Chicago White Sox

Yup...adding a higher end starter would probably be the more prudent move financially, but I won’t be complaining if they want to stack an already strong with another elite hitter.

Ozuna?

Oh fuck that works for me! Anderson, SS Moncada, 3B# Abreu, 1B Cruz, DH Jimenez, LF Grandal, C# Robert, CF Eaton, RF* Madrigal, 2B

On a one year deal there is zero downside.

Ripping Reinsdorf for being cheap already paying dividends!

Bears have no shot at Watson. Miami or the Jets could blow us out of the water.

Ban bet? @ron883 - How these things work again?

These extensions are all about risk mitigation. If a player wants to maximize his earnings, then an early extension is probably not the way to go. But that isn’t the agent’s call and who is anyone to tell Giolito or Moncada they are stupid for wanting to hedge their bets and lock up a fuckton of money.

No way he’s getting a $40M AAV, come on dude

We have been active and it could definitely be worse, but under no circumstance does Jerry deserve accolades for this offseason. In this market we could have done serious damage with a willingness to spend, but right now a roughly league average payroll and a minimal increase vs. 2020 looks like what we’ll get despite claiming we are going for it. We have no choice but to accept that, but we can at least call out clowns like Sullivan who are trying to sell us fans a false narrative.

My favorite quote in that article is this: Like that is some serious water carrying or whatever you kids call it these days!

My money is still on Richards, although that “by Sunday” prediction is not looking so hot at the moment!

I think most of us are excited about Kopech, but he hasn’t pitched in forever and will be on a strict innings limit. He should the start the year in AAA as our 6th starter and that’s totally fine.

Depends on what the cost is and how much Jerry is willing to spend. I do like Musgrove a lot better than most of the free agent starters, but I’m also hesitant to give up say Jared Kelley for him. It’s really a tough call IMO.

I felt it was time to celebrate our great owner Jerry Reinsdorf and applaud him for going all out amidst a financially crippling pandemic. Times are tough, even for billionaires, but that’s not stopping Jerry from playing at the top of free agency and doing what needs to be done to deliver us a World Series caliber product. Come October and we’re holding that beloved trophy, don’t forgot moments like when Jerry won that bidding war for Adam Eaton despite the financial duress it likely caused him. We truly are lucky to have an owner who puts winning above all else atop our organization. Thank you Jerry from the bottom of all our hearts!! Looks like great minds think alike as Paul Sullivan wrote a fantastic piece about this very subject. I recommend everyone read this and thank Paul for this excellent, though-provoking article. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-chicago-white-sox-liam-hendriks-jerry-reinsdorf-20210116-rhgupqhn5rhivlpu7xh5jyqnxq-story.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

We should aim higher than a #5 type starter.

In a perfect world, Kopech, Lopez, & Stiever enter the 2021 season as our #6, #7, & #8 starters. I think those guys would work very well in those roles, but failing to add another starter moves them all up a spot and forces one of them (likely Lopez) into our opening day rotation. That’s not acceptable for a team looking to win the World Series next year.

Agree with this.

We’re arguing semantics here, but I would consider trading important core pieces like Cease, Kopech, Crochet, or Vaughn to be an all-in move. I love Dunning but he is simply not that caliber of prospect.

The Lynn trade wasn’t an all-in move given where Dunning was in the pecking order. It definitely shifted future value into the 2021 season, but we still have Giolito plus Kopech, Cease, & Crochet as potential high-end arms ahead of him in our long-term plans.

How would free agent starters make us weaker when our #5 right now is Reynaldo Lopez?

I think Beef is grasping at straws here a bit with this Perez stuff. I’m sure we checked in on him, but I doubt we were ever serious. I still think Hahn is targeting Richards or Quintana and is playing a bit of chicken with them. If he fails in those pursuits and nothing materializes on the trade front, I could see Wainwright or Archer as backup plans, but I see those being last resorts.

I think Musgrove is far more interesting and would likely blow Quintana out of the water in terms of production. And Tanaka isn’t going to be cheap and will require multiple years. I’m not saying we should do the trade, but I could very easily see that being the price.

Musgrove for Kelley + Beard...who says no?

What have you heard on potential prices for Gray?