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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 09:22 AM) You'll note though...Ankiel...got traded! The deal didn't bring back a top of the league prospect, but it did bring back some guys who might be MLB caliber filler players at some point, and even that can be valuable. If I were sitting in Moore's chair, I'd be trying to draft as well as I can, develop guys in the minors as much as I can...but then I'd also be taking some money and signing some guys in FA to fill things I considered obvious holes or places where I'd rather not bring up my young talent just yet (develop them more in the minors and push back their Arb years). I'd go after guys that aren't hugely expensive, even if I have to overpay a little to get them to KC, and I'd go after guys that for whatever reason might be able to play well enough to turn themselves into trade-bait. That way, maybe I sign one guy and he winds up being a complete waste, but maybe I sign an Ankiel/Podsednik, get a couple wins out of them, and then deal them for more young roster filler pieces to a desperate team at the deadline. If I draft well and can fill in top line players through the draft, I can round out my roster with other cheap guys by that technique. I know that he got traded, got some decent prospects back too. The problem with Moore is that he takes whatever little money he has and wastes it on bad baseball players. Instead of signing Kelly Johnson to a similar deal the Diamondbacks offered him, he signs Rick Ankiel. His evaluation of major league talent sucks. And frankly, his management of minor league talent also sucked up until this year. He's kept Kila the Hawaiian dude trapped down in the minors for the past three years. Who did he play in favor of him? Oh...you know, two DFA candidates in Jose Guillen and Mike Jacobs. And I won't even start to talk about Alex Gordon. He's had ML ready players on this team and in the system, instead of letting them play, he's blocking them with replacement level players.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 01:12 PM) I'll tell you what, I have no idea why teams like the Royals don't stock up on veteran relievers in the offseason, even if they have to overpay a little. As long as the deals are for one year, these guys are easy to move at the deadline and if they're performing well, can give you quite a haul. The Pirates' signing of Octavio Dotel is a perfect example. They tried and they failed. Kyle Farnsworth, Juan Cruz, etc...

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 01:28 PM) Lol, now a 4th person has chimed in on Kotsay's defense... "Hey, THE SHOW, are you still bummed Kotsay was in yesterday's game?" ugh.. My point exactly...

Ozzie was just jealous that Buck Showalter had lineup cards with player's pictures on them. He's jealous of Buck's computer skillz.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 01:25 PM) Sample size on Viciedo and Lillibridge still small. These two guys were killed mercilessly here but months ago, now they're heroes. Kotsay has had a lot of at-bats and hasnt produced. Easy target. I don't love having him as our left handed bat, but I dont know that putting our bench righties against RHP nonstop is the answer either. Who killed Viciedo...? People killing Lillibridge last year was more than warranted, he's a completely different type of player now.

As of this moment, people are just pissed that Kotsay is taking away playing time from Viciedo, as Shack said above.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 10:46 AM) Or maybe the short sightedness is for the people that only look at the first 4 months of this season not his career. He has been a decent player his whole career. He is having a bad year so far, but what is to say he won't play closer to his career averages for the rest of the season? I'm not a big Kotsay fan in the full time DH role because he is a decent unspectacular player but the unrelentless bashing is getting old. Calling people baseball stupid because their opinion is different is going to the extreme. Are you really trying to defend people who think one good game makes them right when Kotsay has been absolutely horrible for the past 4 months? What he has done in the past is the past, he's no longer the 3-4 WAR player he was with Oakland and San Diego. At this point in his career, he's a .700 OPS hitter, a good bench player and nothing more.

QUOTE (chiguy79 @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 10:12 AM) What matters is what KW thinks: Meanwhile, Guillen received a note from general manager Ken Williams praising him on sticking with Kotsay, who was 5-for-42 before his three-hit game raised his overall average to .223. Kotsay's homer was his first since June 8 against the Tigers. You too Kenny? God damn it. Where is Rick Hahn when you need him?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 06:35 AM) You don't look dumb. One good game doesn't alleviate Kotsay's overall badness. Some people only believe in a few days, not four months. These are the people who are legitimately baseball stupid.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 07:56 AM) You can make some legit complaints about keeping guys in the minors for too long...but really, there's a lot to like with how they've operated this season. Their minors suddenly look nearly loaded with talented guys They signed guys who blocked their young players...then dealt those guys for additional youth They held onto the guys under their control and waited for a great offer (Which they didn't get). Legitimately they need to start looking to move Greinke this offseason or next season. They didn't need to waste any of the money they used on those terrible veteran players, such as Ankiel and Jason Kendall. Did I mention anything about Yuniesky Betancourt?

