Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 07:02 PM) I think his point was who even goes to that level to think of that based upon rate. Yes, it is a one letter switch, but I just don't think of that and just mentioning it / joking about that being a name (not saying you did) is just despicable in my book. Fair enough.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 06:55 PM) We can't control social media or what Cubs fans say. We all can control what we say on this site. There are plenty of jokes to be had without stooping to rape jokes Where did I make a rape joke? All I posted is no one should be surprised that Cubs fans will be making such jokes, since Y2Jimmy seemed so shocked by the mere notion of it.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 06:45 PM) Why do people keep saying guaranteed rate? I would not have even thought of that if not posted here. It's completely unnecessary, unfunny, kind of stupid. Well be prepared to hear it a lot more, because there will be Cubs fans using that zinger left and right going forward.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 06:37 PM) Sox hit #1 in America on twitter trends today. That's like the most relevant we've ever been. That's like saying Jared the Subway guy was the most relevant he's ever been after being arrested for child pornography.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 03:35 PM) LOL yeah it is. Far from the worst stadium name out there though. Pretty well confirmed now. Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 43s43 seconds ago #WhiteSox have naming rights deal in place. Going from US Cellular Field to Guaranteed Rate Field starting next season. What stadium name is worse?

I'm at a loss for words. Absolutely embarrassing name.

Is Fisher injured again?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2016 -> 05:38 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...get-it-together This is reassuring. KW: We'll get it together. So basically, the injuries to Petricka and Putnam were enough to blow up the entire season...that's about as lame as Hawk saying the lack of offdays early burned out Albers and Robertson. Seriously, f*** this organization. Completely ignore the failures of the offense, the fact that we have don't have a 5th starter, or the compete lack of depth everywhere. Yup, it was only bullpen injuries that let us down this year. Glas to hear they'll be "come out swinging", we're clearly just a piece or two away from being perennial contenders.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 07:49 AM) Could it be time to re-evaluate Leury Garcia? He has had a very good year at AAA, especially vs. RHP. Last year at Charlotte, he was actually better against LHP, while hitting around .300, overall. With his speed and defense, I'd like to see what he could do at second. He seems to have finally figured it out, and is still only 25. At the very least, maybe he could be a decent utility guy, at SS, 2B and CF. Leury is sporting an unsustainable .400 BABIP, so I'd wouldn't take his numbers at face value. Having said that, his K & BB rates are pretty decent and with his speed and defensive versatility, he could be a valuable utility guy. I still don't think he'd be an effective starter and would much rather see Saladino get an opportunity at 2B before him. But there's no reason for Sanchez to be our major league bench over Luery at this point. I think he'll receive a call-up in September.

Outside of the recent draft class, this has been an absolutely horrible year for our farm system. The vast majority of our top prospects have underperformed and very few prospects have broken out. The entire organization is a disaster at the moment.

Suicide Squad was definitely a bad movie. I don't think it was horrible by any means, but it has a lot of issues and is both stupid & boring at times. Really sucks because the potential for greatness was there. The animated Suicide Squad film, Assault on Arkham, was awesome and should have been the blueprint. Instead, we got this mess of a film.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 01:49 PM) You are delusional if you think it suddenly makes this team any better. All he was saying was great fire Robin. The reality is he is the least of the White Sox problems. There are several players you should hope get "fired" before him. Firing Robin is very likely to make our team better, because he is a horrible manager and it would be hard to hire anyone worse. Also, he may be the "least" of our problems, but he's still a problem and one that can easily be addressed. Maybe his replacement is only worth a win or two over a 162 game season, but last time I checked every win counts when trying to make the playoffs. The idea that we shouldnt replace our manager (whose contract ends at the end of the season no less) because the impact is small relative to other potential changes (players, front office, etc) is beyond ridiculous. These changes aren't mutually exclusive and in a perfect world they'd all be made. Having said, Robin needs to replaced at season's end regardless of what happens with KW & Hahn or the roster. Again, there is simply no logical argument for keeping him.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) I think it's more that many of us aren't so delusional that we think a managerial change is the difference between this team making and missing the postseason. What a horrible post. When did anyone ever say Robin was the difference between making & missing the playoffs? Seriously, I guarantee you couldn't provide a single post from this forum stating that, let alone multiple of them. But yup, those of us in favor of firing Robin are the delusional ones. And is that really your argument for keeping Robin? That because Robin isn't worth 9+ games, which is what it would take for us to make the playoffs this season, we should keep him? If so, all I can say is that's some f***ed up logic. If replacing Robin makes us even a single game better, then it's a move worth making. I'm so sick of the same old "managers don't matter" defense for keeping a garbage one. If managers really didn't matter, which is incorrect, then you shouldn't give two s***s if we replace him. At this point in time, there is no defense for keeping him. Maybe a change doesn't add much value, but it simply can't hurt.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 01:04 PM) He will be gone, but unless you want to give JR, RH, and KW some credit, no one was going to win with the hand Robin was dealt. Robin isn't the only reason for this mess, but there's no doubt he's a contributor. I'd like to see sweeping changes across the organization, but since that's not going to happen, I'll take what I can get and that's Robin being let go.

