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Sox trying to move Thornton
QUOTE (Marty34 @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) Buehrle fills a need in rebuilding though. He'd suck up innings. Perhaps. I'm not all that interested in who's sucking up innings during a rebuild period though. I think I'd rather see cheap retreads or prospects taking their lumps.
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Sox trying to move Thornton
QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 29, 2011 -> 11:20 AM) If the Sox are actively trying to move Thornton, Danks, and Floyd, they don't think they can win next year. If they're doing it to try to find money for Buehrle, they're beyond stupid. I don't think that's the case, but I wouldn't put anything past Reinsdorf. Agreed. This team isn't magically getting better by dumping their tradeable assets merely to resign MB. I see it as a lateral move at best. I fear this is indeed the goal though, and I also fear it will continue to leave the organization in between. Not bad, but not good either. I'm not sure why Mark would want to return if this is the case.
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2012 AL Central Catch-All thread
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal Sources: Broxton to #Royals on 1-year deal, pending physical. Creates options with Soria: Start him, trade him, keep him at closer. #MLB 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
jimcallisBA Jim Callis #mlbdraft changes looking more dire. Just heard from club exec who said pool for first 10 rounds closer to $180 mil than reported $200 mil 52 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply jimcallisBA Jim Callis More from exec: If you don't sign a pick, you lose his cap value. You can't not sign 1st-rder & spend his $ elsewhere. #mlbdraft 51 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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2012 Minor League Catch All thread
Wilkins is the better prospect. Agreed with above though. Neither are likely to ever crack the Bigs.
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Packages that would net us a haul
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MLB CBA Thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) It does not cripple them in any way. It doesn't make it more difficult for them to sign players, it actually makes it easier for them to sign players they draft early in the first round. There's no more "Does Stras need $50 million" to worry about. This isn't hard to grasp. The Royals/Pirates etc haven't had trouble signing players they pick in the 1st round. They have been opening their wallets for tons of players seeking over-slot throughout the entire draft, despite the round. This is why they have been leading baseball in overslot bonuses these last few years. These teams have chosen to build from within, as they need to, and have spent accordingly. These teams take advantage of those that are too cheap or too stupid to invest in amateur talent that might cost a premium. The CBA effectively ends this practice by essentially allowing any team to select said talent as prices are now largely restricted with this over cap tax. I can't fathom that people think this is good for said teams. The overwhelming consensus is that this is terrible for them. This isn't just some random whim here. It's astounding that people think otherwise. KG put it as succinct as possible: Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein You know how the Royals have a great system? They did that through spending big money on the draft. Strategy now basically illegal. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein You know how the Rangers have a remarkable wealth of high-ceiling talent due to incredible international work? Strategy now illegal. 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 22, 2011 -> 12:54 PM) I feel like it reins it in on both sides of the spectrum. It severely cripples teams like the Royals, Pirates, Jays, and Nationals. It's going to hurt them much more than teams like the Red Sox and Rangers. But otherwise yes, the teams in the middle will benefit from this.
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MLB CBA Thread
QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 22, 2011 -> 12:52 PM) I'm sensing that everyone else is hating this, but I love it. As a White Sox fan, we should love it. Certainly. I'm disappointed in how it hurts certain teams though.
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MLB CBA Thread
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein You know how the Royals have a great system? They did that through spending big money on the draft. Strategy now basically illegal. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein You know how the Rangers have a remarkable wealth of high-ceiling talent due to incredible international work? Strategy now illegal. 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
JeffPassan Jeff Passan The big question is if this will prevent amateur talent from coming into baseball. And the overwhelming sentiment from the industry is: Yes. 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 22, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) @Kevin_GoldsteinKevin Goldstein Remember Theo's press conference with the Cubs? Remember about the big investment in scouting and development? Bye-bye. That's a good point. Sucks for the Royals/Pirates/Jays who have been dumping money in the draft, but also hurts teams like the Red Sox, Rangers, and Cubs. The benefactors are largely the cheap-ass teams unwilling to spend on amateur talent.
