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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 04:57 AM) First, let me thank you for actually talking about it...it's a bit refreshing to discuss it versus simply having to go on the defense because "the movie literally causes cancer" type comments most come in here and post for some reason. The Batman stuff made perfect sense to me, and I actually really liked it for a number of reasons. First and foremost, Batman always kills depending on the canon you follow, and this was obviously Frank Millers Batman. Keep in mind, there are probably 50 versions of Batman, and that's the one they decided to follow here. This is clearly the Arkham Batman, and frankly, I'm glad for that. I didn't need to see yet another Batman we've already seen 50 times in the movies. Also, I don't know where people got this notion that Batman doesn't kill, even in the older movies, he openly kills people and did so quite often. As for this specific version, I felt they really told the Batman story quite well as to what's happened to him in that world, he's simply stopped caring about criminals and doesn't care how cruel he's become. I think they adequately explained that. You're second point is well taken, about everything being iconic...but that's Snyder for you. One thing Snyder does well is capture the levity of a scene, he can really make a sequence feel larger than life, but sometimes he doesn't know when to say when as shown in BvS (and frankly, other movies of his). Supermans death sequence itself was well shot, but I agree, it could have been done WAY better had they given the moment time to breath a bit...Snyder had so much going on in that sequence and it happened so fast it was hard to see what actually happened when Superman could have gotten away, but instead of doing so, sacrificed himself for "his world". The journalist thing is well explained in the "ultimate edition" where Clark is actually given ample screen time as a journalist, had they just shown that movie, regardless of it's three hour run time, it would have done the world a favor. The studio wanted to avoid the R rating and the run time, and in order to do so, cut out a LOT of Clark/Superman scenes. While some complain that you shouldn't need 3 hours to tell the story, Snyder did, and the 3 hour cut is a superior movie in every regard despite it's run time. I do think the casting of Gadot and Affleck turned out to be brilliant. I never really questioned the casting like a lot of people did, but I think both really look and feel the part. Sadly, most people wouldn't give Gadot the time of day for no real reason, since I guarantee most didn't even know who she was before they looked her up, and Affleck, it's as if they think this is still the Gigli/Daredevil Affleck from the 90's, when in fact it's the one that directs and stars in Oscar caliber films these days like Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo. I don't know if there's redeeming that journalism stuff. Like, the Planet would have a sports desk. And Clark would be fired in 10 minutes. I won't judge that until I eventually see the extended cut. QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 09:26 AM) Batman killing in BvS was something that people really complained about, but Batman has always killed people. It's this urban legend that superheroes never kill, but it's not really true. Bob Kane used to have Batman carry a gun and throw people off buildings. So it's nothing new. I do think that Superman was too grumpy in that movie. I didn't mind it at first, but rewatching it a couple times, I think they could have had him be a little more upbeat. It was the killing with guns that unnerved me + his just complete and utter killing non-stop. Like, why are ANY of his villains alive now?

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 12:01 AM) Is there ever any pushback within the organization about the aggressive promotion of guys. I think the DJ has hinted around the topic that he was not a fan on the radio, protecting himself by saying the Twins had been too aggressive with Buxton. But the Sox have gone crazy with this concept. Anderson is probably up too soon. Needs more work learning the strike zone. Rodon could have polished his command and change up in AAA. Danish moved through the system too quickly. Michalczewski over his head in AA. Same for Hawkins (previous two seasons) and Adams. They were patient with trayce Thompson, but what is the explanation for this philosophy? Buddy Bell is bad at his job. But on the note of Rodon, he didn't need all that much more time at AAA, so I can't fault that. The rest...well...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 02:48 AM) When are we going to hold our government officials accountable? They all are out of control. And our candidates? One is a pathological liar and the other is certifiably mad. And both are over 70. Where's the young blood, the new ideas? I want Jesse Ventura as a write in. I'll probably actually write him in. "I want young blood! Not people that are over 70!" *decides to write in a 65 year old* I guess...that's not wrong.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 01:57 AM) What is Obama doing giving 400 million bucks to Iran? WTF? Yet no scandal? Impeachment hearings over this one? http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-...0-million-cash/ We should have spent $1.1 trillion on invading instead.

