Lee Sowers, Santana, Rogers, Maroth, when he gets healthy again Liriano, I'm sure the royals have a lefty who will dominate us With our luck, it will be Tyler Lumsden, lol. Well, Jorge DeLaRosa, Scott Elarton (when back healthy) and Odalis Perez. We lost to the crafy Adam Bernero, Runelvys Hernandez and Luke Hudson, among others.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(zenryan @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:29 PM) I swear, why do I even bother watching this team against lefties? Well, with Konerko, Dye, Crede, Hall, Iguchi, Uribe, etc., we should be pretty decent. It's not all lefthanders...it's just that Sabathia and Santana are that good, especially against the Sox.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:26 PM) Crede's swing there was the epitome of why we suck vs LHP. High outside pitch, and he gave himself no chance but to pull it in the air. Yes Welcome to Bataan Death March II: When the Sox Try to Pull Everything or Swing Out of Their A--es
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:23 PM) HE GAWN. Thank God. C'mon offense, 4 hit by pitches in a row? http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-e...p&type=lgns Brian Westbrook got paid his roster bonus TWICE. Reminds me of when KW trade for Berry and ended up with Barry accidentally in the Baldwin deal...not a highlight of his career.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:20 PM) Missed it, what happened? Crede had a double play ball he normally makes and it went off the tip of his glove into LCF as Uribe overran it going into the hole. Shortest double ever. Contreras looks like Charlie Hough out there right now.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:19 PM) NICE f***ING PLAY CREDE Man, the Sunday line-up hasn't even victimized us yet...and it's already close to being a turn off the tv and do something else afternoon.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:16 PM) Had a bad feeling about Molina handling the forkball. It's almost like catching a knuckler. This team is just really bad right now. I agree with Hawk, I'm thrilled we have the record that we do. Contreras' fastball looks like Jermaine Dye's swing and speed in RF.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:14 PM) Grady Sizemore bends us over again. These games are beyond depressing. Shouldn't we just walk him? I'm ALMOST being serious.
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White Sox vs. Indians, 4/15/07 (L)
QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 12:11 PM) lol, CC f***ing knows he owns us. Anyone willing to wage their house on this one by taking the Sox? I'm not sure which is the most likely...an Erstad 4 for 4 with no pulls to 2B or a White Sox winner? Who has the most hits today, Donnie Garko or Sizemore?
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Freddy Garcia start #1 Sunday thread...
QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 11:13 PM) Say, what happened the last time Freddy pitched in Houston? And to add to the fun, we have Brandon McCarthy also pitching today. Unfortunately, it's Sabathia for the Tribe. Well, everyone thought we would lose Monday in Oakland and look what happened... EDIT: Garcia's start (in Philly, not Houston) has been shelved...along with quite a few games today already
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Number of wins and attendance since 2000
QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 08:08 AM) They hate good baseball in Oakland? The Marlins, A's and Twins are the biggest "negative" anomalies, the Cubs and Orioles the unexplainable. Of course, you could say the same for White Sox fans...I think Chicago show relocate to Missouri and call itself the 'Show Me' City in terms of getting out and supporting the White Sox. It took a World Series, and we'll see how long the honeymoon period lasts for JR and KW.
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Where KW is going with this team
QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 10:16 AM) I know its early in the season but at this point I wouldnt have a problem losing Dye and Buerhle this offseason if they are planning on remaining agressive with free agents. Also, besides the Ichiro rumors, does anybody think we still may make a run at ARod? I don't think so. KW isn't going to spend $15-20 million on a player when he already has two 3B and Uribe, who's signed to a very reasonable $5 million option for next year (granted, we all know Uribe won't hit THIS well and be patient all season long, but is A-Rod worth $12.5 million more than Uribe?) The answer is maybe. And I would agree that A-Rod would be a lot more attractive option if Uribe replicated last year and went the Angel Berroa route. The concern I have is the competitiveness of the ballclub. I don't see us winning an open bidding war, and I don't see us giving up 2-3 key pieces of our team (I'm assuming any deal would involve Crede and pitching)...didn't we learn in 2005 that you trade 7-8 really good players for 3 "high salary" players (Valentin, Ordonez, Lee) and you're usually much better off? If the White Sox are going to be an 80 win team next year, the only way adding A-Rod makes sense is if you're very certain that the pitching will come around and you will have developed a legit #1 or #2 starter. Then you have a legit chance to win 90 games and compete for the playoffs. The Rangers dumped A-Rod simply because he simply doesn't pay for his salary on a non-playoff team. Unfortunately, they replaced him with a similar player in Soriano, instead of 2-3 prospects that could have improved the team across the board, as the White Sox did coming into 2005 as they reallocated their resources. Daniels is still making dumb moves, the biggest being Eaton for Chris Young, who is an affordable quality starter for the Padres now. And they gave up a lot to rent Carlos Lee and then turn around and lose him...leading to the desperation that was the McCarthy for Danks/Masset deal.
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Where KW is going with this team
QUOTE(beck72 @ Apr 15, 2007 -> 07:20 AM) The sox off season moves [that solidified their bullpen and rotation for the next few yrs] to me showed that there is no huge sell off coming. With strong enough pitching--and the sox arms in AA and AAA are strong right now--the sox can contend every yr no matter what the lineup looks like. The sox are trying to insulate themselves from rebuilding by getting their pitching staff [bullpen and starters] to be in the top 5 in the AL. And having the necessary depth to absorb key injuries. Whether the pitching can do it or not remains to be seen--I think the sox staff should be in the top 5 this yr though. I like KW's proactive approach and think it will work. It wasn't predicated on what the other AL central teams were doing or on injuries. But on making the sox a stronger long term team, without weakening the team in the short term. Even though a guy like Ichiro won't make the sox younger, he could make them better over the course of the next 4, 5 yrs than a guy like Dye. Of course it's predicated on the presence of three more bonafide WS contenders in your own division. If there was not competition, the White Sox could pretty much stand pat, win every division and generate an extra $25-40 in revenues and keep increasing the payroll and talent level. The reality is that the White Sox need to be protected on the downside...that a $50-60 million dollar rotation isn't/wasn't sustainable, and the team needed to be insulated from any hits they took in attendance in 2007 and 2008 while preparing for 2008/09 and another run at it. You can call it reloading instead of rebuilding. There's certainly no reason we can't be competitive IF KW makes the right acquisitions. But I think it will take 07 and 08 before we have another team capable of competing for the World Series title again. Also, after the new CBA is signed, the White Sox, as a new "high revenue" team, will be able to monetize their new status in Chicago by going out there and getting a player like Ichiro, something they haven't really tried since the David Wells move, and that was just a one year contract, not a 3-5 year deal.