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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) I always knew you were a commie. Коммунизм это единственный способ.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 05:02 PM) They're not the tea party movement...but the tea party movement doesn't appear unless they get involved. On issue after issue, the Tea Party gets riled up on classic Republican issues, classic republican talking points, and they show up when a Republican leader or Fox News calls on them to do so. You want another great example? Take a look at the tea party victories. Every single time, what has been the sin that has gotten a politician in trouble with the Tea Party? It wasn't supporting Bush's Massive expansion of Medicare in 2003, it wasn't earmarks, it wasn't anything like that...it has been people who voted with the Democrats too often. It has been being too centrist. The Races in Utah, Deleware, Florida, Alaska, New England, everywhere that there is a "tea party uprising!" candidate, the Tea Party candidate won because the Tea Party didn't want them ever working with Democrats. Mike Castle, Robert Bennett, Danny Tarkanian, Charlie Crist, and on and on. Hell, Lisa Murkowski is in the right-right wing of the Republican Party and she was replaced by a Tea Party candidate on the argument that she worked with the Democrats too often. Scott Brown kind of just used the Tea Party's wave and then when he actually won the election he did whatever the f*** he wanted to do. And good for him.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 10:21 AM) Well, I'm sure she's read Das Kapital and some of Marx' other works, I trust her evaluation. Really, it's just the standard socialism/communism/marxism/leninism/maoism/stalinism conflation. I actually read some Marx in high school and there is some stuff he said that can hardly be defined as "evil" and some of it we even do now. Some of his criticisms of capitalism were pretty hard to argue against - does anyone really think child labor should be allowed or that workers shouldn't be paid a living wage and the owners are the only ones rightfully entitled to the profits of that work? Marx also did his work when there were only a handful of democratic countries in the world and most people would be surprised to know that Marx believed democracy was the only legitimate, justifiable form of government. It was the Communist movement in the 20th century that really f***ed up his image as someone who says some things that should be taken seriously, now nobody bothers to try to tell the difference. Disclaimer: this comment shouldn't be read as me endorsing Communism or full-on Marxism

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 08:56 AM) Here's the problem with labeling a guy as a bust because he's not a dominant player out of the 14th slot in the draft. Even the top 10 picks have a legitimate "out of football within 5 years" bust rate of above 30%. Pick a draft from a few years ago, go back, and see the kind of guys there. Yes, in every draft you'll find an Adrian Peterson and a Jake Long in the top 10, that's why those picks are highly valued, but you can't ignore the fact that even if you wind up with the #1 pick, there's a pretty darn good shot that you'll be overpaying a guy who won't be your best player at that position in 3 years. So you want to land a star when you draft at #14. You're correct in hoping so. But any team that wins on every pick in their first round for 3-4 years in a row is a Super Bowl caliber team. If a guy taken at #14 winds up as a solid starter at some position, I think you count that as a win. The number of legitimate stars taken at #14 in the past decade or so that I saw after looking was 1: Revis by the Jets. I saw a number of good players, like Shockey, Bunkley, Tommie Harris, and some number of failures too: Kenyatta Walker, Michael Haynes. You want to wind up getting the Revis, but drafting at 14, there has been 1 of him in the last decade. BTW, the Bears have drafted at #14 3 times in the past decade. That might bias my sample, and that's really weird. This is more or less saying the same thing as "the chances of taking a bust are 1 in 3" or "every team occasionally drafts busts in the first round" which is still a true statement, but even if the Colts pick a WR in the first and he never amounts to s*** in the NFL, he's still a bust and the Colts probably want that pick back.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 11:49 PM) I guess when I hear "franchise player" I consider it to mean one of the best players on the team. I think guys like Ogden and Pace. I would consider a guy "solid" if he started for 5 years. Might just be difference on how we are using the words. Yeah probably. When I say "franchise" I mean you are "the guy" at that position and one of the better players at that position in the league, but not necessarily top 5-caliber.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 08:50 PM) If you pick a LT in the top 1 or 2 you expect them to be a franchise player. If you pick a LT at 14 and they are the 3rd lineman taken in the draft, you are just hoping for a guy who is solid. Unfortunately Clady and Long went before Williams, but I never was a big Williams fan. Thought he could potentially be solid but never expected him to be a franchise LT. If you use a first rounder in the top half on anybody, ever, you expect them at a minimum to be a starter for the next 5-10 years and possibly a Pro Bowler. Less than that is a bust. That particular draft was loaded with OL, relative to other drafts.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 06:58 PM) Really? You know I am a Hoosier. How much more help do you think I need? Someone didn't think their post all the way through huh?

