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The Bible can't make you hate people. People full of hate use the Bible to justify it. The Bible is not outdated in this area, because it clearly directs us not to hate people or be intolerant.

I'm not sure what you mean by "reformed". The makeup of the Bible has been pretty much consistent since the 5th century, with the notable exception of the Protestant reformation removing the Apocrypha. Interpretations of various parts of the Bible have certainly changed, but not the actual words.

I would think Gillaspie/Keppinger becomes a 3B platoon

Yeah, you never want to be on a list of three teams if one of them is the Cubs.

I wouldn't hate the idea in theory, but in the long run it would be bad for the same reasons the Cubs are considering moving--dumb landmark restrictions preventing the team from pursuing new revenue streams.

If the Cubs actually decided to move to a new stadium in a new location, I'd think that they would just keep playing at Wrigley until the new stadium were ready. No need to play in three different stadiums in three years if it isn't necessary.

Why are people protesting May 1st? Do they think it comes too early--that April should have 31 days?

I hear Brian Anderson is available.

There are some words that, when said by a player or manager to an umpire, lead to automatic ejection. It's pretty logical to conclude that it's not OK for the umpire to say any of those same words to a player or manager. I don't think the umpire is walking towards Price, but it's pretty clear from how Price's head suddenly turns that direction that the umpire is saying something to him, which is out of line for an umpire since the next pitch had happened. Once the next pitch has been thrown, the issue is over and it's time to move on, and it's a dick move to say something then.

How far west?

He is white at least.

(T + W)² = T² + 2TW + W² (TW)² = TWTW TW² = TWW

Yes, but just being drunk isn't getting her suspended for a week.

I would most certainly agree that in some other context, Broussard could have been fired or at least reprimanded for his comments, but ESPN put him on OTL and almost certainly knew what he was going to say so it would be hypocritical to turn around and fire him now. Dana Jacobson got suspended for a week for saying "f*** Jesus" at an ESPN event, so there is precedent.

Well, I will say this: If you intentionally avoid having any relationships with LGBT people because of your religious beliefs, then yes, you will most certainly have some extra bias against them, but then that kind of action would be counter to what Christianity teaches in the first place.

OK, but you are talking about natural forms of bias that come from people being different. Those biases have nothing to do with religious views.

If you join an established denomination with an established hierarchy, then you are submitting that some person or persons in some capacity do have religious authority over you. However, I find it very unlikely that Broussard and Collins are under that kind of arrangement, and even if they are, television is the wrong venue for that discussion.

Well, believing that interracial marriage is a sin and banning it are two different things. In America, Christians have to understand that their religious beliefs do not give them the right to infringe on the rights of others. Believing that interracial marriage is a sin is not infringing on the rights of others--using the state/federal legislature to ban it is. Believing that Jason Collins is sinning is not infringing on his rights. Going on ESPN and saying so is not infringing on his rights (though I think it was not a good thing for a Christian to do). Telling him that he can or can't do something that all other Americans can do is infringing on his rights.

I think in this particular country it is difficult because of the way the rhetoric has gone, but it's certainly possible. I have a couple relatives, a former roommate and several other close friends who are gay and I would like to think none of them feel like I discriminate against them or treat them differently than my straight friends.

I don't buy that holding a religious belief that homosexuality is wrong automatically makes one bigoted. I think a lot of people who do hold that religious belief do also happen to be bigoted, but the two are not one and the same. You can hold the belief that being an unrepentant homosexual will condemn you in the afterlife yet treat them exactly the same as any other people because it's God's job to judge and not ours. Yet at the same time not judging a person is not the same thing as not believing that they are doing something that is wrong. The difference is subtle, which is why I think Christians are best served keeping these discussions within their own churches and not in public.

Within the confines of Christianity, it is perfectly acceptable for a church to discipline one of its own members, so the statement he made in itself isn't necessarily wrong, but television is not the appropriate place for such discipline to be carried out, and without knowing a lot about Broussard he is probably not the appropriate person to do it.

I didn't say that those religious channels haven't been "successful" but look what they've done to the image of Christianity in this country. Long term, that is not a positive thing for Christianity.

I know there are different "versions" of Christianity, but an overwhelming majority of those versions teach that homosexuality is wrong. However, television has been about the worst invention ever for Christianity. It is very difficult to accurately convey the Christian message using that medium. The message of Christianity is intended to be discussed on a personal level using scripture as a guide. It just doesn't work well being discussed on television, or even in person to large audiences. You can speak in general terms about what things are and aren't sins, but when it comes down to discussing the specific sins of an individual or a group and how to deal with your sins, those discussions are meant to happen in person and in private. One problem is that a lot of Christians don't understand this, and the problem is compounded be the fact that communicating the message appropriately through television (or a message board for that matter) is very difficult even for people who do understand it. I don't really like the phrase "Love the sinner, hate the sin" because it is so cliche, but it is a very good reminder that Christians need to treat every person with the same level of dignity and respect regardless of their lifestyle. At the same time, I would like to remind those on the liberal side of things that you are more than welcome to call out Christians who actually discriminate against gays, but as long as there is a religion that has a view that homosexuality is wrong, the first amendment must protect the rights of people to hold that opinion.

Yes, one of the biggest problems with Christianity is the double standard in condemnation of some sins more so than others. Catholics who use birth control aren't told that they aren't Catholic, because being free from sin is not a requirement to be Catholic, but most priests will remind them that their use of birth control is a sin.

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