I can't believe Robin still has supporters. He's accomplished NOTHING in his tenure here and quite frankly there's no logical defense for keeping him. Thank god the front office finally realizes this and the pointless argument can end.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) A top 20 reliever is worth about 1.5 to 2.0 WAR A top 20 starter is worth about 5 WAR WAR ignores context and doesn't appropriately value relievers who can shut down opponents in high leverage situations. I'd rather have a top 20 starter no doubt, but there's a reason teams are paying up the ass for elite relievers.

QUOTE (JLarucci23 @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) Any reason why Jameson promoted yet? The only thing I can think of is we already have a full OF in Kannapolis (Call, Adolfo, Rodriguez) and Jameson needs to play everyday in the field to work on his defense.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Aug 16, 2016 -> 08:17 PM) I had a great conversation w/Jerry Reinsdorf today. He said his front office is 100% in lockstep on what to do this offseason. https://twitter.com/thekapman/status/765710836748918784 More Reinsdorf: "Our offseason plans will be clear by our actions. Rick and Kenny are on the same page." https://twitter.com/thekapman/status/765711160746344448 To me, that's a pretty clear indication they plan on rebuilding to some extent. No way they could feel that confident in their ability to execute a "go for it" strategy at this point in time. Just last offseason, the front office publicly said they weren't sure which direction they were going to go until they were able to land Frazier. With this coming offseason's poor free agent class, the ability to fill holes will be even difficult. I really think Reinsdorf is going to let the rebuild finally happen

Glad to see he's being sent down. He definitely needs more development time in the minors.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 16, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) The Chicago White Sox aren't going anywhere anytime soon. They are 12th in MLB in TV revenue, and only $3M separates them from being in the top ten in all of baseball in that all-important revenue stream. You couple that with the massive revenue-friendly sweetheart lease deal they enjoy, and they won't get a more profitable deal in any another city. This also dispels the myth that the team somehow operates in a "limited resources" environment. The facts as just referenced support quite the contrary. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/estimated-t...l-30-mlb-teams/ Hmmm, large market teams have the most revenue from TV contracts. Who would have ever thought that?? But moving to Salt Lake City sounds pretty awesome with that huge regional TV deal they could provide!

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 16, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) I guess that Mexico City and Motreal are frequently speculated as expansion locations, so they could be in play, but I don't see it. Montreal is easily the best city suited for a MLB team, way above any of the locations you listed. And none of them make a lick of sense relative to Chicago. Please list the largest TV deals and tell me how many aren't in top 10 markets.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 15, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) Someone told me Renteria has too much respect for Robin to replace him midseason and if he ever did replace him, it would be in the offseason. That does make a lot of sense, thanks for sharing raBBit.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Aug 15, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) He's certainly intriguing. KATOH projects him as the White Sox's top prospect and the 111th prospect in the game, I assume mainly based on his 2016 destruction in Birmingham. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/an-improved...h-top-100-list/ Thanks for posting. I think he's certainly underrated and I'd probably rank him in the 10 - 15 range in our system. The only thing holding him back IMO is a lack of position. If he could play a solid LF, I think he could be a very valuable player.

The Sox are not moving and the idea is absolutely ridiculous. Not only are there franchises with far worse situations (A's & Rays immediately come to mind), but MLB wants to expand in the not too distant future. If someone can name three to four cities out there that are better than a split Chicago, I'd love to hear them. Despite our low ratings today, the potential of the Chicago market is incredible and a new owner would have to be crazy to pass it up to go somewhere like Portland or Vegas.

Heyman was on WSCR this morning and speculated that Renteria would be the favorite to replace Robin. While that makes some sense, I can't comprehend why they wouldn't give him a two month audition if they were serious about him. Regardless, there is zero chance Robin is back next year. Just hope he isn't the sacrificial lamb and there's some shakeup in the front office as well.