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QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 09:48 AM) would you rather have Call or Coats? What's the downside with Danny Hayes? One of the few guys we have with decent plate discipline. Call has the higher ceiling, but Coats keeps producing on every level. Hayes' injuries this year likely put a huge dent in his rankings. I was one of the few to include him and I could have just as easily left him off.

Obama was great. He could have done more without Congress hamstringing him. But that speech...amazing.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 06:40 PM) But aren't my charges of Hillary being a horrificly weak candidate also true? I still can't fathom why people had it out for Bernie except the simple reason the Clinton machine must roll on. Chelsea looked Presidential in her seat last night as I watched Bill speak like Bill speaks (very very charming; I told u I loved Bill). I have no idea though why the country wants 16 more years of Clinton. It's not like they wave the wand and America is great again. Oh dear god Greg your opinions are so fear based and off base.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) f*** that. They can ask for anything with either of Sale or Quintana. There is not one prospect in baseball that is anywhere near as valuable as either of them. And if there is a GM that disagrees with that, then that GM is not the right GM to trade with. Let me reiterate: They could literally ask for anything and then some. QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:52 PM) I could not disagree with this post more. And there is literally zero reason to trade Nate Jones. He's cheaper than hell and very good. If someone wants to pay out their nose, you consider it, but Jones should not be shopped. You obviously don't give him away, but I'm talking in regards to getting an even bigger package on top of Q or Sale.

f***.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Well all I know is if I am Rick and another GM calls me and tries to tell me ANY of his prospects is not on the table for Chris or Jose, I'm just going to laugh and hang up. That is simply preposterous. Especially with the Dodgers offering up Urias, other GMs really don't have a card to play. Also, the Sox should try and package Sale and Quintana each with one of Shields or Gonzalez and Robertson or Jones. They could truly ask the Dodgers or Red Sox for anything at that point.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 06:35 PM) Empty promises? Had nothing? How do you know that? A lot of people still want him leading Sarah Silverman to scold those people. Hillary supporters IMO are cheering on a very weak candidate herself. She has some smoking gun incidents (some of us would say crimes) and in my opinion Bernie brings a lot more to the table. What the hell has she done that's so great? To say Bernie has done nothing is pretty harsh. It's also kinda true.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 04:35 PM) Well here's some more. Count the Red Sox out. If that's still there stance they arent going to get anyone. Here we'll take one of the best pitchers in the majors...but you guys cant have any of our best players in the lineup or minors. What a great deal! "but the Red Sox have let other teams know they will not discuss four players: Yoan Moncada, Andrew Benintendi, Michael Kopech and Rafael Devers." http://www.gammonsdaily.com/peter-gammons-...otes-from-july/ lol

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Yeah. There's like three other posts that have a new toy.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 02:39 PM) I think they'll be fortunate to get a Tatis back for Shields. If offered, I'd take it and run. This board would not care about Tatis at all if he weren't traded for Shields.

Chris Sale is on it.

That's really not too much anymore. See: Pomeranz, Miller and Chapman deals

Jeremy, we love you.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 06:51 PM) There's a couple of ways it could split and end up 269/269, in which case it'd go to the House and we'd end up with President Trump. Yeah, let's not do this scenario.

