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QUOTE (ptatc @ May 7, 2014 -> 01:50 PM) This is true. However a few points. I'm not sure that saying someone who was better this year will be better next year. You will need a pattern of 5 years or so to determine this and I bet I could look at the "basic" stats and tell this as well. Even with those numbers did you really think that Phillips was better than Trout. I don't need any numbers to tell me that. Also if you use the runs scored +RBI -HR formula Trout winds up with 179 and Phillips 165, so even that shows Trout had a better year. Also, in the dawning age of non- (or decreased) PED usage, not all players will be able to put up great numbers across the board. So I think players will need to be separated out. It's kind of like comparing a WR to an RB in football. Players are going to sort themselves into the OBP specialists and others in the SLG groups and there will only be the select few that can do both and this will be obvious. The only problem is that Trout was better by a lot and it's not even close.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 7, 2014 -> 12:48 PM) Correct. However, that is the game of baseball. You cannot control everything to win the game. So why make up a stat that doesn't use it. It came about so agents can get more money for their client because "he did what he could control" nothing else really matters. That is not why sabermetrics exist today, not even close. Weeding out dependent variables in the equation is behind most statistics in general. Because it allows us to evaluate current production and predict future production. There's nothing wrong with trying to objectively look at a player's performance. That has nothing to do with sports agents. Just because you can't weed out every dependent variable doesn't mean you shouldn't try to. That's such a complacent attitude. Stats like wOBA have a much higher correlation to player value and talent than RBI and Runs. Why? Because it's less dependent on what other players do. Why wouldn't you try to isolate player performance? Baseball is an extremely individual sport.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2014 -> 12:41 PM) 1 week ago, Rizzo had 3 homers 10 rbi and a .797 OPS. Abreu had 10 homers 32 rbi and a .960 OPS. That could be the reason there hasn't been this much deserved Rizzo-mania for which Bernstein is apparently campaigning all season long. It's also hard to get excited about the Cubs in general.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 7, 2014 -> 12:29 PM) Exactly. His points are spot on, but they're delivered in a package of "screw you for being happy about something, idiots." Having moved from Chicago fairly recently (February), I've been away from the local hype train. All of what he's saying has been pretty obvious through the lense of the indifferent NY media. Is everyone really freaking out in Chicago over Abreu enough to warrant this kind of article? I tend to agree with Bernstein on a lot of stuff, but he is just a douche in a can.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ May 7, 2014 -> 12:35 PM) i know rizzo is 24 and abreu is 27, but hes still a rookie seeing these pitchers for the first time. look at rizzos numbers his first 3 years. im pretty sure he knows abreu has more talent and has been better but its just as mentioned, to stir the pot and hes getting exactly what he wants. I personally think Abreu is far better, and going to be far better than Rizzo. Rizzo's heated up like this before, only to come crashing down. Now, he is only 24 and he does have talent, but using a small sample size to try and make a point like Bernstein did isn't what I'd call good statistical analysis.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 7, 2014 -> 11:42 AM) The problem I am having with Dan Bernstein is that I picture him watching a game, seeing the result and then looking at the advanced stats to see if he should be happy with the result. I like sports I really do but at the end of the day the s*** that seems to now go back and forth now a days takes away from the enjoyment. I want to like Avasail Garcia but I can't because he hits too many ground balls and not enough fly balls. Sports are entertainment, tanking with the hope that in five years everything will be roses and p****cats mystifies me. That would be like taking a television away from someone that really likes television by telling them in four years, they may get the mother of all televisions. I get that it is a business and teams do things with the bigger picture in mind but I want my three hours of daily entertainment. That is all I seek from sports. At the end of the day my life is no better the following morning after a teams win or lose. This goes for the fall of 2005 as well. For some reason advanced statistics are doing the same thing for me. I can't enjoy Tyler Flowers, why...his BABIP tells me he will suck from now until mid-July. The stats tell me so. Rizzo and Abreu are having good starts. Rizzo has been a round for a few yeas Abreu for a month. THAT IS THE f***ING STORY NOT RUNS CREATED V WOBA or whatever the f*** he is talking about.. Nobody is telling you how to enjoy the game of baseball. We're just saying what he's doing wasn't sustainable. There's a huge difference.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 7, 2014 -> 11:07 AM) This article is one of the primary problems I have with "advanced" stats. Both of these players are being paid to produce runs. You can determine the probable value of this all you want but Abreu has scored 22 and driven in 35 for 57 runs minus the HR as you don't want to count the run twice for a total of 45. Rizzo has 19 scored and 16 driven in for 35 minus the 6 HR for a total of 29. There is always the comment of RBI being useless because it depends on the teammates getting on base for the opportunity. In that case the percentage of runs driven in by opportunity works. Don't flame me because I know many of you like the +RC stat and all but when it comes down to it, I think it is all about producing runs from these guys and I really don't care what his weighted on base percentage is. It's great to debate and discuss but it's not as relevant. Runs scored also has to do with how the the hitters behind you hit. It's pretty clear that things like RBI and Runs scored rely on factors one individual player just can't control.

