Chicago White Sox

Pull Bauer now!

We got to stop being cocky, this Cubs offense is capable of exploding in a matter of minutes.

Is it me, or did that catch look way cooler simply because he misread it?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Oct 30, 2016 -> 07:39 PM) Why not challenge WTH! Yeah, looked like he may have been safe. How many challenges do they get in the playoffs? Maybe Francona didn't feel it was worth risking one with two outs and Bauer in the hole.

And now there's even more pressure on the Cubs. If the Indians get someone on base with any seblance of speed, they need seriously f*** with Lester on the bases. Francona is the one few managers I've seen execute this strategy.

f*** yeah!!!!!!!!!!

The Cubs should win this game due to the pitching matchup. However, if the young Cubs hitters keep pressing/chasing, the Tribe will at least have a chance tonight. They need to play like they're up 3-1 and not worry if they fall behind early. All the pressure should be on the Cubs.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Oct 30, 2016 -> 07:10 PM) That's far too much. I would rather have Sale than Bryant, but Bryant has 5 more years of control and will be cheaper than Sale. You would have to do like Sale + Adams or something. The Cubs aren't trading Bryant for anyone and Spencer Adams is a meaningless sweetener in such a hypothetical trade.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 30, 2016 -> 07:04 PM) Then they don't get Sale. Simple. Why on Earth would the White Sox help the Cubs? Well Sale for Bryant wouldn't help the Cubs, but yeah, we're aren't going to trade with them anyways.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Oct 30, 2016 -> 06:31 PM) Any Sale to the Cubs deal starts with Bryant and Contreras, though Schwarber would be a nice throw in. They're the Cubs, they would have to worse than Shelby Miller overpay to get Sale. Bryant >>>>>> Sale, so not happening.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 11:56 PM) I am a lifelong GOPer but I said before I may need to be reclassified. I voted for Obama last time and won't vote Republican this time either. I'm not sure I voted for McCain before that because I despised Palin. In Kansas I despise Brownback and didn't vote for him. So I guess I am not Republican. Seems like you despise all female politicians. What's that about?

And let me be clear, I'm not saying the Cubs can't come back, but anyone guaranteeing they will the World Series despite being down 3-1 is either a f***ing troll or a f***ing idiot.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 11:02 PM) Whatever. Win a home game. That's all the best team in baseball by far has to do. Get it back to Cleveland and it will be like when the Aliens stole noot and sigorney weaver went HAM on that ass. Just watch, folks. No, I don't want it to happen. But the Cubs will win a a WS. and it's gonna happen this year. It's amazing how many horrible predictions come out of your mouth and yet you always come back louder and more obnoxious.

I love that Kyle Schwarber, AKA Babe Scwarber, AKA the Lochness Monster, is both the Cubs' savior and scapegoat. I've already heard claims that the Cubs lost these past two games because Babe wasn't healthy enough to play the OF, while they're all but certain to win games 6 & 7 when they can finally unleash the Lochness Monster. s*** is absolutely hilarious.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 10:38 PM) It pains me to say this but it must be said now. The Cubs are going to take the next three and win it all. This series wreaks of the nba finals. Cubs ain't losin' three at wrigley. Just ain't happening. It's goin' back to Cleveland where they will unleash the loch ness monster that is Schwarber and ride their superior pitching matchups to the title. don't want it to happen. but its gonna. Most predictable post ever, although I'll give some creativity points for claiming "it pains me".

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 10:28 PM) I'm sure Tito would have gotten a playoff appearance out of this team at least once or twice in the past 5 years. 100% agree.

If people want to know why many of us hate the Cubs with a passion, just look at these idiot fans celebrating outside Wrigley because they're on TV. Who cares about the beat-down that just took place or the fact you're down 3-1, a split second on TV is all that matters.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 10:25 PM) God it kills me that we could have had Francona as manager instead of Robin. Lol...I literally said the same thing to a buddy 30 minutes ago. But hey, the White Sox are gonna White Sox.

Would love a Baez K to end this.

QUOTE (beautox @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 08:54 PM) This offseason will be interesting because its a sellers market and the premium that was applied during the deadline should be even more pronounced when a 36 year old Rich Hill is the best arm followed by Nova and Hellickson. Chris's surplus value per fangraphs trade deadline article is somewhere around 150mil and thats not taking into account a premium for the seller's market. If you go by this article you get a good understanding of what "fair value" is for top 100 prospects. a package of Benintendi, Devers, Groome & Swihart would likely be "fair". Benintendi - 73.5m Devers - 62m Groome - 29.8m Swihart - ?? Sox get what many considered the #1 arm in last years draft that has #1 ceiling. 2 Major league ready pieces up the middle in Benintendi and Swihart all though Benintendi is likely better suited in left field and swihart may just be a LF/1B/DH a rebuilding team can afford to put them in center field and catcher and a high upside bat in Devers, that may or may not stick at 3B. This is a solid way to evaluate fair value, but those projected surplus values are far more risky than Sale's and would need to be discounted accordingly. Additionally, there should be a premium for Sale given the limited supply of starters available (as you indicated) and the significant value of dominant pitching in October (which is frequently ignored from these exercises). I still think fair value for Sale is a package like Benintendi, Devers, Kopech, Rodriguez, & Groome.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 07:17 PM) Post gone. Haha Nice recovery!

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 07:09 PM) 5.63 era for lackey Don't jinx this s*** bro, it doesn't take much to piss off the baseball gods.

I like Bill Murray, but WTF was that Daffy Duck thing last night.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 10:38 AM) They'd probably have the choice of just one of Kopech or Groome...your package seems to be a bit too much for the Red Sox to give up. Perhaps they try to throw in Shaw/Holt instead of a prospect. I'm just pointing out what I think is fair value for arguably a top 3 pitcher in all of baseball under contract for three more years at a ridiculously below market rate. The Red Sox may very well say it's too much, but given what elite pitching has been going for recently, it feels about right to me. Benintendi & Devers are the two headliners and I'm not making a deal without both of them (or one of them with Moncada). While I like Kopech, he's somewhat overrated due to his pure stuff. Rodriguez has accomplished nothing at the major league level, but obviously has talent. And Groome is a high draft pick who is years away from contributing. All three are interesting arms, but are also far from sure things and none are elite prospects. This package is definitely better than the Hamels one, but it also should be given Sale is a far better pitcher and provides much more surplus value in his contract. If the Red Sox got Sale for this package, I think they instantly become the favorites for the AL pennant.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) Yep. There have got to be teams kicking themselves right now. I'm hoping both the Sox and potential buyers are far more realistic on the value of Sale & Quintana this offseason. The value of elite starting pitching should be apparent after these playoffs, especially with a well-rounded and dangerous Cubs team likely to be in the postseason mix. Teams can't be expecting us to take half-ass packages, not in this market. At the same time, the Sox can't overplay their hand and expect a franchise crippling return. Yes, the package should definitely sting a bit, but it also must make the acquiring team a more dangerous contender in the short-term. We should not be asking for established stars (i.e. Mookie Bette) or require multiple major league pieces if it creates too many holes. I still think a trade with Boston makes the most sense. A Sale for Benintendi, Devers, Kopech, Rodriguez, & Groome deal is fair for both sides IMO. That's a lot of talent coming back our way and if such a deal is on the table, the Sox should not blink.