Chicago White Sox

I could easily see something like that being our offseason with a few relievers mixed in.

Alright guys, random hypothetical, but which of these scenarios would you prefer? Assume in all three scenarios that Kimbrel is moved and cheaper bullpen reinforcements are acquired. Option A: Marcus Semien: 6/$138M | $23M AAV Chris Taylor: 4/$64M | $16M AAV 5th starter = Dallas Keuchel Option B: Michael Conforto: 4/$76M | $19M AAV Eduardo Escobar: 2/$20M | $10M AAV Chris Bassitt ($9M) for Jake Burger, Jose Rodriguez, & Jason Bilous Option C:: Max Scherzer: 3/$120M | $40M AAV Tony Kemp ($2M AAV) for Micker Adolfo RF = mix of Vaughn & Engel

We need a rumor ASAP to save this thread!

Jack, please don’t take this the wrong way, but you’ve clearly never had a normal corporate job. No company in their right mind thinks leading on their customers in a good business strategy. Like I’d be fired at my job on the spot if I proposed something so dumb.

Why would they do this? I moved to god forsaken Nashville because they failed to land him! What did they accomplish by pretending to sign him and lead us on?

That’s exactly how I remember it.

There goes my offseason plan.

This is just stupid. The Sox will add a $100M contract sooner rather than later. I’m not optimistic they’ll ever add a $300M contract with Jerry as owner, but $100M is a low barrier to cross. Hell, there is a legit chance Giolito agrees to an extension that surpasses that amount this ofxseason.

???…look bro, I’m not going to defend the Sox when it comes to Machado, but they definitely had the high offer of 8/$250M on the table well before the Padres entered the mix. They then added two option years on top of that to counter San Diego’s $300M deal, which was insanely stupid to think he’d accept that, but for a long period of time it was us negotiating against ourselves with the Phillies focused on Harper. The Sox had a very serious offer for a stretch of time, but completely botched it in the end. Regardless, they were prepared to spend a boatload of money on a free agent despite your conspiracy theories that say otherwise.

I honestly can’t recall if they actually made a token offer or not. It almost felt like when we lost out on Machado we were beyond our cap with Harper and never made a legit offer.

Paying him SS money to play him at 2B the next 8 to 10 years seems like a poor allocation of resources. I also don’t love the fit given his splits against RHP.

I agree the trades are definitely in the White Sox’s favor and unlikely at those prices, but I the overall plan could work if increase the cost for Marte, reduce the prospect return for Kimbrel, and kick in more money in the Keuchel deal.

I wish Jon Heyman would write his own tweets instead of letting the agents post whatever PR bullshit they want.

Who is the RF? I’m assuming the others are Machado, Wheeler, & Tanaka? What about A-Rod’s rumored 10/$190M back in the day?

Thanks for setting expectations Jack. I definitely wouldn’t want any joy or optimism in my life and I know I can always count on you to enforce that.

Yeah, my view with starting pitching is you got to plan for a major injury to ensure you’re setup for success come October. Cease is the perfect #4 starter heading into the 2022 season because he’s already damn good, could get even better, and provides insurance if one of your top three guys go down. I don’t want to take any chances on Keuchel or a wore down Kopech making important playoffs, which means adding another TOR starter to pair with Giolito & Lynn.

@ChiliIrishHammock24 - Love the overall plan, but Quintana undermines it for me. For this framework to work, you need to bump up the budget to $185M and get a better starter.

To me, left-handed power bat and TOR starter are my 1A & 1B. The reality is we’re one injury away from having 3/5 of our rotation composed of two guys on innings limits in Dallas & Michael (one of whom was horrible) and a guy who probably came close to getting DFAed last year in Lopez. Even with a great offense and in a week division, I’m not sure that rotation gets you to the postseason.

I’ve always believed that NSC and Portillo’s occasionally get some second hand info, but greatly exaggerate what they actually know (which is very little). I don’t recall having a lot of faith in Al’s and it’s pretty clear he stole most of his shit from Soxtalk or other people on Twitter. Regardless, anyone making a dumb pun-based Twitter account is almost certainly a fraud at this point and can be ignored IMO. Honestly, I put more stock to a wild rumor if someone is willing to put their name to it then hide behind a stupid food based handle.

Ok, after reading that article I see why James will say he might already be the #1 prospect in the system. Honestly, the dude sounds like the real deal and I haven’t been this excited for a prospect since Robert.

None of these new accounts think they have sources, they are doing this for attention and you are giving it to them. Orlando literally parlayed all the Soxtalk attention given to the Al’s Cheesy Beef account into a legit Twitter following. At least with NSC & Portillo’s, they at least got something right at one point in time (still mostly frauds IMO). I’d advise against enabling more of these copycat accounts that clearly are fake.

Oh shit yes.

What would your plan be? Throw out some ideas. You seem to be against veterans, so it doesn’t seem like you have much interest in maximizing the 2022 to 2024 window. And Marte is a pretty damn good player. He had a 7 win season in 2019 and put up 2.9 fWAR in 90 games last year. He seems like a good bet to be a 4.0 to 4.5 win player over the next three years and provides better balance to the lineup being a switch hitter with good contact rates and who can actually hits sliders pretty well

I think he’ll want the highest AAV of all-time and arguably that’s ~$40M.

Look I used BaseballTradeValues to validate the trade and that tool is obviously flawless. But yes, it feels light unless the Dbacks really like Crochet, who is very hard for me to value. I could see rebuilding teams being incredibly high on him as they could send him down to AA and let him spend a year or two building up innings in the minors. If they are, then it’s three former 1st round picks plus a kid with some helium. Maybe just maybe it works.