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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:09 PM) What do you think we could get for Shipps? Fernando Tatis, Jr.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Man, I know its all we got right now but how are you guys still interested with offering up hypothetical's for Q? Havent we already ran through about all the possibilities like 1000 times through, if not more, for each possibility multiple times? Q for Chris Sale

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 07:18 AM) This is where people have zero idea of history. Your mention of the "refusal to assimilate" couldn't be more normal in terms of history. Heck go all of the way back to colonial times. Religious groups struck out on their own. Ever heard of the Pligrims? How about the Quakers? The Amish? The Mormons too. Ethnic groups were no different. Indians, Africans, Irish, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, Germans, over time were some of the more prominent targets. Typically these groups came here in search of something new, and met with resistance because they didn't speak English and their customs offended the people who were already assimilated. The first generations usually didn't try to blend. They stayed in their ethnic neighborhoods, spoke the old language, kept the old customs, and never really became "American's" Many even turned to crime to make their way as traditional ways were closed to these groups. Whether it was the "Irish Need Not Apply" or the redlining of entire cities to keep the undesirables in their own places such as Chinatown and Little Italy, it has been done over our whole history. But every, single, time an amazing thing happened. The second generation started to leave that behind. They spoke English outside of the house, and spoke the native tongue in it. They picked up American customs, and turned to education as their way out of the neighborhoods. By the third generations it might only be a last name that would sell out an ethnic background. By the 4th and 5th generations, the ethnic identities faded to the point they were really of the old world anymore, they were Americans first, and something else later. The incredible part of that is that it was all voluntary. It wasn't like Soviet Russia where assimilation was forced, or Nazi Germany where the undesirables were just disposed of. People became Americans because they wanted to be Americans. The greatness of America has always been that people, no matter where they came from, always turned into Americans in a matter of a couple of generations. Pretty much unless we put the boot of discrimination on their necks, the transition has been seamless. With the banning of Muslims of certain countries coming to the United States, nothing has really changed. These elements have always held power in the United States, and they have always hid under the veil of trying to save us from the latest group we should be scared of. At times, they got enough power to make lives miserable for their targets. We banned the Chinese from immigrating at times. We rounded up the Japanese and put them into interment camps. We tried to send the Africans back to Africa. Despite all of this, these groups have still turned into Americans over time. I am here today to tell you that using history as my guide, Muslims won't be any different. Give America a couple of generations with these immigrants, and while you might have a few bad apples, they will be fat and lazy Americans in two generations. To me that is the ultimate victory. Our culture and society is so incredible that it wins out, and it wins out voluntarily. If we ever get to the point where this history stops, THAT is when we quit being great. You want proof? My hometown is FULL of Syrian refugees and immigrants that haven't blown up any buildings. They haven't used a single suicide vest. Guess what, they have been coming here for over a century just for the opportunity to work. So while some want to live in fear of the latest boogeyman group, history tells me that fear is wasted. Quit being scared of immigrants. Don't live your life in fear. The ultimate in living scared is trying to hide from other cultures. You want to make American great? Learn from your history instead of being scared and wrong. I've read this before... Still good

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 02:18 PM) Totally agree there. But it's going to be really hard to change. Well, Obama's trying.

QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) If the Sox were to accept a Pirates package of Glasnow, Keller, Newman, and Hayes for Q. Would the Sox be able to then package something at the deadline like Robertson(assuming healthy), Glasnow, and Adams to the Yanks for Frazier and Rutherford? Flipping Glasnow would have to happen when they acquire him, not later.

QUOTE (Soha @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) The take I'm getting from all these off-season moves and rumors is that hitters are worth more than pitchers. That's why I figured we would have to throw in Jones to get Theo to consider. Eh, this offseason is weird. Glasnow-Jimenez is a swap. Jones has significant value on his own.

QUOTE (Soha @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 11:35 AM) Speaking of the Cubs, now that's where you might get Theo to bite. He's already said they over-drafted hitters because they are worth more and they intended all along to trade some of the hitters for pitching. Maybe the Chapman trade finished that off....or maybe not? What if the Sox made that trade with Pittsburgh, then flipped Glasnow and Jones to the Cubs for Eloy Jimenez? Which side says no to that? The Cubs get a top notch reliever and a stud pitching prospect in the general range of where Jimenez is ranked. Glasnow is ranked higher than Jimenez. If I'm doing Glasnow + Jones, I need Jimenez, Candelario and some interesting arm.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) The Abreu/Moncada friendship is no small thing, either. Anything is possible, but you want Moncada to be comfortable when he's with the big league club. The right deal is the right deal, but I would move Frazier first. Those two are attached at the hip.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 29, 2017 -> 05:38 PM) In the last hour there are suddenly reports from several sources that the CBP is handcuffing and removing the detained travelers from Dulles to an off site location as a way to get around the court order requiring access to counsel if held at Dulles. Source?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2017 -> 10:18 PM) @yashar POTUS signed an order this afternoon which removed the Director of National Intelligence from National Security Council + added Steve Bannon Congrats. Our Joint Chiefs now have an anti semite. I would also like to see anyone defend this.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 29, 2017 -> 02:45 AM) We all heard the same about Beck coming out of Georgia Southern (projected to go 1-1 to 1-5)...but hopefully Hansen's the real deal. And Basabe should the next position prospect to pop up on that list. He was a potential Top 10, very different than 1-1.

Benintendi or Torres #1?

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2017 -> 04:50 PM) Why all the EOs when he has House and Senate? Idk but if it was Obama, Republicans would be s***ting themselves.

Steve f***ing Bannon's quote is nothing more than another attempt at de and intimidating the media. Just like how the White House's weekly immigrant crime list is nothing more than Nazi Propaganda 101.

What we do understand is that Trump tapped into anger and talking points and that people wanted to hear, they just felt comfortable not paying attention to who said it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 07:17 AM) The last sentence is 100% true. Yeah, I don't understand why elderly Republicans feel the need to scream at my students for covering their election event without bias, saying the poor liberal media and poor college students are f***ed. What we don't understand is that no matter the sourcing, the facts proven, the vetting, etc. why the Trump supporters are so willing to believe easily proven and verifiable lies. MSNBC, Fox and CNN do not an industry make. But then again, resident White House Nazi Steve Bannon knows.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) What? https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/824712911511756805 NEWS: @PressSec tells pool that Trump intends to pay for wall by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico. So now we are paying for it? My grocery store is f***ed.

QTalk continues.

Obama kept or compromised on 75% of his promises. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/pr...bameter/browse/

After the past five days, my answer is "someone qualified"

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 08:25 PM) Reddy, why did she want to be President, other than to be the first woman? It was never crystal clear. I don't even remember her campaign tagline, but we all know Trump's and Obama's. They tried 2-3 different ones but nothing stuck. I also find it pretty telling that a lot of Clinton Foundation initiatives are being wound down now that they're seemingly permanently out of power...that indicates to that me their motivations for helping people were more calculated and political than altruistic and philanthropic. Helping people is a lifetime calling to service that doesn't just stop when you lose an election. Uh, her 30 years of public service and campaign platform kinda made it clear.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) She was a legitimately awful candidate. Twice she was anointed the next President. Twice she blew it. There was just nothing about Hillary Clinton that spoke to the American people by and large, other than she wasn't Donald Trump. She could barely hold off Bernie Sanders for the nomination, and she lost to the worst Presidential major party candidate since Andrew Jackson. I mean you can try blaming the right wing for that, but if that was the case, how come they didn't work their magic to take down Barack Obama at some point? She had very little issue holding off Bernie

Already discussed.

Steve Bannon is registered to vote in two states, so there's the voter fraud.