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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 08:00 AM) That's kind of my point - he either can, or cannot, say he knows a lot about some given team. He's willing to post a rumor of obvious silliness like this, but mocks a rumor that was more well-supported and logical about Adrian Gonzalez. Basically, if he can find something obscure that hasn't been wide-published yet, he'll prefer that because it makes his site look better. Something that the rest of the world got first, he'll set a higher bar to be recognized. Its just him defending his turf, which is somewhat understandable, but still hypocritical. Because SoxNet isn't sponsored by ESPN. Speaking of ESPN, their White Sox depth chart is absolute bull****. http://espn.go.com/mlb/teams/depth?team=chw Edit: Man, Wise is still on there.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 11:07 PM) So they blow off the Adrian Gonzalez stuff, but expect us to believe the guy who has been throwing at our players for years, to the extent that we banned to AAA a player who wouldn't retaliate back, and yet we are after him? What f***ing idiots. AJ would aim for his head when he's throwing the ball back to the mound.

QUOTE (League @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 06:01 AM) So, if this is your logic, you must think Gavin Floyd is pretty horrible as well, right? Career: 36-29 - 4.67 ERA - .259 avg - 1.37 WHIP Man, this guy must have sucked: 34-45 - 4.28 ERA - 1.338 WHIP ...oh wait. That's Greinke pre-2009.

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 2, 2009 -> 01:33 AM) I looked at the picture, and your Avatar seemed to have the perfect reaction.

Well, that would make Gordon the AL's premier 2B.

Thornton only goes if we get a mega-star in return, because he's the best LH setup man in the game, and has huge trade value with his contract.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 10:56 AM) Morel shouldn't factor in to Joe Crede getting what would essentially be an invite to spring training. The minor league contract part of that is an informality, as most of the time guys like that have a clause written in where if they aren't going to make the major league team, they are to be released so that they have the chance to catch on somewhere else if they want. Crede wouldn't be going to Charlotte. Exactly, never plan you're signings (especially minor league offers) on AA prospects.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 11:39 PM) I don't want any part of his bat. Maybe I should have clarified.... If he was healthy (could get over back issues) and possibly return to '06 form, I'd be ecstatic.

My eyes can not go unscathed.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) Crede trying to do what Pods did last year...hmm... If it came down to accepting a minor league deal, I wonder if his top two choices would be here and his hometown Royals. If Crede could return I'd be ecstatic to have that glove and bat back at third.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 05:03 PM) why is Boston seem to be so willing to trade Ellsbury? A great leadoff hitter, young, probably still cheap, I would think you would want to hold onto him. I think Scott said it on page 2 but... They have great farm depth, along with the fact they could get in a Granderson sweepstakes to replace him.

I want Shack to call into White Sox Weekly and this debate to happen again, it'd be radio gold.

In summation: '09 - Has potential to be very good. '08 - Slayerific with extra goodness in Huddy, D2, and Morel. '07 - Not wonderful, but Poreda helped nab Peavy. '06 - Sucked.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 08:33 PM) He has also not done enough to keep the small market teams respectable in the sport, unlike most of the other major sports. The draft and the handling of international players is still a complete disaster when compared to baseball and hockey especially. Yea, the draft is downright awful, international prospects start bidding wars and generally are the top rookies as they've had great seasoning (essentially meaning: More money=what would be the #1 pick), and its amazing how small the level of different playoff teams are each year.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 04:43 PM) His wife is really hot, too. More reason we need him, to add to the Hot Sox Wives.

Wow, should have been pass interference on that last one... God INT's shouldn't count when its mainly the WR's fault.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) Are you guys worried about our team speed heading into next year? Ranger? Others? Yes or no. Only reason I dislike the Andruw Jones signing, because it knocks De Aza off the roster as the speed guy from the bench, unless we really do have a rotating DH. Though Alexei, Rios, Beckham aren't slow and could all have possibly 20 SB. If we get Pods he could have 40 SB, but be caught 15+ times. But who am I kidding. Paulie will have 100 SB.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 28, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) /destruction of the universe, Rickey-style. Well, Rickey seems like the guy to go out with a bang.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 28, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) He's probably not better than Jenks right now, although their ERAs were pretty much the same, but he may be by April and he'll be about $6.5 million cheaper for the 2010 season. I do know KW loves this guy but so does Theo. I don't think the Red Sox would make this offer even though Alexei is very cheap for his position and production. For KW it would be a no brainer. Bard doesn't have to close. They can use Thornton to close, and with the financial savings, sign Hudson or Polanco, add a DH and you could seriously talk about the WS again. Its too nice for the Sox. It could never happen. I'm thinking some reasoning behind the deal would be Theo Epstein sometimes does deals for the sake of doing deals (Kotchman-LaRoche, and I can't see any other reason for Kotsay-Anderson). Plus, you get the possibly elite SS in Alexei and a closer backup plan/setup man in Bobby.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 28, 2009 -> 03:03 PM) The big question, why couldn't a scientist just clone Rickey Henderson? The paradox. Rickey would be confused, because Rickey is the best of all time. But if Rickey is the best of all time, then how is Rickey the best of all time?

Who wants the horrific task of summarizing the Shack-Rongey debate? My god, I think I understood it...but so much text...

QUOTE (3E8 @ Nov 28, 2009 -> 12:43 AM) Guess she found out about his mistress Tiger needs 18 holes to be a happy man. Not just three.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 28, 2009 -> 01:34 AM) And didn't he already get busted for an amphetamine but it wasn't "illegal" yet? Yea, but the thing is, can you be penalized for something not banned (though wasn't it illegal in the US? I don't know), and I think thats what all the people refer to when they say he did 'roids. Also, McGwire has one of the crappiest brothers ever.

Voted: Alomar - Defense/bat/speed Baines - Clutch/bat/defense in early career Dawson - All around great Blyleven - Good pitcher who fell 13 W's short of the magic number, but had 3000 + K's Martinez - Great bat Mattingly - Defense/bat Raines - Ungodly speed/bat Ventura - Defense/good bat Rose - Seriously, as steroids have shown, it can be a lot worse. And least he cheated after he played. McGwire - I put him on because as knightni said, no positive test for anything banned at the time. However, only ones I see getting in this year are Raines/Alomar/Dawson.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Nov 27, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) I still don't get why everybody is so ready to just throw Beckham in the 3 hole. IMO...he's just NOT ready for that role yet. Gordon's gonna hit .500-100 HR-300 RBI next year . I just wanna see what he could do there, because I can see him excelling.