Chicago White Sox

Semien now leads the Southern League in OPS. It's going to be very interesting to see where he ranks in the Southern League top prospects list.

I'm all for losses at this point, but a Phegley walkoff would be awesome.

QUOTE (mike65 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) I don't think there is any doubt that the Cardinals are involved; even the lazy scribes in STL have said as much. What has always had me puzzled is how far Mozeliak would go to accomplish a trade. Cardinal fans are quite fond of the team's #1 farm system ranking. I think he likes the condition of the Cardinal minor leagues but he has a team that can win this year so I think he is torn. Mathey loves Kozma but I don't think Mo has ever felt that Kozma is a SS on a championship club. I like Matheny but sometimes Mo has to save him from himself. Matheny kept using Boggs and losing games until Mo had enough and sent Boggs to Memphis. It is the same with Kozma. The Cards would have to bring a high dollar SS before Matheny stops playing Kozma. Mo brought Rzepsynzki up last week and Matheny hasn't used him once. I said all that to say that Mo will do what he thinks is best for this year's roster and I don't think he would hesitate to trade a couple of prospects for what he believes are upgrades. Whether he has offered enough, only time will tell. He traded a top prospect last year when he traded Zack Cox for Mujica. Mo palys to win. I honestly believe getting Peavy & Ramirez would put you guys over the top. I get how cool it is to have a #1 farm system, but Sox fans know better than anyone that a system can crash and burn quickly and if you're scared to move prospects for proven players you'll regret it more often that not in the end. If I were Mo, I wouldn't pass on improving my chance for another World Series title unless the Sox's asking price was beyond ridiculous.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 1m White Sox haven't shown interest in eating any of Peavy's $ (close to $24M left). That & health were big issues for Atl, Bal, StL & even LA Well that's just f***ing stupid. I don't blame them for not eating any of his 2014 salary, but not eating some money left 2013 is idiotic if doing so will get us a better return.

I think there's no doubt the Cardinals make the best trade partner for us. They have both quality and depth, with several prospects ready for the big leagues right now. I would love to get Adams from them, but any of Wong, Martinez, & Wacha would be able to help us next year. That's what separates them from other trading partners outside of Arizona (who I don't see as actually being interested in Peavy). Also, if we trade them Peavy & Ramirez, that puts some pressure on the Pirates to make a move, which could help us in a potential Rios or De Aza deal.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 03:24 PM) I'm sure they're discussing a combination of those players, no chance we're going to get all 3. I don't think we'd get all three of those guys, but Peavy alone should be worth two of them IMO. Regardless, at least we're past the bulls*** phase where we get hourly twitter updates saying no one wants to pay up for Peavy. Clearly there is serious demand for him and I'm more optimistic about getting an extremely strong return than I was a day ago.

QUOTE (CyAcosta41 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 07:49 AM) Atta boy. That's using the press, Rick! Next time sprinkle in a bit of Bora$ too: "the Cardinals and Red Sox, joined by the Braves, D'backs, and Orioles, and with late inquiries by two mystery teams." Competition. Leverage. Smarts. Lol...you always need a couple of mystery teams!

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 12:53 PM) Our debate was actually on Quintana. Now I do think that Peavy is a top of the rotation starter and would help every contender. Whether they're willing to pay is the question. You didn't answer my question earlier? What's your beef with Quintana? The numbers suggest he's been a top of the rotation starter this year. Why do you think that's not the case?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) Quintana is a mid-bottom rotation guy. Not a key cog to a contender in the stretch run. Probably get more for him in the offseason. What? The kid is currently 27th in pitchers WAR, 38th in ERA if you don't like advanced metrics. He's pitching like a high-end #2 starter right now. Why are you undervaluing him? He's only 24 years old and might even get better.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 03:19 AM) I'll just remind everyone that Carlos Sanchez hit .370 in his time with Birmingham. I wouldn't mind seeing Semien get a month in AAA though. Come on, it was 133 PAs and his BABIP was .449 despite his K rate actually increasing at Birmingham. I still like Sanchez as a prospect, but let's be honest, his success at AA last year was all due to luck. He shouldn't be in AAA right now IMO. On the otherhand, Semien's success at AA this year isn't some fluke, it's the result of improving plate discipline. I'm fine with him getting promoted to AAA at some point this season, but I do not want him on the big league roster. In fact, I'd like to see him spend at least half of 2014 in AAA. We really need to stop rushing our prospects and instead let them finish developing in the minors. The one thing I will give Theo credit for is he wants his prospects to get as many AAA ABs as possible before being called up. It's a smart policy and one I hope Hahn enables.

