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Anybody here still thinks Guillen is a great maanger?

It's criminal the moronic manager allowed Peavy to stand out there and give up 6 runs in the first inning with his team on a win streak.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:36 PM) hawkeroo told us last night that jake is getting stronger........ Jake was a better pitcher right before his arm completely fell off than he is now supposedly healed

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:27 PM) Stewart is not impressive at all to me. Anyway you slice it, going from Hudson to Stewart is awful. They were talking about this on the radio today as well, so it's not just me saying this. Hudson was suppose to turn into Dunn but Kenny got played. Could have found out in a lost season Dunn was going to be a bust - may have changed everything. But I didn't like the Hudson trade no matter what the intention.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:25 PM) That is 100% revisionist history. Peavy only said he would go to a very few teams. That is why other teams didn't go after him. Revisionist my ass the guy was hurt and other teams knew it. Freddy Garcia is pitching for the Yankees - what does that tell you about how desparate teams are for pitching. Peavy would not have been with the Sox if there had been a true market for him. All Peavy has IS his mouth.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) Jake Peavy blows. Where the hell is the moronic Guillen?

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) Just think, we're watching the highest paid pitcher in Sox history on the mound. What an absolute joke he is. He needs to go back to the NL and go back to whatever routine he used to do. Only Williams could find an ace with his arm about to fall off - literally. The fact the Sox even got Peavy told me everyone else knew something was up because the Sox don't outbid other teams for true quality players.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) If we finish over .500 the country is going to view it as the Marlins getting a steal. They get a WS winning manager whose best years are ahead of him as he's still very young. And the Sox wouldn't extend him? Crazy. We could still have a s*** September and all will look fine in canning Ozzie. But Sox potentially could be mocked over this one if we have a good month. After Jenks got the last out in Houston, he's been on a rapid decline. If the Sox win their division it will be despite him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) Cmon. It's not like they are making up a ton of ground where it's some reason for celebration. This is big business and I applaud Ozzie for answering questions honestly. How can you not love this guy with this quote: "And I am a good manager, even if people don’t think I am. Cocky and arrogant, but there are worse guys out there than me.” He is awesome. Sign him up. Move KW upstairs or whatever. Promote Hahn. Ozzie doesn't have to do anything for the rest of his life...how many of us could get away with making comments like that at our places of employment? They'll love him on that idiotic Fox network - he should feel right at home.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 06:10 PM) Does that mean I'm going to have to watch Ozzie on ESPN for the next 15 years You can always turn the channel when you have enough

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Good point, but KW thought he ordered the steak. He ended up with some 80/20 greasy hamburger. KW and Ozzie are about to learn that fat meat ain't greasy.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 01:42 PM) That was a great column. I like these comments by Oz: “Let’s get this straight: I’m the face of the franchise,’’ Guillen said. “People can say what they want. There’s a lot of blame going around out there, but I blame myself because I guess I’m the one with the balls around here. It’s not because I’m cocky or an arrogant guy, but I can leave Chicago with my head up. That’s what’s important to me. “Jerry is the one that has to decide on if [Kenny and I] can make it work. We’re doing it, getting by. We’re not best friends, but we make due. We’re professional. We do what’s best for the ballclub. Our job is more important than our friendship. “I do know I’m trying to win games, period.’’ I still don't see how Ozzie can get the boot considering this team's average record with this s***-ass lineup. You don't fire a manager who has a WS title to his credit and an average record this year. Get rid of Kenny; keep Ozzie. What's so difficult about that? Ozzie is right. He is the face of the franchise. I'd say odds of both taking the fall though are 90/10. Like the article said, this is costing Jerry money now. C'mon..The very fact the manager props himself up to be face of the franchise is enough reason to get rid of him. Who's the face of the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Phillies....certainly not their manager.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) I guess that means Ozzie told Cowley he's resigning. Anyway...could also mean that they have an offer on the table from Florida. Imagine his first trip into Chicago - Sox and Cubs fans at Wrigley Field united - 2012 must be the end of time.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 11:05 AM) What if Ozzie is a Hahn guy? But Kenny should have been afforded the same opportunity. Reinsdorf once again is to blame for all of this. He should have let Kenny rise or fall with his own guy. To now give Hahn the opportunity to do that is grossly unfair - and I don't care for Williams. That's why the Sox just simply need to be sold.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 10:36 AM) He should be on the hot seat. Swisher 1 and 2, Tony Pena, the Jackson trade, Teahen, 2 albatross contracts (3 if you add Peavy). You could almost put 1 and 2 after the Jackson trade. Giving up Hudson to get him and then letting him go for what we got in return - nothing.

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) I don't believe managers in baseball play that much into the outcome of a game. I think the most important part of his job is getting everyone to believe in him and want to play for him. Ozzie does that, for the most part. There was a recent survey that showed Ozzie was the 6th most popular manager to play for. Heard it on the score. If the players don't want to play for him, like a Mike Quade type, then the guy has to go. He doesn't hold his players accountable - that's why they like him.

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 09:48 AM) Getting rid of Kenny seems like the move this off-season, assuming we fall on our faces, and don't make the playoffs. I'm willing to give Ozzie another year. Besides, we have Rick Hahn ready to take over. For some reason, I still like Ozzie....I think because he puts a face on our franchise...although I realize a lot of people don't like that face?!? Some face...the lunatic of baseball..

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) Why can't guillen just worry about baseball and remembering that rios sucks. That is all he needs to do. guillen continues to look like the little pain in the ass cousin that nobody pays attention too so he sets the cat on fire. Instead of watching Venezuelan news and Mexican soap operas maybe figure out that alex rios can not even comprehend how many outs there are in the top of 9th Bump KW up replace him with Hahn and let ozzie and his ego go This is ditka all over again. If Williams and Hahn are here together there's really no change. Does anyone really believe that Paxson isn't the de facto GM of the Bulls? Please. It's just the Reinsdorfian way of taking some of the heat off himself and the people he put in place to run these organizations.

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Aug 29, 2011 -> 10:32 PM) dUNN IS A REALIST. hE IS NOT A BASEBLL PLAYER. I really enjoyed the comment that the fans don't matters as much as the players. Fine, they can sit in the stands and pay to watch each other.

QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 28, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) Dude is just insane. Its hard to believe he is employed. Signing Rios was worse than Dunn. I'll never get that one. A least Dunn came here with an established record of being dominant offensively.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) Ichiro caught it while jumping and his back shoulder bounced up against the wall. The Cell, that's off the wall, maybe over. Ichiro - there's a waste of talent if I ever saw one - still he should make it to the HOF Should have played in bigger venue - like say Chicago

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2011 -> 04:49 PM) They won't play enough. Ozzie won't allow it

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) The GM is supposed to be the higher-up. An owner making baseball decisions is a recipe for disaster. Reinsdorf signed off on the LaRussa firing at the time For better or worse Kenny should have been allowed to pick his own manager. Otherwise, Reinsdorf should declare him as the defacto GM a la Charlie O. But Charlie was a superior judge of talent.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 26, 2011 -> 01:56 PM) I used to say things like this, and now I don't know. What happened to him? This may deserve its own thread discussion. Too many heads games played by Williams and Guillen. They had a superstar in the making and just couldn't help trying to put their imprint on him. It's criminal what this organization has done to Gordon Beckman.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 26, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) I'd rather the White Sox not be a part of paying Humber anything remotely substantial. This year's lightening in a bottle project fizzled out faster than even I figured it would.