Please god no.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:28 PM) Squints ‏@yeagersaurus @barstoolWSD @Kurkjian_ESPN basicallyjust confirmed your reports on Bogaerts/Betts as the centerpiece for any Sale move on AM1000 whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD 10m10 minutes ago Chicago, IL whitesoxdave Retweeted Squints I wasn't lying when I said this and again, it's why it won't happen I thought that was saying it would happen and was floored.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:06 PM) You got what I was saying though right? It's a fun debate because I love them both. Would miss them a lot if they're traded. Yeah. This is why I'm fine with keeping or trading them. They both could command huge ransom's. Or we still have them, which isn't a bad place to be.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:09 PM) Would be nice to get something back to the equivalent of Tatis Jr. Not sure what he'll be in the end because he's very very young still. I'm not sure what Shields' value is considering his just recent streak of decent outings and contact going forward. Would be crazy if they dealt all four starters (Sale, Q, Shields and Gonzalez). The rotation would be ass but we'd have a completely overhauled farm system and maybe some young potential TOR arms to go along with Rodon, Fulmer. If they trade the rotation, I'd expect Melky, Eaton and Frazier all dealt. Also, aim higher for something like Tatis Jr. That's a name no one but FS guys would know of if not for his inclusion in the deal.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) IMO, considering the trade value we've seen for the likes of Shelby Miller in the off-season, recently Pomeranz and Chapman, Sale and Quintana BOTH should net those two. Now maybe you could argue for Quintana, after those two monster prospects, there may be a drop off of prospects to finish the deal. Whereas, trading Sale you'll land all of their top 4-5 prospects not just 2-3. What I mean is say: Sale equals Moncada, Benintendi, Devers, Kopech and Swihart. Maybe you wouldn't get Devers and Kopech as well so would have to settle for one or the other and Swihart. I don't know man. I wish I was in the know so I could figure out what each might net from Boston. Just my two cents if that makes sense. Couldn't explain it that well lol sorry. Yup, Shelby Miller, Pomeranz and Chapman have made those two monstrous in terms of value.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 03:49 PM) I just saw highlights; I need to watch it. I've always liked her, but I just get sick of the reviews always being so predictable loving the Democrats and mocking the Repubs. on the speeches. I need to watch it soon. I thought Bernie had unbelievable momentum heading into California, win after win after win and the media ignored it, proclaimed him buried and it affected Cali. Had he gotten the proper love he deserved at that point, with so many recent victories, I believe he may have snatched the nomination. Add that to the DNC plotting for ways to burn Bernie ... I don't like it. I love Bernie. THE MEDIA™ has taken your complaints into consideration.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 04:52 PM) The thing that keeps Q from being a better pitcher IMO is Sale has an out pitch. The wipeout slider. Q has to use pinpoint command and control. The thing I like about Quintana however is his gutsy performances out of jams. Sale can get pissed off and rattled whereas Q seems like he can stay level headed and in charge. I'd take Sale over Quintana but it's not a huge gap. The thing I'm curious to see is Q vs Sale in playoff games. That's got my intrigue if they're traded. When Q's curveball is going, it can be an out pitch. Just not to the level of Sale's slider/curve or Rodon's slider when on.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) No chance we'd get both Moncada and Benintendi, but either is perfectly reasonable as a centerpiece if the other pieces are strong. Benintendi is going to be an absolute monster. The contact rate is good, the plate discipline is good, and I've seen the power with my own eyes -- he played our team the year he was drafted, and hit two homers, one of which is the only ball I've ever seen clear the fence, the road, and land in the water outside the Staten Island Ferry. The pop is legit. After the Pomeranz and Chapman deals, Sale probably has the most trade value of any player in MLB history at this exact moment.

Amazing

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) There is some trading deadline mega bong hits going on here. Kolek for Gonzalez, now Shields, the guy who at one time should have cost RH his job, and the guy who should have been released no matter how much they owed him, doesn't have a bad contract and could net a decent return. I imagine the Sox will do something, but I think those thinking they are about to delete half their roster and get about 20 prospects with half of them in the top 50 are going to be disappointed. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 01:48 PM) The only reason I threw it out there was because of the TJS for Kolek putting his future in the air to some extent, and because the market this year is just crazy. This is why I keep adding "I would never stop laughing"

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) Why would you trade Gonzalez just to trade him? He has more value to the Sox than a team like the Marlins, especially if they move Sale or Quintana. Because Kolek is an arm the Sox could definitely develop. It'd be like getting a more hyped version of Montas for Miguel Gonzalez.