Chicago White Sox

Holy shit is Omar Vizquel managing for us again? I thought we were done platooning top prospects in the minors.

Fuck this water-carrying clown

Leury batting 3rd again…I think it’s time to send Tony to the home

The first three have also gotten super unlucky. Here are their wOBAs vs xwOBAs: Robert: .242 | .426 Abreu: .294 | .448 Grandal: .179 | .323 Those guys should normalize at some point, especially Grandal’s walk rate. Add Vaughn, Tim, and the return of Pollock & Moncada eventually and we should have plenty of offense to destroy LHP and beat up on weak RHP. Tough righties will still be a challenge and Eloy really need to figure his shit out soon because he’s typically been one our best hitters against RHP. Still feels like a left-handed bat somewhere (2B?) would be very helpful.

And that’s the frustrating part. Early in the offseason Hahn acknowledged that we needed help against LHP and did absolutely nothing to address the need. And coming out of the lockout he said adding pitching depth was a priority and his big move is signing Velesquez. Nothing he can do about Tony, but Hahn completely ignored our two biggest needs and it could eventually cost with enough bad luck and/or health. I like some of the moves Hahn made in isolation, but overall it was a really bad offseason.

How can anyone watch this kid and not see a top 100 prospect? The bat looks legit special.

Don’t win them, but you certainly can lose them when you throw away winnable games.

Here’s the thing. Dallas Keuchel may be approaching the end of the road. Even if Lucas comes back soon, how do we survive with a rotation that only has three good starters? Beyond that, Hahn did absolutely NOTHING to address our weakness against tough RHP this offseason? How do we overcome that in the near term? And finally, Tony La Russa is going to continue making horrible baseball decisions that cost us games. There is no cure for that when the owner has empowered him over the entire front office. I’m not looking to be a pessimist here or overreact to a bad double header, but multiple flaws were highlighted today and none of them have an easy solve. Hopefully the roster is talented enough to overcome these weaknesses, but it’s very clear to me that Jerry & Hahn have opened up this team to unnecessary risk with their coaching & personnel decisions.

@fathom - I need your honest assessment here.

Do you judge the process or the outcome? Anything can happen in an individual baseball game, but hoping four trash hitters carry your offense is the definition of insanity.

I didn’t get home until the bottom of the 9th of game 2, but based on the box score alone I can’t recall a single double header more embarrassing than this one. For those who actually watched the games, how bad was it? Is Dallas basically cooked? Is Tony going to be a detriment all season? Does this team feel like they have the division locked down and are getting cocky? Is the lack of left-handed hitting going to be a routine problem? It’s easy to overreact to a bad couple of games, but it’s also hard not to be concerned when major areas of weakness were completely exploited today. Please share your thoughts for those of us not able to watch.

Because this is baseball and one bad game against Shane Bieber doesn’t mean you will automatically suck the next game?

Definitely didn’t a quality left-handed hitter like Conforto.

And those subs aren’t good. It’s 100% inexcusable to trot out that lineup let alone against a key divisional rival. Stop carrying the water for this organization…you are better than that.

Leury is the guy Tony thinks can hit RHP…god help us all

The lineup in game 2 doesn’t deserve to score more than one run.

Save us Vaughn!

I’d love to say what my heart is thinking right now, but I’d be life-timed from Soxtalk three times over. As such, a simple fuck Tony will do for now.

That is the worst lineup I have seen in White Sox history. I can’t believe any semi competent person could construct such a monstrosity. God help us all…

Charlotte not looking to hot tonight…lol

I will at the Knights game tonight…I pray that Romy & Micker are in the lineup.

Colas & Montgomery are near locks to be top 100 guys by season’s end IMO. Ramos doesn’t need to jump them to start cracking top 100 lists. As for Popeye, I had him & Ramos about even coming into the season and based on very early results (SSS) I’d bump Bryan ahead of him. The reality is Ramos has excellent bat speed, plus power potential, and great plate discipline for such a young hitter. And while it may not be a guarantee he can stick at 3B, it doesn’t appear to be a high likelihood problem at the moment. I think when this season comes to a finish, Ramos is going to be a consensus top 100 prospect.

That’s fair, I actually thought his BB rate was higher than it was.

I’m assuming Dalquist will be on the mound today. If so, hopefully he’s better than he was last time out.

Where is Vaughn in this scenario?