Greg = troll Please stop feeding

Man, Viciedo has been really good in July. Hopefully he can keep this up and reward the Sox for being patient with him. Also, this is why people who actually watch the games are so down on De Aza.

Semien now 2-2 with HR #13 (f*** Guillen). His July has been nothing short of incredible.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 26, 2013 -> 07:53 PM) Give me Adams + Wong + The relievers and we can talk Yup, you have to get Adams plus another top 100 caliber prospect (Wong or Martinez would do). Otherwise, there is no reason to rush into a deal. We should have the leverage here. Someone will eventually pull the trigger on a Peavy deal IMO.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 26, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) If Hahn was able to acquire Adams + for Peavy and Ramirez, and Profar for Dunn and Rios... I'd be okay with him getting a lifetime contract to be the GM of this team. Profar for Dunn & Rios? Dude, I don't mean to hate, but you have a better chance of f***ing Aaliyah tonight than that trade ever taking place.

I'm sorry but you don't move Peavy & Ramirez for a 1B and two relievers. Hell, I wouldn't take that package for just Peavy. You have to get a second legit prospect, especially if you're giving up Alexei as well.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 26, 2013 -> 03:24 PM) Buster Olney just tweeted, "It'll be interesting to see if contenders try to structure a conditional trade for Jesse Crain based on how much he's able to pitch Aug/Sep" As one poster mentioned contenders trading for Jesse and getting PTBNL on how much he pitches in the upcoming months. I say go for it. They better do this. No way we get s*** for him in August.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 26, 2013 -> 11:35 AM) Of course not, but when people criticize Ventura for his quiet demeanor, and then mention Dave Martinez as their choice to take his place, it would be nice if they realized he is more quiet than Robin. How do you know these are the same people?

Seems like Rios will be a guy that Hahn may have to hold onto until the last minute. Teams may not want to meet the Sox's asking price right now, but 5 days from now when the deadline is nearing its end, a team may make a desperation move to get that right-handed bat they need.

Lol..Gammons on Mully & Hanley this morning still rocking the "White Sox want pitching" bulls***.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 10:28 PM) I'd be shocked if he didn't. He's only thrown to major league hitters once since his return from the DL. Plus a bunch of scouts will be in attendance tomorrow. I think this start will be the big final showcase and a move will happen by the weekend, assuming all goes well tomorrow.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 09:53 PM) He's had an amazing amount of blunders so far this year. Far surpassing anything Pierre or Pods ever did. Cecchini has to be the centerpiece in any potential Peavy deal with Boston. Not only does he fit a big positional need, but he also addresses several major weaknesses in our lineup and organization (lack of left-handed hitters, low AVG/OBP). I wouldn't accept a deal frok them for anything less.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) C'mon. Peavy's getting traded. This is all posturing. Hahn is smart, until he dumps someone under contract for next year, he can still play the "we may go for it in 2014" card to drive up prices. I agree, this is nothing more than posturing. Every GM is leaking something like this right now, whether it's a "we can't take on money" or "we won't mortgage the future".

http://www.southsidesox.com/2013/7/24/4551...-alexei-ramirez I think Jim makes a good point about the Cardinals & Pirates both needing SS's. Pitting them against one another for Alexei is the correct way to build up his value.

I think Ramirez & Crain for Adams, Martinez, & a lottery ticket would be pretty f***ing awesome . I don't think it would ever happen, but I can dream!