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MLB CBA Thread
Ding ding ding. Good for the White Sox, bad for baseball.
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MLB CBA Thread
Minor league deals only? Terrible.
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MLB CBA Thread
jimcallisBA Jim Callis Yes, I want to hear exact details but this is essentially hard slotting. @bgeary8: They're asinine in my extremely humble opinion. #mlbdraft 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply jimcallisBA Jim Callis Purpose of #mlbdraft is reducing costs, not parity. @themanofseal: Are these rules an attempt at creating parity through the draft? 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Before we go congratulating baseball on labor peace, we should maybe worry about just what they did here. This is bad for the future. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Under the rules of the new CBA, Bubba Starling is an option QB at Nebraska, never to be seen on a diamond again. 26 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Waiting to see actually numbers on draft/international caps. It's somewhere between horrible and dreadful. 51 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
JeffPassan Jeff Passan Every team will have $2.9M to spend in international bonus money this season. Money is not tradeable this year. 50 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
JeffPassan Jeff Passan Draft tax is harsh: Teams that go more than 5% over slot get a 75% tax. From 5-10% over, a 75% tax and loss of 1st-round pick the next year. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply JeffPassan Jeff Passan More draft tax: Go 10-15% over, 100% tax and loss of 1st- and 2nd-round picks. 15% and higher is 100% tax and loss of two first-round picks. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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MLB CBA Thread
JeffPassan Jeff Passan International bonuses undergoing drastic overhaul. Among the biggest: Starting in 2013-14, teams can trade $ from their international pool. 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply JeffPassan Jeff Passan For example: Worst team in baseball gets $5M to spend internationally. If team doesn't want to spend it all, it can trade $ to another team. 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply JeffPassan Jeff Passan Teams can trade for only 50% more than their international spending cap. So if a team has a $2.5M cap, most it can trade for is $1.25M. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Weird. Intriguing too.
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MLB CBA Thread
DKnobler DKnobler One agent said 100 percent of GMs secretly oppose new draft rules. I'm not sure it's 100, but I think most oppose 49 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply DKnobler DKnobler Many small and mid-market teams see draft/international as only way to compete worry that owners will take that away 55 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Packages that would net us a haul
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2011 -> 07:50 AM) So basically we'd be trading Santos for Adam Dunn of old. Not entirely. Yonder will hit for more average, and less power presumably. He hasn't fully tapped into the power potential though.
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Packages that would net us a haul
QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Nov 22, 2011 -> 12:53 AM) Alonso has played in over a 100 games in LF in the minors. Yonder is absolutely abhorrent in LF. It's one of the primary reasons he's being shopped. He's a 1B or DH in the grand scheme of things, and he's currently blocked by Votto. I still remember Alonso's first MLB showing in left. It was against the Cubs, and he turned a Tony Campana single/double into an inside the park HR. You can view it here. Despite his defensive shortcomings, I'm a big fan of his. He can and will hit.
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2012 MLB Catch All thread
QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 07:07 PM) Joe Nathan to Texas. Guess they're seriious about moving Feliz to the rotation this time. 2 Years, 14.5 million guaranteed, with a 2014 team option. Methinks Kenny can get a better return in a Thornton trade than people think.
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2012 ZiPS Projections Released
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) You just don't get how things work... The trade Dunn/Rios posts have to be in jest now, right? Right?
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AFL thread
QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 11:51 PM) I can assure you that Kuhn is not eligible for the minor league phase. Losing him wouldn't be a loss to me. Same for Brandon Short. Danks could be a minor annoyance because I think he could be a solid fourth OF option. I think Doyle is the most likely to be selected, followed by Kuhn, then Danks. I don't think I would miss anyone but Doyle really. Also, not protecting Jordan is pretty telling on what's going to happen with John.