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It's not quite a mop, it's not quite a puppet, but man....

vCash won't work on invision board.

Let's play a game of "How will the Clones blow their season"....I'm an ISU fan, I'm used to it. Being at 3-0 and beating the only ranked team that had shown up on the schedule. ISU could and won't go undefeated. But just how will their hopes be deflated? Play along.... S3 ILLINOIS STATE W, 32-21 S10 IOWA (ABC) W, 23-3 S23 at Army (ESPN2) W, 28-21 O1 at Nebraska* (ABC) 2:30 p.m. O8 BAYLOR (F)* 1 p.m. O15 at Missouri* TBA O22 OKLAHOMA STATE (H)* TBA O29 at Texas A&M* TBA N5 KANSAS STATE* TBA N12 COLORADO* TBA N26 at Kansas (FSN)* 11:30 a.m.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) Ya, there new running back has actually done a very good job. OSU just shut down every aspect of Iowa's offense. Iowa State did that as well, but without Drew date for roughly 3 quarters. I still say, Iowa has Tate and they would be 3-1 at this point. That being said, they are nowhere near as good as Ohio State or Michigan State and would get clobbered if they played them at home or on the road (maybe they could come close to MSU because I like Tate's ability to get in a scoring match with them and I think the Iowa defense has some playmakers and should gel). We shall see though. I think 8 wins at most for my Hawkeyes this year. Get over Tate's injury. He played like crap before he got knocked out. I have been impressed by Young and Schlicher more than anybody. Young ain't new, just unhurt. Until Iowa's D-Line stops getting pushed around, the Hawks are still in trouble. That and the fact the WR corps has disintegrated. I think Hinkel and Solomon have regressed. I'm just glad the heats being turned up on players such as Brian "I'm the coach's son, but hey, that doesn't mean I can't live on the state's dollar in subsidized housing intended for low income students" Ferentz. What a f***in joke. The guy from my hometown has cash out the wazoo but he was in the subsidized housing too.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 04:32 PM) And school administrators, I agree way overpaid. Give that money to the poor fools in the trenches. Ditto.

Just on an aside, this stuff is neat to talk about, and more people should care, because I think a lot of people underestimate just how big an impact schooling makes.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) I was always under the impression that average income in the community/house prices were positively correlated teacher pay. Fun fact about my town! Means a lot of these kids are ERP or Free and Reduced Lunch. That notion of the lower socioeconomic status would tend to lend itself to lower test score, but in most cases on ITBS tests and ITEDs (God the standardized testing got old) the ERP students scored in line with the rest of the students (roughly 30-40% are Free and Reduced lunch, it's used as a benchmark in the SD). Or course, IED (individualized education for special needs) lagged behind, but the improvements over past years were impressive. See, I hang around these people and I get redorkulated.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) Jim's daughter is a counselor in Bolingbrook making $28K, his son's wife is one in Romeoville making $32K. Would those area's be considered wealthy.. I'm not sure, but I know there are neighborhoods in both where $300K houses are the norm. A girlfriend of mine is a teacher in Chicago making just over $60K (been teaching for just under 10 years). I wouldn't call Lyons "wealthy" but the average there is among the highest at $80K and the Admin average in Joliet shocks me at $99K. I always got the impression that the "rougher" the job, the more they made. How tenured are the first two?

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 26, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) The list of all of them is way long, but there are some making in the 30k range in Illinois. I'd believe it. They dip into the 20k range in Iowa for district wide full time teachers, with a 39k statewide average. I always thought it was weird that the football team and basketball teams got new jerseys regularly, the administrators were getting pay bumps, but yet we had to buy our own tennis stuff (polos and etc.) and had to literally steal the supplies away from other sports (tape, bandaids, etc---came in handy when i got hit in the face with a racket). We even had to buy tennis balls to practice with. Although I suppose we can fund a sport with 350 dollars that is meant to cover travel costs and any entry fees.

Avg teacher salary at my HS: $41,673

I think it would be a better idea if we could apply it only to the sports bar. I think Kap's brain would literally hemmorhage if we put in anything like this. The streamline effect of this cow we call Soxtalk is something we want to keep. Plus it's something that becomes people judging other people and stuff like that, similar to a karma thing. Not saying we'll never do it, just not likely. Usually if there's an uproar for something, it'll happen, but I don't forsee this. But just to make sure, is the IBStore the similar concept, HG?

As a school board member, I got a lot of this stuff during my senior year. I would say that the average teacher in my hometown makes upper 30K-lower 40k, with only the most tenured teachers above 50k. I thought it was ridiculous that when my mom managed a gas station, she made more than the teachers at my HS, including the ones who had been there 30+ years. Kind of off on a tangent.... I had been keeping an eye on this, and I'd be interested in your opinions. In IA, Gov. Vilsack has been pushing, and the IA legislature has passed a "No Pass-No Play" rule concerning athletics (but not) other activities. Basically put, anyone wanting to participate in athletics must pass all classes. My old HS had a rule where you had to pass (4 or 5, I can't remember) to participate in activities, including sports. Keep in mind, the band program at my HS got 10x the funding of the tennis programs, while being allocated only less than the football team. Why a band needs to take out of state trips every 2 years is beyond me. Here's where I come at odds with the superintendent and HS principal. I think it's poppycock, for lack of a better term, to allow an athlete to pass 4 or 5 classes (including übereasy courses such as Econ and history/government classes in the required curriculum) while failing one or two, especially since the student can determine the classes he/she is taking. HS ain't that hard, especially back home, where you literally had to try for an F. I'm as big a sports nut as anyone, but I am starting to think the board and administrators are starting to focus too much on athletics, when 1/4 to half of a typical meeting as the year wore down last year related to athletics, as more and more activites and events were catered to the football team, for example.

Hudler makes my ears bleed.

Oh no! Not an attendance thread! BANNED! All of you!

I have a tough time seeing why the Big Ten is tied with the Big East....

Today over at http://www.minorleagueball.com, John Sickles will be taking my suggestion for this. Anyone with any interest may want to check his site today.

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QUOTE(bighurt2719 @ Sep 21, 2005 -> 08:21 AM) If this site were to market itself to advertisers it could easily cover all the costs it had. in return all you would have to do is have a few ads on the site. im not an administrator, but if you read this and you are, maybe it's worth considering. i think soxtalk should be free...and with the amount of posts that are on this site there is no reason why you all couldn't find advertisers. other blogs i post on do this. just a suggestion to raise some cash for the site. I'd be lying if I'd said we hadn't considered it. We've only had one true revenue producing ad in the past. The current ones are not for profit, and then there was the White Sox one. Of course, it'll be a thought-out decision if we ever do. May ask the posters for input, if the situation ever arises. But we certainly aren't going to be intrusive. As of now, there's just the donations button at the bottom of the page.

That's why I pull for him.

Rally Crede on deck will inspire Uribe.

RC time.... I'm surprised Timo isn't up....or he may be with my MLB.tv lag

Rally....Crede....

Bring in Baj. I'm serious. He can't do worse than half the pen. Oh....and Rally Crede time.

The complaint on Chris Young was that he was vulnerable to a low breaking ball I believe. Certainly doesn't stop some from starting.

Let's go RC.