Chicago White Sox

I would seriously consider sending Bababe down to Kannapolis for a week or two. His confidence has to be pretty much shot at this point. My guess is it will happen when Call gets sent back to Winston Salem.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 07:19 PM) Dunning's final line - 5IP, 8H, 4ER, 6K, 3BB. Giolito and Stephens are both off to solid starts so far tonight. Doesn't really seem like a terrible start unless those hits were hit hard. At least he still managed to K a bunch of guys.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 07:01 PM) And don't get hurt hitting or running. Take three strikes and sit down. I agree with that!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 05:55 PM) Dunning getting roughed up by a team he's faced three times now Are you implying something by the "faced three times" comment?

Please pitch well tonight Q!

QUOTE (Soha @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 06:32 PM) Looks like he had a big day. 3 for 4 with a HR and triple and 4 rbi's. Average was like .188 when i looked this morning I think, now it's .300 Either way, the Yankees have been sliding out of the race. I'd be very surprised if they were buyers. I mean, it's 22 plate appearances. I seriously doubt his production in those at-bats has any impact on whether they decide to keep or trade him. Also, the Yankees are still in the lead for the wild card. Adding Quintana fits both short-term and long-term goals. Furthermore, the Yankees are already loaded with outfielders on the major league roster (when healthy) and should have Fowler back sometime next season. I personally think Frazier is expendable for them.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) Alternate take - it's now virtually certain that Clint Frazier wouldn't be part of a package for Q. Why?

I'm expecting a nice start from Giolito tonight.

QUOTE (Username @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) Royals are supposedly kicking the tires on Gray. Would be awesome if they took him or another top P off the market quickly. Definitely might spur the rest of the market. Would 100% love that. Gets the other TOR starter off the market to a surprise buyer while further weakening a divisional foe's long-term outlook.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) here is a nice list talking chop put together link QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) Appears to be a strong class at the top but it's highlighted by high school players. High School: Brice Turang SS CA, Jarred Kelenic OF WI, Kumar Rocker RHP GA, Joe Gray OF MS, Tristan Casas 1B FL College: Brady Singer RHP Florida, Seth Beer 1B/LF Clemson, Luken Baker 1B TCU, Konnor Pilkington LHP Miss State http://m.mlb.com/news/article/236744566/ji...-10-projection/ Thanks for posting. While I wish there was Kris Bryant type college bat at the top, it sounds like Turang, Kelenic, & Gray are all elite high school talents. I'd be happy with any of those three and I think we'll have a great chance at one of them.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Getting the Brewers and Cubs involved would help his market quite a bit, as its hard to see an AL team biting right now. The Yankees are regressing hard and the Astros already have one of the best rotations in baseball. Hopefully the Barves rumors are true as well. I'd prefer him in the NL, obviously. Do they? They have two awesome starters and then a bunch of question marks. That's not going to work very well come playoff time. IMO, they'll almost certainly add another quality starter.

I don't see how we could catch the Phillies, but #2 remains a possibility. Anyone know the top three prospects in next year's draft? I know it's early, but it would be nice knowing if there is some elite positional talent, especially from the college ranks.

QUOTE (Jimmy3Putt @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 08:24 AM) I think the purpose for Robert to stay in the DR was to save HIM in taxes not the Sox. Next year his bonus isn't taxable income just his yearly salary, so he can come over. QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) Correct. But I would imagine we won't see a long post ripping Robert for trying to maximize his earnings after being dirt poor. I'd also like to add that this may have helped the Sox land Robert in the first place. The Sox gain NOTHING by having him start over there otherwise, this is 100% about providing Luis with a greater after-tax benefit. Maybe the Cardinals weren't willing to do this or perhaps it effectively made our offer greater than theirs. Regardless, we need to stop with the Sox are cheap narrative every time money is involved. I'll admit I think Reinsdorf botched the 2016 season by not spending more, but otherwise he's been a fairly decent owner in terms of payroll.

