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Anderson 2-3, double tonight

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2016 -> 07:09 PM) Fire Hahn, hire McLeod. Give Renteria two years. Can Kenny and Buddy go too?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2016 -> 07:04 PM) We're back to the "do we really want them to win OR do we actually want to see how many losses they can absorb before they have no choice but to do something about it?" Feels like 2013-2015 all over again. These same debates. Incredible. The Sox are never going to be a good organization until they tear it down to the studs and bring in good baseball people- scouts, instructors, management, etc. So, never.

I want them to win, but I kinda want to see what happens or doesn't happen if they come home from Detroit under .500.

Sox win 5-3. Latos goes 7. Please?

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 31, 2016 -> 04:29 PM) Pretty much exactly why I've avoided this board like the plague this past week. I understand people being upset with the recent play (I am too), but this board just becomes a cesspool of whining and despair in times like this, and that makes for a s***ty board experience, especially since the crowd of "I told you so" posters that seem to take some kind of twisted pleasure in seeing the Sox lose often take over. Whining about whiners is way more annoying.

Eaton, Lawrie, Abreu, Frazier, Cabrera, Garcia, Saladino, Navarro, Latos

Granderson RF Cabrera SS Conforto LF Cespedes CF Walker 2B Loney 1B Flores 3B Plawecki C Matz P

QUOTE (harkness @ May 31, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Is it "perspective" or denial? I'm not saying I know for sure...but I have trouble (taking the last 4 years plus this losing streak) to not see it as denial. That's a good way of looking at it. If the Sox were a good organization the last four years and this same scenario happened (starting 23-10, then 4-15), we'd be pissed, but probably chalk it up to baseball gods, and we'll bounce back. Under the Ventura Era, this scenario is just more of the same suckage.

This team needs a 6-game winning streak in the worst way. Just get back to winning ball games, and everyone will start feeling good about our chances again. But if they don't win a game on this trip, a move has to be made.

The month ends today, so that's good.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 30, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) I'd say 90 or more losses. Total tank job. We have four months left for gosh sakes. Think of how many losses are coming?? We're almost at the 1/3 mark. It just depends on whether they become buyers or sellers over the next 8 weeks. 75-82 wins...somewhere in there. It really doesn't matter though. No playoffs is no playoffs. Just going over .500 when you're trying to make the playoffs is meaningless.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) Pretty sure everyone said the same thing after last season. I guess we'll be right eventually? The difference is his contract is up. Reinsdorf generally doesn't pay for two managers at a time.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 30, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) Agree on the first, disagree on the latter. Agreed. Short of making the playoffs, he's done after this season.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ May 30, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) This team sucks. What a great mirage at the beginning of the season. And no excuse for what has happened over the last three weeks. This isn't regressing to the mean. It's bigger than that.

De Aza is batting 6th for them, so that's the counter move.

Yeah, Kahnle isn't on the card today.

Roster move pending Shuck addition

Interleague is tied 40-40, with the Sox playing their first game tomorrow (weather permitting) AL Central teams are 19-18 KC 4-4 Cle 5-5 Det 8-4 Min 2-5

The micro-evaluation of Robin doesn't even need to continue. His tenure has been bad. That's all that needs to be said. Time for a new voice.

How's this going?

Must score this inning, or they'll probably cough it up again.

Levine on the Score now, defending Ventura. Typical Cubs fan media guy that just thinks about his his own comfort as a media guy. Easy guy to deal with...good manager. Chicago sports media is garbage.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 28, 2016 -> 10:11 PM) This is an 82 win team IMO, don't think it matters whether it's Ozzie or Robin or anyone else So even if part of the 23-10 start was luck, it was perfectly ok if they go 59-70 after that because they were destined for 82-80 with decent health? I'm not buying it. After 23-10 and beating some good teams in the process, 90 wins should have been realistic. They should have been able to tread water for 60-70 games, still been in first place, then make a couple good trades to supplement what they already had.

I could see some frustrations come out today if the opportunity presents itself.