God I suck at hitting. Got shut out by Travis Wood yesterday. I had the bases loaded with nobody out in the 8th down 4. I got a 3-2 on the quick-count and swung at a terrible pitch with Semien. De Aza fouled out. Then Gordon hit into an inning ending force out. That sucked.

Abreu's game is far from perfect. The power is great, but he's gotta get on base more. If he isn't getting on at a .350+ clip, it's hard to consider him an elite hitter.

QUOTE (Tmar @ May 6, 2014 -> 03:56 PM) He looks to have a fairly small head...

The Lakers should jump all over Mark Jackson.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 6, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) Which is what happens any time a player changes teams, so it's not a big deal anyway. I'll still be using the OS roster versions though for my Online/Offline franchises. They've never had real pictures for first year foreign players before. I don't know why they'd change that now.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) So if I have a perfect PS3, what type of money do i get for it? http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/330257-...titanfall-more/ You can find out there.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 6, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) Just because I'm in love with this picture, this is some of the alternative outfield excellence

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2014 -> 11:09 AM) So it doesnt have "airplay" features? Not in the same way it's done on Apple devices.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) I think he meant he is streaming FROM his phone to Chromcast, not simply streaming netflix using phone as the remote. You can't stream from the phone. Chromecast doesn't work that way. It literally takes the link from the phone, goes to it and streams the video.

I absolutely hate playing with the wind blowing in. It kills my power and forces me to change my swing. It's not a bad thing to swing for liners and ground balls, but it really screws with me psychologically. The results are usually pretty bad...

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 6, 2014 -> 12:54 AM) With how clutch that Semdog Millionaire has been, it's hard to believe he leads the team and is near the top of MLB in strikeouts. The dude either strikes out, or gets a big hit, apparently.

QUOTE (TRU @ May 6, 2014 -> 10:36 AM) Jose Abreu isn't even in the game straight from retail. He wont be added until an official roster update, which I believe is happening on the 8th. So again, no Jose Abreu right out of the box. Konerko is the Sox 1B for the time being. Abreu's in the PS3 version though right? It's been a whole month, he should have been added a while ago. Same with Tanaka.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) ChiTribSports ‏@ChiTribSports 5m Durant named NBA's MVP; Noah 4th in voting http://trib.in/1iTMmdx Seems about right.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 5, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) My chromecast is also right next to the router. Your router must not like your Chromecast or you got a faulty Chromecast. Like someone mentioned before, it has nothing to do with the WiFi on your Galaxy S4, your S4 is nothing but a remote and an initiator of the stream, whatever WiFi issues it may have doesn't affect how the video quality is on your Chromecast.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 6, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) OS rosters always come with two things. A generated player face and not a picture. Unrealistic player faces. Does Jose Abreu have a picture in the game? Does he look like Jose Abreu? My interest in the game this year entirely revolves around him. lol Jesus Christ Steve, do you have to stare at Jose Abreu's face while you're playing? He won't have a picture in this game, even in the official rosters. It's just how it is with players who haven't appeared in the game before. I'll go pick up the game later tonight.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 5, 2014 -> 11:29 PM) Another ugly save. Not only does Lindstrom not have his usual plus stuff (95-96 MPH fastball), he also has pretty terrible control. It's a bad combination. I'm surprised he's not been hit harder.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2014 -> 10:33 PM) I didn't know anyone was criticizing Puig for trying to make a catch I don't want to see guys on my fantasy team going balls out on defense and getting hurt. lol

OVA! Pretty s***ty game, but a win's a win.