Chicago White Sox

Honestly, I was feeling very confident until Teorey pretended to play insider again. This really could be the mark of death for us.

This is a really strange take that ignores all other considerations (such as cost to acquire) in favor of ethnic background & geographic upbringing.

He’s the worst troll in the history of the board as he actually uses hate to get attention. People need to put this clown on ignore and move on.

If you were willing to go 5/$110M, does an extra year and $10M really matter? Is that what you’re losing your top pitching target over?

That would be fan-fucking-tastic!

I think we sign a second starter and I have faith that Cease & Kopech can be useful rotation pieces next year. As for the timing of a potential Joc trade, it all depends on the price. That being said, I would definitely be more aggressive with Wheeler already in the fold.

We are going for it next year and Joc would be a big part of that. Saying he would useless if we miss the playoffs is straight up ridiculous. If the price is a fringe prospect like Rutherford, I’m 100% for it. I’d much rather risk the 1/1000 chance Blake develops into a star than go with a questionable stop-gap in RF who may potentially cost us a year of Moncada, Giolito, Eloy, etc.

Alright, it’s definitely happening!? Stone wouldn’t lie to us right??

No one in the world thought Marcus Semien was a potential superstar at the time of that trade. Not one person and I say that as one of his biggest fans on this board. As for Tatis, he got a $700k signing bonus and was generally viewed in the 25th to 30th range in that signing class. If other teams thought he had superstar upside, he would have gotten a lot more money. Point is, there will always be uncertainty with prospects and it sounds like your strategy is trade none of them to prevent the low chance of accidentally trading a future star.

We literally almost got him for Fulmer and an interesting relief prospect last year.

How many potential future stars do you think are sitting in our system right now that aren’t named Robert, Madrigal, or Vaughn? You are going to an extreme because of one in thousand outcomes. Yes, we were burned twice, but that can happen to anyone. For fucks sakes, the Dodgers gave up Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields. Are they also a shit run organization?

Scouts have differing opinions all the time. The Dodgers wanted Fulmer a year ago when most other organizations probably didn’t value him very highly. Now he’s out of options and probably close to worthless. At the end of the day, we shouldn’t be holding prospects simply because we’re afraid of being wrong. Have faith in your self scouting and try to maximize value.

Never said one year rents are the only option, but what do you think a guy like Blake Rutherford is going to get you right now? Also, I strongly disagree with the idea of all one year rentals being bad. There is nothing wrong with trading fringe prospects for guys that can help you now, even if said player is only control for one more season.

I’d hold onto Adolfo & Basabe. I do like Walker, but I think I’d explore his trade value while there is still some hope he can play CF. That being said, I wouldn’t sell him for pennies on the dollar.

I mean, if your fear is we don’t know which guy(s) will be good and who will be bad, there’s no guarantee we ever give the right guy an opportunity. So instead of operating in fear, self scout as best you can and extract value where possible.

Shut up.

Sanchez is not ideal for a roster that will have Moncada, Anderson, & Madrigal locking down the infield for the vast majority of the year. Get a guy that actually provide some utility in other areas, because a late inning defensive replacement is not what we need.

So your plan is to hold onto all of them in hopes that one of them exceeds expectations rather use some of them you don’t really like to fill holes on the major league roster or acquire minor league depth?

No thanks.

Is he a scout?

Post it!!

KW used to be fantastic at self-scouting, but we’ve definitely struggled quite a bit under Hahn.

Adolfo has star potential and is worth holding onto IMO even if the odds are low he reaches his ceiling. But someone like Rutherford should be moved if he still has any value left. He’s one bad season away from being worthless.

This is just cherry-picking one bad deal. How many prospects actually amount to anything? I’m still not sure what you’re suggesting with our OF glut. Another bad season and some of those guys will have zero trade value.

Yup, just got to hope they can close this out! With Grandal & Wheeler in place, we have much more flexibility and can be patient for the right opportunities to complete the rest of the roster.