Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) We don't know what they were offered guys. Get off the ledge. Teams are making deals and left and right and we're supposed to think the only halfway decent offer we got for any of our guys was a 4th OF for Duke? I think it's pretty easy to say they f***ed up on dealing their secondary pieces.

This is f***ing ridiculous. Absolutely unacceptable to not move any of Robertson, Shields, Gonzalez, Melky, & Frazier.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) 1 hour. Robertson still here. It's like f***ing musical chairs and we're going to be the only one without chair when the music stops. This front office better not f*** this up. Even if Sale & Quintana aren't moved, there are other pieces to deal.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 07:56 AM) Think I'd rather have Profar over Gallo.. Not at all impressed with Gallo I know it's been said a hundred times, but Profar only has three years of control and is represented by Boras. He makes little sense for a rebuilding club. Gallo is obviously a risk because of the K's, but he's also got incredible upside (80 grade power) and has crushed every level of minor league pitching. It may not be a popular comparison around here, but he's somewhat similar to a young Adam Dunn offensively with the ability to play as a passable 3B. If I'm also getting Mazara & Brinson, I'm more than happy to roll the dice on Gallo.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 07:42 AM) Bruce has more value: better hitter, younger, cheaper. Still we should be trying to move him and not a word. There isn't much of a difference in quality of hitting, just different styles. And defensively, Melky has actually been the better player by advanced metrics. Yes, Bruce is a couple years younger, but I'm not sure why that matters when both are only under control for one more season and Jay has been the one unable to stay healthy in recent years. The difference is salary is $2M, which is pretty meaningless. Unless you are desperate for power, I would personally take Melky over Bruce, especially if I were an AL team.

A deal built around Mazara, Gallo, Brinson, Ortiz, & Tate could work. Let them keep Profar. Maybe include Melky to help offset the loss of Mazara and to get a couple more pieces back. That's not a bad deal at all. Not as good as a Moncada/Benintendi lead package, but I'm not sure how many other clubs could actually top it.

Sounds like a Bruce deal may be close to happening. Will be interesting to see what the return is and if we would have been satisfied with moving Melky for it.

450 minutes to go. Feeling a little more optimistic this morning.

Yeah, interesting all the local guys are finally leaking some stuff.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 07:10 PM) Not Coats, I said play Tilson the rest of this season. I think Melky's value is as high as it ever will. See if some team could use a .300 hitter( both a veteran and a lefty) for the stretch run. Tilson should get everyday at-bats in CF regardless of what we do with Melky. Coats is simply the next guy in-line for corner outfield playing time if a spot should open up in the very near future.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) No thanks. Coats is not a major leaguer. Probably not, but he's exactly the type of prospect you give 200 at-bats to in a lost season.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Who said the Sox are going into a rebuild right now? If they are, they need to move either Sale or Q between now and March. Guys like Melky and Robertson aren't going to get you enough talent to do it properly. I think it's a lot more likely that the Sox try to retool a little over the next six months and save the major trades for next July. That would be so incredibly risky IMO. First off, your odds of building winner for the 2017 are incredibly low. Second, you're passing on potential value that guys like Melky & Gonzalez could get you now. Finally, you're gambling that your prized assets don't get hurt between now and next July. Why take that risk? This organization needs to be smart for once and blow things up between now and the offseason.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) You shouldn't be worrying about that going into the beginning of a rebuild. They need to assemble as much young talent as possible and figure out how to piece it together later. Yup, absolutely no reason not to deal Melky and give Coats a two month trial in LF.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:37 PM) 3 outs away from such a scenario. And Street just pulled a Robertson.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) Reasonable looking prospect too. If Gonzalez and Shields are still here Tuesday we riot. I agree, short of a crazy Sale or Quintana trade. And even then, Shields should at least be gone.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:54 PM) Quintana, Sale deals still in play for White Sox https://t.co/VPtpZKe3tI via @mlb https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/759884479313960960 I'll take this as a positive.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) If the Red Sox lose in Anaheim, they will be tied with the Tigers for the second wildcard. Only ahead by a percentage point. 3 outs away from such a scenario.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) Melky is better than Jay Bruce. Can't believe teams that want Bruce aren't calling about Melky who is a better pure hitter and is a switch hitter. Doesn't have his power but makes up for it with contract, average and OBP. Color me shocked Yeah, I'd be shocked if teams with OF needs weren't calling us about Melky. He'd actually be a perfect fit for Texas where he could DH and play a little OF. The question is whether or not Melky is even available. If you're going for it in 2017, you pretty much have to keep him. Like I said previously, if he's not dealt, it's probably an indication of our plans for next year.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:11 PM) I'm cautiously optimistic. I think by tomorrow, the availability and affordability of both Sale and Quintana will be too much for one of these playoff-bound teams to pass up, and they will, in fact, meet the steep demands the Sox have out there right now. I wish I could be this optimistic. That Duke trade has me spooked.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) Almost leads me to believe Melky isn't on the block or Hahn is expecting a #1 prospect in return. He's done nothing but make good solid contact since June of last year. Obviously not good in the field, but I wouldn't call him a burden either. He'd fit great into the top 6 of the lineup for any playoff team. I will say this, if Hahn doesn't move Melky between now and tomorrow, it strongly supports the idea they'll be going for it in 2017.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 04:57 PM) It's going to be glorious. Standing pat. Robin Ventura getting an extension. Various IF and OF pieces traded for. Talk about high expectations with playoffs in mind and missing them. Then 1 year less on Sale and Q's contracts. What really needs to happen is Hahn needs to be fired and a new GM needs to be brought in to rebuild. I'll be honest, I will never abandon the White Sox. They will always be my passion, first and foremost. Having said that, if they try retooling it again, I'll be taking a long f***ing break. I won't be supporting this team with my money or time until changes are made. And I'm fully aware that will have no impact on their decision-making, but I can't sit by year after year as this organization continues to f***-up and continue to support this product. I really hope I'm wrong and they make some big trades by tomorrow or at the very least in the offseason. Going for it once again in 2017 is a big f*** you to our entire fanbase.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) See I dont think they are willing to give up either of the two top prospects for Q. I think if you want one of them(Your only getting 1) you need to give up Sale. Then you simply can't do a deal with them. Right now, I'm thinking the Yankees may be our best match. They desperately need another starter and have a ton of money coming off the books over the next couple years, which means they can simply spend to fill a lot of their positional holes. I think they may be more motivated than anyone to get a cost-controlled ace and may be willing to do something stupid right now. Not sure if the Red Sox are just posturing, but they're acting as if they're not willing to play ball for Sale. Maybe a nice Yankees offer would spur their interest a bit.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) Hahn probably wants to rebuild. We know jerry doesnt and kenny is always going for it. Kinda fighting a up hill battle for hahn If that's all true, then Hahn should consider resigning, because his bosses are setting him up for failure.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:11 PM) Yes, they are going to blow it. I know there's still time but it would be so unlike us to make big trades. Maybe a Robertson one but that's all. Hope I'm wrong. Starting to feel this way as well. Have a bad feeling we'll get a minor league catcher for Robertson and Hahn/KW will argue that said player and Tilson can be everyday regulars. Would be such a Hahn/KW plan two make two or three smaller moves and hope the players acquired can immediately plug holes.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) This. If we don't trade them, we didn't get a good enough haul. Or they simply are unrealistic with their demands. The reality is we'll never know. However, the rest of the moves they make should speak volumes. If they only make a couple smaller deals and then try to convince us that guys like Tilson can fill our holes, I'll assume they were always prepared for more retooling BS and were never serious about dealing Sale or Quintana.