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Reinsdorf Needed Convincing to Trade with Cubs
Bananarchy replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) The cubs were on the SCORE's sister station in 2015. There was no way they were going to stay there while the SOX stayed on the SCORE. Both Reinsdorf controlled teams are on the same station which no baseball or basketball fan under the age 60 listens to other than for the game. That's not getting booted. JR et al went elsewhere. CBS had a one time opportunity to move the Cubs to the Score and they did. CBS would rather have had both. QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) So we left the most popular sports station for Chicago sports for some no name station that no one cares about, and the mega Cubs instantly jump on the opportunity? Something sounds fishy about that. The Cubs knew a few years back that they would win a title as did most people who followed their rebuild. I just think that was a bad move for the Sox as it takes them a little more out of the public eye. Cubs didn't jump. CBS moved the Cubs to the Score. -
QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 07:58 AM) I agree that I'm nervous about the next stage of the rebuild. I think it was (comparatively) fun to amass the youngsters, & for the front office to absorb the kudos of the fans and media. But when the team will be ~20 games below .500 on Fathers Day next season, will this front office and ownership have the requisite PATIENCE to stay the course? Will they keep the "end in mind," as the losses pile up? Or will they stupidly rush the youngsters through the system instead of patiently allowing each prospect develop at his own pace? So far, this team has been anything BUT patient: 1. Rodon was rushed, & he STILL can't consistently locate his FB. He's basically still in spring training post injury 2. Tim Anderson played all of 55 games in AAA, & was rushed to the contract extension. No brainer. If he's a 2 WAR player, this is a steal of a contract 3. Moncada was brought up, despite his craptacular splits hitting as a righty. I don't particularly care about a rookie's splits from one side. He deserved the call up. 4. Hell, when they just "HAD TO" have James f***ing Shields, had they waited a few days, he probably would have been DFA'ed, instead they stupidly gave away value for him.Not a rebuild gripe So, on balance, I question this team's ability to be patient. And that's the other side of the coin: Does this org have the know-how to develop hitters? Do they have the right people in the right jobs, or is Chris Getz only in his position because he played here? Probably Can they properly interpret their prospect' results, or do they take the Charlotte bandbox results at face value, for example? The White Sox play in a "bandbox", so yeah they can interpret Charlotte performance Can we as fans have faith in this org in developing hitters in their own farm system, when they have utterly failed to do so over the past ~15-20 years? Different guy running the farm system, different GM. This isn't GarPax. There is a clear change in philosophy where Hahn has taken the reins. We will see. But again, I think we'll be entering the "hard part" of the rebuild, which is to WAIT PATIENTLY for the kids to make it here. We won't have Sale/Eaton/Q or any other big chip to trade away. We won't have a high prospect in a trade return to drool over. And we won't have a new international FA to distract us from the crappiness of Ricky's bunting operation. To me, this will be the hard part for the fans, this impatient front office, this impatient ownership, and the stupid cub-centric media. You're really overplaying this patience thing. We don't need that many more prospects to drool over. We have a number of them. As far as the Cub-centric media: they understand the rebuild process because the Cubs have done it. You seem cool enough, but most of what you have said here is kind of meh. There's a difference between being a realist and being chicken little. The sky is not failing, the Sox have a ton of near MLB prospects followed by a ton of top prospects right beneath. This thing is going to go faster than you think.
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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 07:53 AM) I believe they've been quoted as saying future run producer in the lineup. So ideally at the 3 spot (i.e. Cano). In the AL that's a bit more fluid. In the NL, you have the pitcher, so you want your hitter away from the pitcher (3, 4, or 5 believe it or not). However, in the AL you don't quite have to worry about it as much so you can put a guy like Moncada at 2 to get more at bats.
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Too bad, too. We were one or two pieces away in June...
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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 05:08 AM) I'd rather let guys earn spots atop the batting order. IMO, Moncada is fine where he is at right now. Anderson should bat 9th until he starts to hit. Just my opinion. I get what you are saying, but at the same time i would almost think it better to just put guys where you want them. If Rick Hahn envisions Moncada batting second, put him there. This is just such a low pressure situation.
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Anthony Swarzak to Brewers; Sox receive Ryan Cordell
Bananarchy replied to username's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (JPR @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 05:52 PM) Is this iamshack always this annoying or is he overdue for um yeah...great trade by Hahn! "Not a particularly good way to start...." -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) Something that is ridiculous is the media will focus on Hawk's rant after the game instead of Lackey hitting more people than Addison Russell No one cares what that old windbag has to say. The headlines will be "Hawk angry" and they'll move on because no one takes him seriously. -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Moncada is just rough -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) Avi is going to finish below 290 isn't he. Most players play to the back of their baseball card -
The NFL will just pour more money into the heads up program, which tries to focus on concussions, completely missing the point.
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07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) A.J. Pierzynski Game, Set, and Match -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) I think he was referring to Edwards' screaming upon getting out of a jam in the sixth inning of a meaningless game. That '05 team never got excited about anything. Every postgame was a funeral -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Saladino is a utility player. The end. QUOTE (turnin' two @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) Huh? It's a fathom/flavum/flathum/flathom thing -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Tank -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Saladino...Sounds Sicilian -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) It's baseball We don't always agree, but Amen to that -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
1 is enough. -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Little early to drill a guy in the inning. Get 2 out first -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
No warnings yet. Dog crap. -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
And everybody gonna get thrown out now. This is the oddest I have felt about a start in a while. -
There are few situations where bunting is appropriate. None of them exist for a team that is rebuilding.
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07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Rodon can't decide whether or not to strike people out or give up an extra baser. The strikeouts make me feel better than I otherwise would in this situation. -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 02:11 PM) This game is an L. You can turn it off now. Rodon isn't going deep. No way they use Swarzak, so gas cans only in the bullpen. People still watch expecting a win? I watch to see Anderson, Rodon, Moncada progress. -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
Would it kill us to get the pitcher out? -
07/25 GT: Sox @ Cubs game 2, 1:20 PM
Bananarchy replied to LittleHurt05's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 02:01 PM) And at the very least, Rodon would be a pretty big trade chip. So being irrelevant couldn't be further from reality. Took the words out of my mouth. It would take a special person to call a number 3 pick "irrelevant"