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 08:57 AM) How are you doing it? Cuz i'd love to try something out in my car for my trips to and from work (45 mins each way). I can already speak French and have actually heard Italian is easy to pick up if you can speak that already. It's broken down into levels (the ones you buy) which are broken down into units (Basics, Greetings, Work and School, Shopping for example is the one on mine right now) which are broken down into lessons. The core lesson is about 30 minutes, where it teaches you new stuff, and each lesson between those is 10 or 15 minutes. No English, it's just all pictures, sometimes it'll show you a new vocabulary word directly, sometimes you just deduce it because it'll say something like "the man is wearing a hat" and you already know "hombre" and "somebrero" but not "llevando." Only thing it doesn't tell you is how to conjugate verbs and whatnot, and there is nobody there to explain it to you in English which is kind of a pain in the ass but it does get you up to a conversational level pretty fast. QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 05:01 PM) itunes has a ton of podcasts on learning other languages. this. I myself need to find something to teach me new vocabulary words. That's the hard part and the tedious part.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 11:54 AM) http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/20...ceBook%2F%2F%2F Maybe I should kill myself because I'm black

My first reaction to Williams at LG was WTF. Omiyale has been better at LT than he was at LG but that's virtually saying nothing, but of the two, you pick Omiyale to play LT because he was so unbelievably bad when he was tried at that position you don't even consider the thought. It might actually be a pretty good thing with Williams on the inside because he is big, and his athleticism comes in handy when pulling and things like that. Plus he played some guard at Vanderbilt. Still, when you spend the 14th pick on a lineman you pretty much expect him to be your franchise LT, you don't pick guards that early, so hopefully he is only playing out of necessity and not because the coaches have concluded he can't play LT.

Yeah... I mean... Tillman is not an All-Pro corner but people have been making s*** up about him for about 4 years. It's the same things you hear about him every year pretty much.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 12, 2010 -> 08:20 PM) Moss still catches a lot of stuff. Where has Tillman declined that Moss hasn't? Tillman is basically the same player now that he was in 2004. However many years older Tillman is now (6), Moss has aged the same number of years. And Moss has been in the NFL for 5 more years than Tillman has.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 12, 2010 -> 08:07 PM) Except Tillman's 1/2 the player that he was when he played Moss previously. Moss is no spring chicken either.

Also Favre's arm is definitely bothering him. You notice how hard he has to wind/heave into throws that used to be routine for him, he puts all his arm into a throw over the middle that doesn't even come out that hard. He used to be able to flick up bombs with no effort.

Vikings fans keep talking about Favre's "500" milestone and I keep seeing some posting/bragging about it on Facebook and on trash talk pages and whatnot but this makes zero sense to me. How many of those TD passes did he actually throw as a Viking? 38... out of 500, like 8%. As a Packer AGAINST the Vikings, he threw 54... yeah...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 12, 2010 -> 06:15 PM) In what sense? If you're specific like "a guy who will come up to the bigs 1 month after being drafted" you're probably right, because that is pretty darn rare. If you're saying a guy who can be a legitimate contributor rapidly...you might be wrong. This is constantly talked about as a deep draft coming up next year; even though Sale fell to us, there's every reason to believe that there can be real talent available in the latter 1/2 of the first this year. I was just referring to a top 10 pick/potential franchise player although in hindsight when I wrote that I was thinking of Sale as a top 10 pick when he wasn't. My more general point was that we had a better season but only nominally and we don't even get the draft pick as consolation. I'm not one of the people who says "tank the season for draft position," but I think that's a valid thing to bring up when we're comparing what a difference of 9 wins means. It's like a few years ago when the Bears won some meaningless games at the end of the season and dropped down a couple slots in the draft - they would've taken Ryan Clady with that pick instead of Chris Williams. Them's the breaks though.

Somehow, Rosetta Stone works. Granted, I had 2 years of Spanish that is scattered throughout my memory in high school, and I don't know how it'd work for a non-Romance language, but I've only been using it for about 4-5 days and it's starting to stick.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 12, 2010 -> 05:02 PM) LOL, yea, a 79 win season is the same as an 88 win season. To be honest, the failure at the end of the season felt exactly the same, just a little later. 88 wins looks respectable at the end of the year but they went on a ridiculous hot streak (against mostly weak NL teams, excluding 2 vs. the Braves), and we knew some time in August that this team was done. Then once they were in fact done, they won a bunch of games that didn't matter. Had we done anything against our division this might've turned out different and left more margin for error, but we blew it harder than I've ever seen a team blow it and covered it up with some feel-good wins at the end of the season. The only real difference I see between the 79 win season and the 88 season is that in 2011 we probably won't draft a Chris Sale.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 11, 2010 -> 09:54 PM) So, after years and years of mocking these people, I have decided that this year, I will join them, as I get up early AM for Black Friday sales to get a new widescreen TV. See if you can get a deal on newegg.com, I got a sweet deal on a stereo receiver last year that I incidentally returned because I found out my dad already had one.

Vintage Favre.

You guys bring up the Jackson/Hudson thing in EVERY THREAD and there's only like 1 post here about how it might factor into getting Crawford, i.e. the topic of this thread. You're f***ing killing me.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 10, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) I know he is a rookie but Clausen looks horrible Given the choice I'd still take him over Collins, easy (for this game)

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 10, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) Let's not forget in our hatred of Collins that Hanie isn't very good, either. Collins doesn't have any future in the NFL, at least we can evaluate Hanie.

I feel bad for Collins, it's not like he's underachieving or making bad decisions. He just sucks.

3 interceptions against an 0-4 team in the first half. Todd Collins is fun bad.