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Ray Durhan had six seasons over a 3 fWAR including a 3.9

Who? TA? Robert? Vaughn? Jimenez now?

Too many co-dependent enablers going down with this ship it seems...

They're going to take Sheets for him? More likely will ask for Vera, Montgomery or Colas.

Why would the $$$/broadcast increase for the White Sox if nobody is interested in paying more? In fact, as it stands, a virtual monopoly is subsidizing the Sox by paying them considerably more than they're worth because JR also controls the Bulls and can utilize that leverage to his advantage to package both teams together with the Blackhawks.

Like Robert's breakout season...

Not Padres/White Sox lol?

MLB’s Biggest Untold Story Is Its Mass Appeal For Advertisers On Regional Sports Networks https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2022/05/16/mlbs-biggest-untold-story-is-its-mass-appeal-for-advertisers-on-regional-sports-networks/?sh=65e5159f3a1b

Cubs were down 25% yoy. White Sox clearly didn't register enough to get a sentence even...so one can assume slightly down and not Top 3 in Chicago. Cubs around the 6+ million mark from 2021 numbers in the 8's. https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2022/07/27/mlb-sees-year-over-year-regional-sports-network-viewership-flat-but-still-rules-primetime/?sh=b8f15346bea4

Sox had the third or fourth best record in baseball from 1990-2008. Just not much to show for all those second place finishes. Whereas Hahn has one of the three worst winning percentages during his tenure. And 2012 started out as a successful season, as they led the division the majority of the season.

If that was the case, they would give themselves, the Bulls and Blackhawks the biggest deals in the NBA, NHL and MLB. Who is competing to drive the price up? Well, the Marquee Network for one, with the amount they charge. How many subscribers are going to put up with a $7.50-10.00 monthly charge if they only like the Cubs and Bears?

https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2022/06/16/report-bulls-blackhawks-and-white-sox-thinking-about-starting-their-own-network/ If they stick with the current arrangement, the Sox disastrous heading right now as a franchise means they will get the worst possible deal. So for those thinking re-rebuild or do over...it's never going to happen in a million years. Longer time frame is the stadium deal itself from 2027-29. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/6/16/23171260/white-sox-bulls-blackhawks-nbc-sports-chicago-jerry-reinsdorf-bally-marquee-sinclair-rsn-dtc

It worked once. 2003-2008. But really only 2005, plus Carlos Quentin, whose self-inflicted njury wiped out any playoff chances in the Trop Dome. The one time we stood up and overcame the Twins. Aided greatly by Hahn's kid on the coin flip for HFA.

The Dayan Viciedo of this generation lol. Well, if Trayce Thompson is starting for the Dodgers..

A-ROD bidding?

Exactly. I can't think of many managers who would move the meter much on ticket sales, either. Maddon, his time has passed. Bochy might not want the headaches. Beltran has that checkered past but a recognizable name. Alomar Jr. has always been expected but a second place finisher for managerial jobs. Next we will be rectifying the Willie Harris wrong.

You're forgetting they have one of the most favorable media rights deals in the sport. And somehow that gets obscured in their ownership structure with NBC Universal, the Bulls, Blackhawks, etc. Unfortunately, the last deal signed was for just five seasons, with everyone believing the next negotiation would come right in the middle of their unprecedented multi championship window. If they miss the playoffs again or substantially roll back payroll, they're more dead in the water than 2013-2019. This is about ownership, though. The Padres were the laughing stock of mlb a year ago and doubled down to get Soto and Drury. They simply replaced one Top 5 with another one. They had enough allowance for Bell and Hader to flop...Drury (less money for renting a 30+ homer guy two months than Leury by far) and having adequate middle infield and pitching depth. They have a third string catcher in Alfaro picked up for almost nothing who has individually won five games by himself...more than Robert and Moncada combined.

You're missing a key Texas high school football player who can do can backflips on stage.

You want to play Sosa at second? Guaranteed we're bottom 3-5 in ops at that position again. At least get a Wong/Huira type with some upside remaining.

He also consistently fielded entertaining teams that put runs on the board more often than not from 2000-2012.

Valentin C-Lee Magglio departing and freeing up all that payroll space and firming up the speed/defense, along with F.Garcia/Contreras added earlier...led to the most perfect offseason of all in Sox history. One that will never be matched again in the analytics era when the competitive edge is so slim now.

They were trying to reboot on the fly behind Robertson Cabrera LaRoche Shark etc. Win the off season, etc. Formed the Drake Eaton/Chris Sale circus to oblivion with Ventura unwilling to control the clubhouse, not unlike TLR these last two years. The next big move, so-called, was Todd Frazier.

Also highly competitive in 2008 10 12 even with the Dunn debacle, which really sealed KW's fate, and Ozzie/Buehrle leaving. Of course, one of the major elephants in the room here is race, which nobody wants to admit, at least not openly. I have argued this entire time that Hahn has never once been a talent evaluator...he's merely a glorified bean counter with a KPMG/E&Y/McKinsey look who rode three trades, Luis Robert and promise/hope/change/possibility to five or six more years of contract he didn't deserve. Tatis Jr. should have been the end of the line.

2 1/2 and 4 games up with eight to play and three with the White Sox and Giants each. Philly ends up at Houston...Brewers home rest of the way. Actually, looking like 4th place now will be the Mets instead of the Braves.

Trea Turner or Judge, but we won't shell out for either top of the market guy.