If the Brewers are seriously considering adding a TOR starter, then Quintana easily makes the most sense for them. They will definitely value his additional year of control over Gray. And honestly, what else is out there that will be controllable? Seems like any package has to be built around Brinson. I don't see another guy who could be a headliner in their system. After that, I'm not sure what to ask for. Hader would obviously be an interesting guy, but I don't see them trading their most advanced pitching prospect. TBH, their system seems a bit overrated. Ortiz doesn't do much for me and most of their other interesting positional guys are sporting ridiculously high K rates (Diaz, Clark, Ray). I still think the Astros & Yankees are the best fits for Quintana.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 12:26 AM) And now today, without the gym at all, it says 4235 calories burned. Now I did work today, and take the dogs on a walk, so I did over 9 miles of walking (19,000+ steps), but considering I average 13K+ steps during a work day, I feel like if I am really burning 4000 calories or so on a work day, then I should be shedding pounds like crazy. Maybe I eat a lot worse than I think I do. What kind of work are you doing where you do over 9 miles of walking? That would require like 3 to 5 hours of movement depending on your pace. Also, I assume these numbers include your resting metabolic rate? If so, I could see 3,000 to 3,500 calories burned a day max depending on the intensity of your workouts.

What really sucks is Lopez is the only guy in Charlotte really pushing for a spot in the rotation. Coming into the season, I was hoping for two or three guys to be ready by now. I'm all for a rebuild, but it's painful watching the Holland, Shields, Gonzalez, Pelfrey quartet.

Hopefully Frazier has his OPS over .800 after this series. Should help with the marketing process.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 07:21 PM) And Holland! though I hold little hope for it. I almost put him in there, but I just don't him being much but a salary dump.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) To vary degrees the entire Charlotte rotation has been disappointing. I'm still holding out hope for Fulmer but it's looking bleak right now. I'm fine with Lopez's season so far. He's struggled a bit at BB&T, but has been very good on the road. I think he's a guy who will flourish under Cooper. The other guys I agree with, although Giolito has performed at about expectations for me.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:23 AM) I was just going to ask this question, because for Thursday, it says I burned 4500 calories, and that doesn't even include the hour+ I was in the pool. So probably more like 5000 calories. That includes being at the gym, and also my volleyball tournament, but still, seems really high. I guess I'll have to see how what it's like on a typical work day. I would guess somewhere around 2500. What did you do at the gym exactly? Unless you're prepping for a marathon, I'm going assume your Fitbit is broken as f***.

Build up that trade value Frazier, Melky, Robertson, & Kahnle!

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 07:05 PM) Fulmer getting shelled again, also. At this point I've completely lost faith in him as a starter.

I think it's pretty ridiculous that Hansen & Dunning didn't make the list. Hell, I think it's absurd that Collins didn't make the list, but I can at least somewhat get the logic there. Hansen & Dunning have both been amongst the best pitchers in their draft class and also have high enough ceilings (especially Hansen) to warrant spots in the 75 to 100 range.

Robertson, Kahnle, & cash for Soto & Kieboom.

How about when the Astros recently traded Josh Fields for Yordan Alvarez? There are plenty of examples in baseball history of teams turning modest assets into gold by targeting raw, low level prospects with big ceilings. The idea of holding onto a free agent to be because somehow you don't think the return will be worth it is beyond ridiculous. In fact, it comes across as trolling as it defies all logic and common sense. And Greg isn't Rick Morrissey, he's Skip Bayless. Say something stupid, ignore all (well argued) counterpoints, rinse & repeat. Whether he's a true troll or not is up for debate (I have my suspicions), but at a bare minimum he is purposely being obtuse & outlandish to get attention. I mean how many times can we sit here and allow him to say "alleged rebuild" when there is zero doubt we are rebuilding. Honestly, I love this website and the community of posters, but Greg is starting to make posting here a challenge. And sure, I could block him, but his presence will live on through the numerous responses he gets a day. I'm just really tired of having to sift through his bulls*** to get to the quality discussion & debate. It's really unfortunate that one indivual poster can have this much of an impact on the board and nothing can be done about it.