There was a lot I didn't like about BvS - the plot jumped all over the place, Lex acted recklessly (and killed Mercy...just cause?), Batman killing so openly with guns, Superman being grim and dour, the editing was jumpy and the soundtrack was way, way too loud. But one review I read put it best - it was obsessed with being iconic. Like, every scene. From gods and angels, to piss jars having meaning. Nothing was there for the sake of building. It's like covering the walls of an abandoned, falling apart building with Renaissance artwork. It's why there so little emotional punch behind Supes' death and resurrection. Because there weren't emotional build ups to it...and the fact that Wonder Woman could have just taken the spear. That would have worked. Or he could have thrown it. Like, Jesus, Quicksilver's death was more emotional because it showed the smallest bit of character growth and (let's ignore Coulson) didn't resurrect him in 15 minutes. And also just from the standpoint of a journalist, maaaaaan, Clark woulda been fired so fast. I do think that Batman and Wonder Woman will be able to carry the franchises along until it all improves. Justice League's trailer was a step towards that.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 10:35 PM) How can you call millions of Americans "garbage?" I don't get it. If we Americans think millions of us are "garbage," well God help us all. This world is OVA. Um, did you watch that? Cause pretty easy.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 05:57 PM) I mean... this season... Start 23-10. Collapse on the field, and 4 - count them 4 - position players make their White Sox MLB debuts and get hurt THAT DAY. Two won't return this year. The curse of Drake LaRoche. For. Real.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 3, 2016 -> 10:51 AM) We need to find room for Ranaudo in the rotation for the rest of the season. The odds of him being anything are slim but I'd like to give him a 2 month try out and see what he's got in that short sample size. Should have shipped out Shields for any type of prospect, because I'd have more faith in Ranaudo for next season.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) It's still disingenuous in either regard. DCU printing money -- as in profits -- just not as much as their greedy asses wanted or estimated. That's like saying Google (DCU in this instance) isn't successful because it doesn't make as much money as Apple (Marvel in this instance). They're both very successful, one just more so. A film with the trinity at the height of the super hero craze should have been knocking on the door of two billion. There's a reason so much control is now out of Snyder's hands.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) What's your definition of "bonafide"?? This is his 8th season in the major leagues. Clearly he's enough of a major leaguer to last this long. And Carlos Rodon should be added to that list as well, actually. He's been just fine so far as a 23 year old major leaguer. And Anderson. Fulmer has also (been rushed) reached the big leagues.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) a .678 career OPS is a bonafide major league talent? huh. Compared to most picks, yes.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 02:44 PM) Gordon Beckham. And besides, was Nick Hostetler running those drafts? Don't pretend nothing has changed in the draft room. I know I've said it a couple times but now that we've seen two drafts from Hostetler and seeing some of Paddy's signings come over, those two can stay for now. Buddy Bell on the other hand needs to get the hell out.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 01:25 PM) It IS successful. You and others can keep crowing that it's not, but it is. Not successful to the standards WB held it.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) No, they don't. I don't want DC being another Marvel. As of late, I've disliked every Marvel film that's come out. I like the darker tone of DC movies and I hope they stay the course. These are the same critics that gave that piece of s*** Ghostbusters a near 80%. f*** Rotten Tomatoes. So you don't want DC being...successful? The dark tone of Batman vs. Superman was dreadful. Wonder Woman and Justice League trailers looked like they'll have dark tones, but not so dark that you just get depressed watching it.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 11:31 AM) ESPECIALLY if that other Chicago team goes on a Yankees like run and takes over the city. What young kid is going to want to be a White Sox fan? The Cubs have no effect on the White Sox

Since Q and Sale are still here, might as well fantasize of a Sale-Q-Rodon-Fulmer-Hansen rotation down the road. All getting absolute no run support.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 12:02 AM) I thought using the Muslim family with the slain soldier for political gain was pretty low. Trump responded like an idiot but the fact that the media accepted that as a headline story was just low. Just felt dirty in general and I don't think that does honor to the dead. I know everybody from both parties loves to "bring out the victims to show the human side"...just don't like it ever. Just my take I mean, the mother wrote an Op-ed for the Washington Post, which has basically been at war with Trump. They don't want this to fall to the side.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:06 PM) From Whitesoxdave FWIW I was told the #WhiteSox turned down a Benintendi, Kopech, Johnson/Ball, and PTBNL package for Quintana from #RedSox 0_o

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) Be careful mods. If this board becomes like "the other place" used to be, people will just go right back to "the other place" New Jersey?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) Oh, so she's not crazy just open to the crazy vote? Yup.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 06:04 PM) Also your follow-up on how she is not anti-vaxx doesn't really seem to be holding up. But also her fleshed out response there about how we shouldn't trust government agencies like the CDC and others because they are just Big Business shills is so maddening. Oh, and your platform is to increase reach of gov't that we can't trust because it is controlled by elites? Makes sense. Good platform. She's not anti-vax, but she leaves the door open to appeal to anti-vaxxers. And yeah, her platform is "boo establishment", hence why she was pro-Brexit.

FYI - FutureSox probably wouldn't rank Tilson #5

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 05:20 PM) The Sox have gotten better at scouting young talent, their problem is scouting at the ML level Yeah, Paddy and Hostetler's developments will take time. It's the MLB stuff that's floundering.

Hoping all the negative vibes from SoxTalk pushes his potential to negatives, so it ends up going into positive range. Kinda like Civilization with Gandhi and aggression.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) Only thing to do...get Uribe and reel off a 40-17. f*** yeah.