DirtySox

QUOTE (TheHugeUnit @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) You look at stuff, not stats when you grade a minor leaguer. You look at both. And yes, age relative to league is important.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 12:49 PM) I don't see many people being upset, let alone vitriol towards him. And $14 million isn't anywhere near market value? He's earned much more than 1 year. I also don't buy all this retirement talk he throws out there.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 12:37 PM) Mark Buehrle loves the White Sox, and made it clear thats where he wanted to play. The White Sox decided he wasnt in their plans. I dont know how I can hate a guy for actually going somewhere where he is wanted and valued. This. People are really going to be upset at Mark for going elsewhere? Especially if he doesn't have the option to return here at anything remotely close to market value? All this dumbfounded vitriol I'm reading should be spat at a combination of Kenny/Dunn/Rios/Peavy for creating a situation where bringing Mark back isn't an option.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 12:01 PM) If it indeed does happen in the next 24 hours, given that the Sox haven't moved enough salary yet, that probably means he is gone. Bucket seem to imply that's the case.

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN Mark Buehrle has reduced the teams he's going to sign to 3 and decision expected to be made within 24 hours 10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

susanslusser Susan Slusser I have had it confirmed that the #Tigers are trying to make a strong push for Gio Gonzalez. #Athletics 18 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Retweeted by jonmorosi

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) Sox and Orioles could match up very well. Baltimore has a lot of what the Sox want now -young upside pitching. MLB guys like Britton, Tillman, or system talent like Parker Bridwell. I'm not sold on Tillman. I figured Britton to untouchable. Bridwell isn't bad. High upside, but pretty risky.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 07:10 PM) I would love to see Bundy part of the deal.. The guy is the real deal Not happening.

I'm not sure the Orioles match up well with the White Sox. I also wonder if Coop is angling for a Matusz to fix.

scottmerkin Scott Merkin Brad Bergesen one of the names floated by Orioles to White Sox in potential trade talks. Could include Quentin and/or Floyd 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Wat?

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) If you make Reed the closer and he doesn't get the job done...then what do you do? It is a gamble with Reed. You need a Plan B if you go with Reed in the closer role as Plan A. Who cares? A fantastic closer is the last thing you need during a rebuild.

cst_Cowley cst_Cowley Just spoke to an agent who said KW has told Buehrle's camp the Sox will not match the offers out there. 58 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 05:49 PM) Sounds like YOU need to buy a Rios jersey. Nice.

DKnobler DKnobler White Sox rebuilding: If they get what they want, Danks, Floyd, Quentin, Beckham all will be gone by opening day 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 04:45 PM) Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Exec: white sox asking for 'ubaldo Jimenez package' for John Danks. Good. Play hard ball. Yea... Good luck with that Kenny.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) What is it about the team that shouts first in the AL Central? The Tigers aren't going anywhere and will remain incredibly strong. Couple that with the Wild Card routinely going to the AL East, and all the sudden 2nd - 5th in the AL Central don't really matter. I think the Royals will add a pitcher and finally jump the Sox this year. That team is set everywhere but a pitcher or two in the rotation. Not sold on Cleveland personally, but I can see the Twins and Sox at the bottom next year very easily.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 02:22 PM) And KW is apparently trying to make my other post talking about the trades look completely false. At the moment Buehrle is gone and Danks and Floyd are beginning to look like deadline trades. Ugh.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) I may have misheard the #, but he was talking about the Blue Jays' yet-to-be published 2012 top 30 prospects. He mentioned Molina would be the Sox's #2 and noted the difference between the two systems. Trust me, I hope I misheard him. If so, they really don't think he's going to end up a starter.

Reposting for the ledge jumpers. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 01:03 PM) #18 in their system? That doesn't sound right. It isn't right. It was last year's ranking. BA hasn't done 2012 for the Jays yet. Sickels didn't have him on his top 20 last year, and he moved all the way to number 2 for 2012.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 01:03 PM) #18 in their system? That doesn't sound right. It isn't right. It was last year's ranking. BA hasn't done 2012 for the Jays yet. Sickels didn't have him on his top 20 last year, and he moved all the way to number 2 for 2012.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 12:51 PM) I've got high hopes for a pitcher with a strong splitter working with Coop. You and me both. But until then, I just go with the guys who know WAY more about these players than I do.

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Remember all those people telling me Nestor Molina was a future one? That guy got you Sergio Santos. #NotAOne 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein That's the thing, this is actually a pretty good trade for both side if you are realistic about what Molina is. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 12:42 PM) Supposedly this Molina kid has a plus splitter, and if you combine that with excellent command than yea, you have a potential all-star pitcher. It seems the overwhelming consensus is that he's a middle of the rotation guy. A number 3 as his ceiling. Could be a 2 though. I still like the trade.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) Unless you consider Dan Hudson and Chris Sale things that havent worked, I would say moving guys through the system quickly has been a decent philosophy of late. Perhaps. No starting minor league time for Sale could hurt though. We'll see this year. I'd also argue that Beckham being rushed hurt as well. I hope Kenny sticks to what he said in that he won't rush him. Do him like the Rays do. If rebuilding, this team isn't doing anything next year anyway.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) He's a AA guy at this point. I am guessing they accelerate this guy to a debut late this year or next. I sure hope not. Let him develop. Lord knows rushing guys hasn't worked in the past. Especially if we are indeed rebuilding.