Zack should have flat out said something like - "fire Dayton Moore already, he doesn't know how to build a team".

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 09:30 PM) The same Joe Nathan that blew 6 saves in 2008 and 5 saves in 2009. . And how many of those were 3 run lead blown saves...?

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 09:55 PM) We got great starting pitching! We got a great bullpen! We got great defense!!! We got hitting currently above average! We have the best manager in all of baseball! We even have one of the best mascots in the game (Southpaw could kick the Phillie Fanatics ass!!!) Start making the rings now....nobody stopping this World Series run!!!! I'll drink to that!!!! :cheers :cheers Southpaw FTW. BTW, are you drunk?

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 07:39 PM) No, its utterly and completely useless. A lame attempt to find a credible stat that ties individual production to team winning, which would circumvent the argument "the stat that matters is wins!". Did Mark Kotsay WAR magically go up by one in the last 24 hours? Because I'm fairly certain he just won us one baseball game more than the phantom Replacement Player. I'm not using this to defend Kotsay, who has not been good this season, this is purely an attack on stupid statistics that dont make any sense. According to WPA, Kotsay was responsible for winning half a game today. Saying things like WAR should incorporate walk-off hits as "winning a whole game" is flat out ridiculous. Unless that guy pitched to get all 27 outs, played every position, got every single hit in every batting slot, he doesn't deserve a whole WAR just because he came up in the right spot at the right time. Your perception of value and contribution to wins are skewed. And if you would like, please explain to us why WAR is bulls***. Do you know how it is calculated? Do you know the components of it for position players, for pitchers? If you don't know how it goes, don't knock it.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 07:10 PM) No it's not. Stacey King would go for 20 points and 10 rebounds every 30 games or so. He was still bad. Just like Kotsay is still bad. No, I'm saying it's a terrible idea to talk to Kotsay supporters about him when he just did that. Those people only live for what just happened, they don't care that he's hitting .220.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 06:59 PM) http://www.facebook.com/scott.reifert?v=wa...d=1467906652513 Read if you have 5 minutes to spare, and please, someone help me from tearing my hair out. I can't believe I would find 3 people who think Kotsay is good, and they are all swarming at once! I've dealt with these kind of people before. Just ignore them. There's no use getting all mad over people who do not possess brains. And it is also a terrible idea to talk about Mark Kotsay after he just went 3-5 with 5 runs batted in.

Any word on who they plan to donate this money to?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 09:54 AM) So let me get this straight. The single-most appealing thing about Madden 10, the online franchise mode, had bugs aplenty (including incorrect aging, no contracts, none of the deep, intuitive features we all love from regular franchise), yet they do nothing about it? From what I have read, the only changes to Madden 11 are updated rosters, new pre-snap controls (something that bugs me because they were fine), and a new way of "playcalling" which is basically permanent "Ask Madden" which takes half the fun out of playing, imo. Seriously, I like selecting plays, not being told by a computer what to do and mindlessly trying to pull it off. Then they ignore the online franchise, stating it will go "largely unchanged". This monopoly gets really old. Yet, of course, like the drone I am I'll walk like a Zombie, drooling, into GameStop come Tuesday and pick up my copy. Ugh. I'm dumb. I got $20 for pre-ordering it, I'll take it.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 11:46 AM) Freddy won't be back next year. He's going to get a (well-deserved) handsome contract somewhere else. Only a team like the Royals or Astros would offer Freddy a lot of money for his wins. Everybody else will give him what he truly deserves...5th starter's money.

Jose Guillen got DFA'd, bout time.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 04:06 PM) I believe you can put him on irrevocable waivers the 2nd time though. Well I don't think Rizzo would want to do that. At the least, he gets two picks for Dunn.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) Can a player be placed through waivers twice? Like can the Nats pull Dunn off waivers, and then run him through again? No they cannot.

Rizzo would immediately pull him back.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 03:32 PM) Wow, congratulations on the subtitle of the thread. I mean honestly, that's awesome. And just like kyyle, I give Kotsay a reprieve for the day and possibly tomorrow. Good job, Freddy, and basically everyone except for Jenks. Jenks has cost Garcia two wins already.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) I would think you'd adore her for more than one day only... I'm just saying I'd adore both of them for this one day.