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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 05:02 AM) This is so much better than signing bad white players... What about bad Hispanic, African American, or Finish players? Well, I guess Finish players would be considered "white"... so, uh... yea.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) BA posted a list of 2018 draft prospects to get familiar with. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2018-...list/?amphtml=1 Very interesting that they list 5 positional players ahead of Beer and Gray isn't one of them.

He also got a kind shout out from Garfin and Hayes on the most recent CSN podcast released around 3am cst

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 07:32 AM) Hawk referred to Samardzija and Sale as the "Captains of Attitude" in 2015. In his honor, I will refer to Shields as the "Captain of Tank" Totally awesome.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 01:03 AM) Jimenez a good starting point just don't like the rest of the deal. If he isn't a big time player this deal is an epic fail imo. It's underwhelming even in comparison to the Sale deal where I don't think we got as much as we should have. With Sale I would have tried to sweeten the deal with something like Sale + Jones for Moncada, Devers, Kopech. Quality over quantity. Jones was expendable and was an attractive add for a contender in the offseason. Point being by himself he's not going to bring a Devers back so if that puts us over the top why not just do it? Not many opportunities to add prospects like that. I don't trust our evaluation of middle/lower tier prospects yet. Not enough of a track record for me to trust they can pick diamonds in the rough like the best organizations can. They have been too bad at that for too long. They can let their results do the talking. Yea man - I get the whole Devers thing but from what I've read the Red Sox weren't trading him for anything, he was reportedly off the table. Also... all prospects are "wait and see" - it's just a probability proposition. We're going to be playing a lot of "wait and see" game soon over the next couple years at least, on a lot of fronts. Put two fingers up, look at your hand, and call it a night.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:38 AM) Potential. The key word there. And that guy is a single A pitcher you're talking about. For an ace caliber starter on one of the best deals in baseball for years to come. Don't like the deal. For the record - I hated the Shields deal with a passion, was ok with/mildly disappointed with no Devers inclusion in Sale deal, loved the Eaton deal, disappointed with this one. Cease already had Tommy John too. Holy s*** I like this deal less and less. Cubs robbed us I can't believe it. I'm with you 1000% on hating the Shields move... I was one of the most vocal about it. We just don't see eye to eye on this deal. Two fingers.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:28 AM) Not enough for gift wrapping the Cubs another World Series. Would have liked to see another top prospect rather than 3 fillers. Quality over quantity. Disappointed with the return. Would have rather kept Q until we saw what we have with the newest additions at the big league level before accepting this kind of return. More disappointed with this one than the returns for Sale or Eaton. Especially if you are giving him to the Cubs you've got to get a better deal than this. A top 50 - 65 league wide prospect with the potential to be a top of the rotation SP is "filler"?

QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 12:04 AM) Does anybody know if we have a shot at getting a competitive balance pick if we suck enough. On MLB they say it is a formula including standing and revenue generated but really don't go into further detail. Based on how I interpreted the competitive balance rules when they came out - we're considered a large market team regardless of standings and have no shot at a pick... however, someone more knowledgeable should chime in because I'm not 100% certain.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) That's all speculation, they're all responsible. I don't wanna hear about how Hahn is exempt from the team being hot trash for as long as they have. The odds of the Sox ever seeing another talent like Sale coming through their system is extremely small yeah i'm salty af, but our front office is garbage until they prove otherwise. congratulations, you've traded for other teams prospects wake me up in 2 years when the big league club is something besides trash To correct you, ummmm... good Sir.... I don't believe any soxtalk posters have made any trades. I'd say, "enjoy your seething" but that anger certainly doesn't look comfortable. Owie.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) I always found tin foil hats itchy. +1 ( potential for distracting from baseball discussion

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 06:02 PM) I spoke with several Sox and Cub fans around town today and to a man, every cub fan liked the trade and every so fan was madder than he11. Why make a trade that helps the cubs...in any way shape of form? Hahn had other alternatives. Tanto

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 05:13 PM) Hell, you can control me for half that! I'll take 1% of that

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) it's just hilarious that we actually found this last night Jose Abreu for the win

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) http://deadspin.com/katyperrysbootyhole-an...inta-1796888271 https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/7/13/1...yhole-wetbutt23 Deadspin and SB nation giving credit to the buttholes. Juvenile humor will not be tolerated make national news.

It'll be interesting to see ptatc weigh in with his knowledge banana bombs

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:31 PM) I hate the banner . Bunch of superstitious poop youz guys are crapping Seriously ! Perhaps there is a filter that's IP board provides that mods could set that 4 letter word to display as ****. Toilet problems would then be solved and trades could still be broke citing the correct source. Wetbutt23 for life. ( maybe that could be turned into a banner of homage ).

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) Not when you have that big ol' Tank for Beer watchamacallit ! Please don't invite conversations to meander into the realm of candy bar aficionados... as this thread is about THE trade... and distractions from serious baseball discussion here are not appreciated. Kudos are looked down upon and are not tolerated. That said, looking forward to watching Eloy tonight... you?

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) Post Highly valuable addition. I commend your great effort and wish you well in all endeavors as your path to greatness unfolds.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) Passan was on the Score and thought Dodgers would go after Britton, Doolittle and a righty. Made it sound like they want to add three relievers. Damn. They'd be scary good but I really think they need a SP.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:22 PM) Can I ask a favor to please leave Beer off these lists. You are confusing the novices and it just looks odd him being among players we already have. If you just squint your eyes, it magically goes away.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) I will be a big Cubs fan when Q faces the Pirates +1

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 02:46 PM) Don't even get me started on the potential of blowing our wad on a big time free agent. I don't know if I could handle our roster adding a Machado or Harper. C - Collins 1B - Sheets/Beer 2B - Moncada SS - Anderson 3B - Burger/Machado RF - Garcia/Harper CF - Robert LF - Jimenez DH - Sheets/Beer/Burger Holy F*ck If we land Harper, I hope wetbutt24 breaks that news.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 02:39 PM) Are we drinking the 2020 coolaid yet? C- Collins 1B - Sheets/Beer 2B - Moncada SS - Anderson 3B - Burger RF - Garcia CF - Robert LF - Jimenez DH - Sheets/Beer Bench - Basabe/Adolfo Kopech/Giolito/Lopez/Hansen/Cease/Dunning/Adams/Guerrero/Stephens/Flores Burdi/Fulmer Drinking the Coolaid by the gallon Absolutely. Anyone who doesn't pan out can be supplemented by FA signings, since we'll have about 80mm+ to spend year over year.

Mayo says burger, sheets, and skoug will all be top 100 on new list

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 12:59 PM) Who's Beer again? The next Bryce Harper according to some - a college kid who won't hit in the bigs according to others